KOTB: Charlotte and Atlanta

[RoyalWun]

Scenario: AS break and Josh Smith isn't willing to sign an extension in Atlanta. Charlotte is one of the first ones to hop on it.

Atlanta trades: Josh Smith + Anthony Tolliver
Charlotte trades: Gerald Henderson + Bismack Biyombo + DeSagana Diop + Portland's Protected Pick

Atlanta:
Jeff Teague / Devin Harris
Gerald Henderson / Lou Williams / Anthony Morrow / John Jenkins
Kyle Korver / DeShawn Stevenson
Bismack Biyombo / Ivan Johnson / Mike Scott
Al Horford / Zaza Pachulia / DeSagana Diop / Johan Petro

Stays a bit young while maintaining the cap flexibility. I think Biyombo + Horford is as good a fit as Smith. Continues with their rebuild.

Charlotte:
Kemba Walker / Ramon Sessions / Cory Higgins
Jeff Taylor / Ben Gordon
MKG / Reggie Williams / Hakim Warrick
Josh Smith / Anthony Tolliver / Tyrus Thomas
Brendon Haywood / BJ Mullens

A good mixture of offense and defense on all positions. Can return to a playoff team. Charlotte isn't a free agent destination to this could help them.

[sonictecture]

No.

I don't think Atlanta does this. Biyombo is the main piece coming back and while he holds a lot of hope for Charlotte he hasn't proven to be a high enough caliber player to be the primary piece for Smith. I believe you've miscalculated how Atlanta intends to build by assuming Atlanta will take quantity and expiring contracts for Smith.

[amcoolio]

Nice premise, but Charlotte says no. Josh Smith will be overpaid for his production and impact on the basketball game. If we were to go Smith's direction, which I doubt, I'd rather just sign him outright if we happen to get Zeller or Noel in the draft. We can amnesty Tyrus and be 25 million below the cap.

[HornetJail]

That is a serious overpay and there's nothing that says Smith would sign an extension here. No thanks.

[SWedd523]

I don't think it's bad value on its face, but I don't think Josh Smith is a good piece for Charlotte going forward. If we're going to consolidate those assets, I'd rather it be for Horford

[Trader_Joe]

No.

It would work with Horford perhaps, but not a free agent like Smith.

[theatlfan]

Yeah, this would be a no from both sides.

From CHAR, it's easy - there is no confidence that they can resign a soon-to-be UFA they just traded for. Even with Jordan and cap room, I don't think there's too many would that would stay.

For ATL, we know that Smoove, like every other soon-to-be UFA, won't sign an extension - it's just the nature of the beast right now. At this point, the entire scenario falls apart.

[eliasrapp98]

Atlanta would have to be drunk not to accept 2 good young prospects on cheap deals and a good pick for Smith. BTW easy NO from me.

[They_Them_Hatin]

No not for smith. He won't resign and will ruin our draft position win we come back to reality.
Now if you really want biyombo we'll take John Jenkins+ top 10 13 1st for. Biyombo straight up.
Atl doesn't have the pieces to trade up for Noel Len Austin or Adams for their likely late lottery pick

[ATL Boy]

No not for smith. He won't resign and will ruin our draft position win we come back to reality.
Now if you really want biyombo we'll take John Jenkins+ top 10 13 1st for. Biyombo straight up.
Atl doesn't have the pieces to trade up for Noel Len Austin or Adams for their likely late lottery pick

I doubt that Atlanta ends up in the lottery, we're playing pretty good now and beat OKC and almost beat Miami, so I doubt that we'll have a top 10 pick to trade and if we do have a top 10 pick I doubt that we give both it and Jenkins for Biyambo. I think we could trade up by giving the pick, and maybe trade Josh Smith and take back a bad contract to a team he's willing to resign for but doesn't have enough cap room.

[doc.end]

I don't know how duping Portlands pick (and udmping it is, for nothing in return) could make sense. On top of it dumping Biyombo as well.