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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#41 » by fatlever » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:49 am

unless the bobcats are over .500 in late january and kemba is putting up 20+, then kemba has no shot at the all-star game. unless you are part of the espn hype machine, you almost always have to get snubbed once before you get elected to the team.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#42 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:52 am

fatlever wrote:unless the bobcats are over .500 in late january and kemba is putting up 20+, then kemba has no shot at the all-star game. unless you are part of the espn hype machine, you almost always have to get snubbed once before you get elected to the team.


True. Maybe next year :D
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Post#43 » by doc.end » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:23 am

At the very moment we would be 4th if not for Bucks leading the Central division (we have both better conference record and winning series), because of that, we are 5th (got ahead Sixers).
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Post#44 » by PalmTree » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:10 am

Nets lost tonight, so we are now officially in 4th place :-)
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Post#45 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:45 am

PalmTree wrote:Nets lost tonight, so we are now officially in 4th place :-)


Were actually 3rd now according to ESPN after the Nets loss. I went ahead and took a screen shot for future reference when Gilchrist and Taylor hit the rookie wall I can have something positive to look at.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#46 » by doc.end » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:19 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
PalmTree wrote:Nets lost tonight, so we are now officially in 4th place :-)


Were actually 3rd now according to ESPN after the Nets loss. I went ahead and took a screen shot for future reference when Gilchrist and Taylor hit the rookie wall I can have something positive to look at.

ESPN just sucks.

TIEBREAKER BASIS:
(-) Tie breaker not needed (better overall winning percentage)
(1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division
(2) Head-to-head won-lost percentage
(3) Conference won-lost percentage
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#47 » by lmcguir5 » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:04 pm

If the season ended today before any of tonight's games started, this would be the playoff seeding of the east:

1. Knicks
2. Heat
3. Bobcats
4. Bucks
5. Nets
6.Hawks
7. Sixers
8. Celtics

The Pacers are just a game behind the Celtics at this point. This is a long season, so obviously this is just nonsense to analyze, just cool to get a look at some unlikely seedings, makes you think.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#48 » by doc.end » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:08 am

lmcguir5 wrote:If the season ended today before any of tonight's games started, this would be the playoff seeding of the east:

1. Knicks
2. Heat
3. Bobcats
4. Bucks
5. Nets
6.Hawks
7. Sixers
8. Celtics

The Pacers are just a game behind the Celtics at this point. This is a long season, so obviously this is just nonsense to analyze, just cool to get a look at some unlikely seedings, makes you think.

Again. That is not correct.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#49 » by lmcguir5 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:01 am

doc.end wrote:
lmcguir5 wrote:If the season ended today before any of tonight's games started, this would be the playoff seeding of the east:

1. Knicks
2. Heat
3. Bobcats
4. Bucks
5. Nets
6.Hawks
7. Sixers
8. Celtics

The Pacers are just a game behind the Celtics at this point. This is a long season, so obviously this is just nonsense to analyze, just cool to get a look at some unlikely seedings, makes you think.

Again. That is not correct.


ESPN is not correct then?
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#50 » by doc.end » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:13 am

Apparently. The tiebreakers I copied straight from nba.com. You can get ahead of divison winner but only with a better record according to that. Notice that NBA.com has Bucks ahead of us.
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Post#51 » by doc.end » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:36 pm

Still in it - 8th spot.

Regarding ESPN sucking - look at their western conference standings. Somehow they have Spurs fifth with .800%, ranked lower than BOTH Warriors and Clippers. I guess that' enough to tell you can't rely in their standings.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#52 » by Kembastockton » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:44 pm

doc.end wrote:Still in it - 8th spot.

Regarding ESPN sucking - look at their western conference standings. Somehow they have Spurs fifth with .800%, ranked lower than BOTH Warriors and Clippers. I guess that' enough to tell you can't rely in their standings.


This team still doesn't have a super star. We don't want to make the playoffs just yet. Let's miss out on Wiggins and Parker before we give up and return to mediorcrity on purpose.
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Post#53 » by doc.end » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:04 pm

Well, we can make an argument that by giving up the pick owed to Chicago this year - thus not getting any help through draft - we strenghten our chances on Wiggins. Simply, I don't see enouch of a chance of landing someone significant this year to make me root against us. There are to many bad teams this year and we can't ourttank them all (and even if we do then that means nothing other then top4 pick). To me, last season was a unique effort to clear house in shortened season when ut was more bearable and know it is about building team frim ashes gathering more building blocks as much as we can get them without sacrifing anything. There can be 5 worse teams in our conference only this yeat and then it is hard to keep our draft chances high (I mean Orlando, Cleveland, Toronto, Washington, Detroit - one or two of them may get better record but that's it; then you have bad or tanking teams in western conference as well -> mid lotto pick at best).
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Post#54 » by Kembastockton » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:16 pm

doc.end wrote:Well, we can make an argument that by giving up the pick owed to Chicago this year - thus not getting any help through draft - we strenghten our chances on Wiggins. Simply, I don't see enouch of a chance of landing someone significant this year to make me root against us. There are to many bad teams this year and we can't ourttank them all (and even if we do then that means nothing other then top4 pick). To me, last season was a unique effort to clear house in shortened season when ut was more bearable and know it is about building team frim ashes gathering more building blocks as much as we can get them without sacrifing anything. There can be 5 worse teams in our conference only this yeat and then it is hard to keep our draft chances high (I mean Orlando, Cleveland, Toronto, Washington, Detroit - one or two of them may get better record but that's it; then you have bad or tanking teams in western conference as well -> mid lotto pick at best).


What you are saying just improves our odds for next year, because the teams that pick ahead of us this year should improve more than us for the 14 Draft. All of those teams are better than we are on paper anyway. Add Shabazz to Cleveland or Detroit. Put a low post scorer like Zeller in Orlando. These teams can leave us in the dust very quickly.
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Re: Play offs watch 

Post#55 » by doc.end » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:45 pm

And? I think we are in agreement. (although I am not that high on HS top prospect being all automatically impactful after their college freshman year in NBA as rookies).
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Post#56 » by doc.end » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:46 pm

Pistons fans feeling strong viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1216315 :D
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Post#57 » by catch20two » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:33 pm

doc.end wrote:Pistons fans feeling strong viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1216315 :D

Aren't they like 4-11? :lol:

I'll give it to them though. They have been playing a little bit more inspired ball now that Stuckey is in his rightful role, backup guard.
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