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Wizards sign Shaun Livingston 

Post#1 » by pineappleheadindc » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:36 pm

Really, Ernie.

Just stop now.

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Edited to add: Pargo is the cut-ee. Here is the press release: http://www.nba.com/wizards/news/wizards ... livingston
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Post#2 » by Nivek » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:37 pm

They also cut Pargo.

Shoulda just saved time and not signed Pargo in the first place.

Also shoulda kept Mack.

Livingston should be better at helping the Wizards generate moral victories.
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Post#3 » by Nivek » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:38 pm

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Post#4 » by nuposse04 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:40 pm

OH SWEET JESUS

no but really this should help the 2nd unit out. I fully blame 5 losses on Pargo anyways.
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Post#5 » by MJG » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Livingston isn't going to be remotely as good as many people here want him to be, but I'm sure he won't be worse than Pargo, so, progress!
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Re: Wizards sign Shaun Livingston 

Post#6 » by pineappleheadindc » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:41 pm

Hey Kev!

When I think of Ernie Grunfeld making more moves, I'm about as interested in them as I am putting a porcupine in my boxer shorts.

Just sayin'. (TMI?)

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Post#7 » by queridiculo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:44 pm

Still waiting for the press release that mentions Grunfelds dismissal.
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Post#8 » by TheBigThree » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:52 pm

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Post#9 » by FAH1223 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:52 pm

He's better than Pargo, I guess... but why sign Pargo in the first place?

Ernie Grunfeld trying to fix another one of his mistakes!

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Post#10 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:01 pm

Long overdue. Livingston was a solid player when he was here. One of my favorite Wizards players; just a fun guy to root for. Advanced stats suggest his production was mediocre, but if you remove his first few games, his numbers were solid.
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Post#11 » by queridiculo » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:02 pm

.. because we all know Livingston is going to make a hell of a difference coming in at this point.
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Post#12 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:08 pm

Well, yay! Better than Pargo anyway.
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Post#13 » by Halcyon » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:08 pm

YES

just because it's not Pargo.
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Post#14 » by Knighthonor » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:09 pm

yeah not going to change anything.

nobody shooting well lately.

Beal need to flow his shots. I understand he intimidated right now. No pressure, but try. dont give up.
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Post#15 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:10 pm

nuposse04 wrote:OH SWEET JESUS

no but really this should help the 2nd unit out. I fully blame 5 losses on Pargo anyways.


I expect Shaun to move into the starting line up as soon as he learns the system. If SL plays like he did during his first stint here, he will be a huge upgrade over Price.
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Post#17 » by KennyGreen » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:24 pm

Nice signing...at least a legit NBA player who should be in league...Unlike Pargo...
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Post#18 » by LyricalRico » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:29 pm

Definitely a good move. The Pargo signing I think was predicated on him being able to play off the ball as a spot up shooter, preferably next to Wall. But with Price hurt and the offense just not running very well, they needed to bring in more of a true PG.
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Post#19 » by Dat2U » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:32 pm

So does this move get Ernie into the "front office executive of the year" conversation?
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Re: Wizards sign Shaun Livingston 

Post#20 » by LyricalRico » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:36 pm

Dat2U wrote:So does this move get Ernie into the "front office executive of the year" conversation?


Well, let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Do they have "Executive of the Week"?

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