Jeremy Lin got benched tonight in OT

Durant Durant · Post #81 » by **Durant Durant** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:15 am

StyLeD wrote:
kombayn wrote:I won't be surprised if the Rockets trade Jeremy Lin as the move was more of the owners decision that the GM or Coaches.

Hopefully to a team that doesn't use him as the secondary ball-handler and spot-up shooter.

Hope Lakers try. Lin will learn a lot playing behind Nash and be the eventual starter along with Dwight.

Volcano · Post #82 » by **Volcano** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:30 am

I thought Lillard was sucking until the end of the game

ibraheim718 · Post #83 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:30 am

kombayn wrote:I won't be surprised if the Rockets trade Jeremy Lin as the move was more of the owners decision that the GM or Coaches.

This don't make sense.. if bringing Lin was mostly the owners call then if I'm the owner why don't I just move the coaches?

thelastpope · Post #84 » by **thelastpope** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:31 am

Last 11 points by Lilliard.

2FT after Mook fouled him after pick and roll set Lillard free.
3PT on Wing pick and roll. Douglas went over the pick and and could not recover.
2FT on loose ball foul by Lin after Harden lost ball after being knocked to ground by Mathews.
Lay up against Parsons after Lin and Parsons.
Contested jumper against Lin.

No one got torched. Lillard just made some incredible plays
Lin on a switch against 6'9 Batum gets an Offensive fouls against Batum with 2 min left

CU_NY09 · Post #85 » by **CU_NY09** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:38 am

thelastpope wrote:
Last 11 points by Lilliard.

2FT after Mook fouled him after pick and roll set Lillard free.
3PT on Wing pick and roll. Douglas went over the pick and and could not recover.
2FT on loose ball foul by Lin after Harden lost ball after being knocked to ground by Mathews.
Lay up against Parsons after Lin and Parsons.
Contested jumper against Lin.

No one got torched. Lillard just made some incredible plays
Lin on a switch against 6'9 Batum gets an Offensive fouls against Batum with 2 min left

Why do people keep saying that Lilliard scored his last 11 all on Lin then?

sirdeadcat · Post #86 » by **sirdeadcat** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:39 am

biglove44 wrote:[
Why do people keep saying that Lilliard scored his last 11 all on Lin then?

Cause people didn't watch the game and are making stuff up.

That, or they are Kelvin Sampson.

knicksnyk · Post #87 » by **knicksnyk** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:43 am

I just finished watching this game. That Rockets coach are as incompetent as they come.

Current Defensive Statistics from Synergy Sports, including the Portland game...

Points Per Possession Allowed

Jeremy Lin - 0.71 (50th in the NBA of ALL positions)
Toney Douglas - 0.87 (151st in the NBA of ALL positions)

Opponent FG%

Jeremy Lin - 34.4%
Toney Douglas - 42.5%

Opponent 3pt%

Jeremy Lin - 33.3%
Toney Douglas - 37.5%

Overall Opponent %Score

Jeremy Lin - 32.5%
Toney Douglas - 38.2%

The funny thing about numbers is that they never lie.

Zubby · Post #88 » by **Zubby** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:58 am

Read 1st page... no one watched the game...

It was actually Parsons on Lillard a lot/ most of 4th. Douglas did a much better job defending pnr when he got switch on Batum. He actually slowed Batum(who was like Reggie Miller tonight) down.

Either way Portland back-court is underrated and this is the 2nd time they have out played the more praised Houston back-court.

Shem · Post #89 » by **Shem** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:03 am

kombayn wrote:I won't be surprised if the Rockets trade Jeremy Lin as the move was more of the owners decision that the GM or Coaches.

I'd be very surprised because of how back-loaded his contract is. That back-load is the reason why the Knicks didn't match Lin's offer sheet, and I think it will scare teams off with the new luxury tax that is going in effect soon.

Heat fan06 · Post #90 » by **Heat fan06** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:05 am

He has no true role on that team.

Ginger Bean · Post #91 » by **Ginger Bean** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:05 am

Shem wrote:
kombayn wrote:I won't be surprised if the Rockets trade Jeremy Lin as the move was more of the owners decision that the GM or Coaches.

