ATL Boy wrote:theatlfan wrote:Late lotto and Brooks for Smoove? I'd prefer to chance FA with Smoove.
If come the trade deadline Smoove wants out (which I don't think he will) or if he starts playing games (like Dwight) then I'd take a lotto and Brooks for Josh. If we traded Josh then we'd also have a lotto pick, maybe we get lucky with one of the picks and end up top 3, even if we don't end up with a top 3 pick then we'd have 2 lotto picks with which to rebuild, we'd also have the Houston pick. we could potentially package the Portland pick or our pick for a potential chance at someone like Nerlens Noel
If Smoove starts demanding out, then yes, his value drops. At this point though, we've really given him everything he's wanted and he seems really happy. The fact is that if I'm dealing a happy (or even if he's just not obviously disgruntled) Smoove, then I want an young talent with the chance to make a impact. I couldn't care less about a lot of rotation players and/or late lottos when discussing Smoove. Historically, late lottos have only a slightly larger chance of sticking on an NBA roster than a 2nd round pick; Brooks has 6th MotY upside, but even that is still a rotation player. Those only have real worth if you're willing to undergo a true rebuilding effort and I'm not sure we're willing to do that.
Honestly, I'd rather get nothing for Smoove and ensure the high pick to get the impact talent eventually over pulling off a deal where we get enough to challenge for an 8th seed.
Trader_Joe wrote:MagicFan32 wrote:Josh Smith can't sign in LA as a free agent, he has no leverage, really there's nowhere for him to go this summer
then again the league is rigged so i'm sure the lakers can get him for crap
He has leverage in that he's an unrestricted free agent and Atlanta would have less options this summer wince they can't trade him to a tax paying team. And he could sign with Dallas, NO, Washington, Charlotte, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Utah and potentially other teams depending on what they do before free agency.
Meanwhile Dwight had the same amount of leverage to go to the Lakers and he still got there.
One thing that has to be understood here: an SNT scenario could be our best scenario regardless of whether Smoove wants to stay or not. At that point, there's no question that the signing team would both want him, have him under contract, and at a salary they're comfortable with. Sure, there could be some teams that could be far enough under the cap that they could sign him without pulling a SNT, but that list is much smaller than you make it out to be if you're listing above is any indication. Not all of those teams currently have the cap room to offer a max or near max deal and I couldn't see some of those teams being of interest to Smoove.
As for the D12 comp, I don't see it. ORL's and ATL's situations are just too different - as is Smoove's and D12's since D12 is a definite max guy. I can see why the parallel would be drawn, but I can't see the actual fit.