Avery to run fast pace style offense with Nets
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Deron needs to get on the Steve Nash diet. You can't eat what you want and just work it off as you near 30
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HelloBrooklyn wrote:I don't think BK or Avery is trying to emulate the Heat at all. I just think Avery llves versitile type of players which is another reason why he wanted Travis Outlaw. I actually think BK is just looking for another huge trade which is why he resigned Humphries to a Huge contract. As for us going small.. I just think there aren't many good centers in the league nowadays, and the the NBA has been becoming A LOT less physical. So the best way for your team to improve is to acquire high skilled players. If you really think about it that's pretty much what's going on which is why there are a decline on skill level in shooting guard and center position. And there are a rise of pointguards and small forward.
In what way, shape, or form is Travis Outlaw "versatile"?
He can't shoot, dribble, pass, rebound, or anything. In fact, he's the opposite of what I'd consider a versatile player.
They went after Outlaw because they took a chance on a bench player who they foolishly though they could make into a good starter by simply giving him more playing time.
Also, going small doesn't really have to do with a lack of talented centers. We could have chosen able-bodied big men who can fill the paint, box out, and rebound.
We chose to sign a plethora of wing players like Bogans and Childress over other big men. It still doesn't make sense why BK was ok with the roster before signing Blatche. What would we do when Brook gets in foul trouble? Run Evans or Hump at the 5?
Lastly, this growing myth that shooting guards and centers are on the decline because the league is moving away from them is false.
It's actually the opposite. The league is moving away from SGs and Cs because there is severe lack of them now.
We came out of a golden age of big men in the late 80s and the 90s, where there were a bunch of highly skilled PFs and centers, and now they've all retired. When people think of the greatest centers, they usually think Wilt, Russell, KAJ, and then usually people start listing 90s big men. We had so many talented guys during throughout the 90s and early 00s, and now (for whatever reason) they are not showing up.
Trust me, if there were players like Shaq, TD, Hakeem, Ewing, D-Rob, etc. popping up again, every team would want them and it would go back to being a big man league. But now, due to the lack of talented big men, the next best way to win is through the wing players.
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We're #1 in the NBA in pace after our 1 game sample size.
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Trust me, if there were players like Shaq, TD, Hakeem, Ewing, D-Rob, etc. popping up again, every team would want them and it would go back to being a big man league. But now, due to the lack of talented big men, the next best way to win is through the wing players.
I'm sure this is true to an extent, but the game is much faster paced now than it was in the 90s, and perimeter defense is much weaker. It used to be there was no answer to a dominant big but to have one of your own (or to have Jordan)...now if you're guards and wings are good enough, you can make a concerted effort to attack the basket and put the other team's center in foul trouble.
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NyCeEvO wrote:HelloBrooklyn wrote:I don't think BK or Avery is trying to emulate the Heat at all. I just think Avery llves versitile type of players which is another reason why he wanted Travis Outlaw. I actually think BK is just looking for another huge trade which is why he resigned Humphries to a Huge contract. As for us going small.. I just think there aren't many good centers in the league nowadays, and the the NBA has been becoming A LOT less physical. So the best way for your team to improve is to acquire high skilled players. If you really think about it that's pretty much what's going on which is why there are a decline on skill level in shooting guard and center position. And there are a rise of pointguards and small forward.
In what way, shape, or form is Travis Outlaw "versatile"?
He can't shoot, dribble, pass, rebound, or anything. In fact, he's the opposite of what I'd consider a versatile player.
They went after Outlaw because they took a chance on a bench player who they foolishly though they could make into a good starter by simply giving him more playing time.
Also, going small doesn't really have to do with a lack of talented centers. We could have chosen able-bodied big men who can fill the paint, box out, and rebound.
We chose to sign a plethora of wing players like Bogans and Childress over other big men. It still doesn't make sense why BK was ok with the roster before signing Blatche. What would we do when Brook gets in foul trouble? Run Evans or Hump at the 5?
Lastly, this growing myth that shooting guards and centers are on the decline because the league is moving away from them is false.
It's actually the opposite. The league is moving away from SGs and Cs because there is severe lack of them now.
We came out of a golden age of big men in the late 80s and the 90s, where there were a bunch of highly skilled PFs and centers, and now they've all retired. When people think of the greatest centers, they usually think Wilt, Russell, KAJ, and then usually people start listing 90s big men. We had so many talented guys during throughout the 90s and early 00s, and now (for whatever reason) they are not showing up.
Trust me, if there were players like Shaq, TD, Hakeem, Ewing, D-Rob, etc. popping up again, every team would want them and it would go back to being a big man league. But now, due to the lack of talented big men, the next best way to win is through the wing players.
Travis Outlaw prior him being exposed was supposed to be a player that can play both forward positions which he did in the blazers =versatile. He is an athletic wing who had a rare combination of skill to be a pretty good shooter and was clutch at the fourth quarter. He was never gave the chance to let him play full starters minutes. Which lead to us giving him a chance. This was the reason why we sign him at the time. Do you really think they would sign outlaw with such lack of incentives. How dumb do you think our front office are?
The growing myth?? Lol do you understand there are rule changes in the NBA. Have you ever heard of the hand checking rule? if you haven't heard that rule or don't understand it then your right it is a myth.
Anyway the hand checking rule is basically doesn't allow you to place a hand on the ball handler allowing ball handlers to have an easier way to get to the basket. That means that speed becomes a huge advantage in the Nba. Meaning point guard when they are traditionally smaller and faster has the best advantage on scoring. Which is why the league now is so point-guard dominant. When the NBA becomes like this, that means passing becomes a lot more important since it such a point guard dominant league. So meaning small-forwards and power-forwards becomes the more important roles in the Nba. Which is why they moved Kevin Durant in the 3 position after his rookie year, why Pierce is a better fit at the 3, and even VC.
As for the centers do you realize their are rule changes in those position as well like the offensive 3 seconds in the paint or the 5 seconds back to the basket. Making these rule changes causes players to learn a different philosophy in the game. Causing them to be more a talent base like more athletic and becoming an anchor against those pesky point guards. (who has all the advantages nowadays) Yet, the more coaches learn the game the more they understand that the NBA is heading to A LOT more less physical games. So all this plethora of big man who understand the philosophy they were taught becomes a lot less prioritize in teams which is why they are moving power-forwards to centers. Because of the point guard heavy game.
These are the reasons why there aren't the VC, T-Mac, David Robinson type of players. The NBA is becoming the euro-league more and more as the year comes by.

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Outlaw is versatile because he can not only miss wide open jumpshots but wide open layups as well.
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litex wrote:I really, really like what I saw out of Brook--and I'm not convinced that "run run run" is the right philosophy to capitalize on his talents. We have a top 3 center in the East--and Bynum's health is questionable, and Bosh is only a "center" in that he's the tallest starter on a "positionless" offense. Moreover, Deron and Joe Johnson are not bad half-court players by any means.
This team should be preaching defense and running halfcourt sets that really utilize Brook to the upmost.
Agreed. Why run and negate our obvious offensive advantage? I hate it when teams stupidly go against their strengths.
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