I'd be very surprised because of how back-loaded his contract is. That back-load is the reason why the Knicks didn't match Lin's offer sheet, and I think it will scare teams off with the new luxury tax that is going in effect soon.

It's only 5/5/15 for Knicks. 8.3mil/yr for Houston and everyone else.

Ginger Bean · Post #92 » by **Ginger Bean** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:47 am

Krodis wrote:Toney Douglas is a better shooter than Lin, but otherwise, yeah, pretty bad.

2012/13
Lin .355 FG%, .267 3pt%
Douglas .273 FG%, 250 3p%

2011/12
Lin .446 FG%, .320 3pt%
Douglas .324 FG%, .231 3p%

Another "eye test" on Lin?

phoenixx · Post #93 » by **phoenixx** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:18 pm

Sampson believed Douglas would up the defensive presense, but in exchange, he completely halted the Rockets' offense without Lin.

And in the end, this isn't even about how good of a player Lin is, or how much you like him. The fact is, there is no reason to put in a player like Douglas over Lin.

Aaron Brooks · Post #94 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:29 pm

Kelvin Sampson wrote:(playing Douglas in OT instead of Lin basically a response to what Lillard did down the stretch?)

I just thought it was a little bit better defensive matchup. I thought Jeremy played well and I thought Toney did well. Both our point guards played well tonght.

9abovetherim · Post #95 » by **9abovetherim** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:36 pm

It makes me sick of even thinking Toney Douglas playing at crunch time over anybody. And im not even a Rockets fan, but i wouldnt play him at all, what excatly hes good at? I think Machado is a lot better PG then him and so is Lin, obviously.

deepeeenn · Post #96 » by **deepeeenn** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:31 pm

rz04 wrote:
kombayn wrote:I won't be surprised if the Rockets trade Jeremy Lin as the move was more of the owners decision that the GM or Coaches.

Unless the Rockets are getting a all star level player I doubt it.

I think the owner definitely had something to do with it but the Rockets really needed a PG when they made the offer to Lin. The Rockets was trying to resign Dragic but didn't want to give him a player's option, and already traded Lowry because he didn't get along with the coach. By then the only point guard the Rockets had under contract was Tony Douglas, and the only best point guard available at that point was Lin.

What I can assume, for a partial reason, is the Houston Rocket's still have a huge Chinese Fanbase because of Yao Ming. The move is in some way to maintain marketability to that demographic. It's possible they had some benefits that were coming to a close after Yao had retired and this was a move that could help restore that. Say, corporate sponsorships for one, you look into the Rockets stadium and you can see at least one very apparent Chinese sponsorship right underneath the hoop/padded area for "Peak". Also, the possibility of the allstar game being in Houston can have loads of Chinese voting in Lin into his home teams allstar game which could lead to all sorts of marketing benefits. That's my guess.

Durant Durant · Post #97 » by **Durant Durant** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:15 pm

A lot of haters going full dumbsanity in this thread. Toney is better better offensive ande defensive player?? Numbers dont lie. Torched by Lillard? Ahahaha watch the game for once.

blazinskillz · Post #98 » by **blazinskillz** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:56 pm

The usual fanboys of Lin in here. We get it, he's the best player alive, I mean oh my goodnessssss

sirdeadcat · Post #99 » by **sirdeadcat** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:58 pm

blazinskillz wrote:The usual fanboys of Lin in here. We get it, he's the best player alive, I mean oh my goodnessssss

He may not be the best player alive, but at the very very least, he's better than Tony Douglas in any quantifiable aspect of playing basketball.

No one is claiming that he is GOAT, so go troll somewhere else.

Krodis · Post #100 » by **Krodis** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:02 pm

Ginger Bean wrote:
Krodis wrote:Toney Douglas is a better shooter than Lin, but otherwise, yeah, pretty bad.

2012/13
Lin .355 FG%, .267 3pt%
Douglas .273 FG%, 250 3p%

2011/12
Lin .446 FG%, .320 3pt%
Douglas .324 FG%, .231 3p%

Another "eye test" on Lin?

Douglas shot poorly last year, but his first two season he hit his threes at a good rate. He's at 35% from three on his career, which is respectable and higher than Lin.

... Don't get me wrong, Douglas is pretty terrible. But Lin can't exactly shoot.