2013 NBA draft prospects chatter

James Gatz · Post #121 » by **James Gatz** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:13 am

Honestly, Detroit isn't that bad off. A lotto pick this year get's them a good scorer, and if they can sign some veteran depth, they're an OK team. Maybe we see that pick in 2014?

We'll see what happens. Either way I think we'll still get a top 7 pick, right? There will be good players available. I know we're trying to tank but I love watching us get wins.

thruthefire · Post #122 » by **thruthefire** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:19 am

The Pistons need to start winning some games.

lmcguir5 · Post #123 » by **lmcguir5** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:20 am

thruthefire wrote:The Pistons need to start winning some games.

Kembastockton · Post #124 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:25 am

James Gatz wrote:
Honestly, Detroit isn't that bad off. A lotto pick this year get's them a good scorer, and if they can sign some veteran depth, they're an OK team. Maybe we see that pick in 2014?

We'll see what happens. Either way I think we'll still get a top 7 pick, right? There will be good players available. I know we're trying to tank but I love watching us get wins.

Bobcats receive the Blazers' 2013 first-round pick (top 12 protected in the 2013, 2014, and 2015, and unprotected in 2016

Bobcats receive the Pistons' 2013 first-round pick (top 14 protected in the 2013 draft, top 8 in 2014, top 1 in 2015, and unprotected in 2016

I am hoping that the Blazers can put together a decent season, and then the Pistons next year.

doc.end · Post #125 » by **doc.end** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:24 am

lmcguir5 wrote:Honestly, Detroit isn't that bad off. A lotto pick this year get's them a good scorer, and if they can sign some veteran depth, they're an OK team. Maybe we see that pick in 2014?

Well, first Dumars has to draft well. They picked some nice young pieces (although not great as their board suggest) fairly late for their value but that's more on team that passed on them then Pistons picking (it is the same guy that drafted Darko after all). Then they have to make it work, hire a good coach, have a system, fitting players. I still expect them to have a mess rather then culture. And even if they do all that, they have to actually start winning and do that better than other not so good eastern teams. Considering how Dumars can waste capspace they would have I have little worries about them getting good. But even if they do, late lottery can still get into top 3 and even if we get a pick outside of top 10 it was worth a try as there were a solid chance of them being bad long enough when the trade was made. No value lost this way, only potential one.

Post #126 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:42 am

doc.end wrote:Well, first Dumars has to draft well. They picked some nice young pieces (although not great as their board suggest) fairly late for their value but that's more on team that passed on them then Pistons picking (it is the same guy that drafted Darko after all).

You can't fault him for the Darko pick, everyone was raving about him and almost everyone agreed it was a good pick at the time.

freakon0mics · Post #127 » by **freakon0mics** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:49 am

Dumars draft history has been shaky at best. Other than Monroe, I can't remember anyone else that he drafted that would be good starters in the league. Both Knight and Stuckey would be good 6th men for any other team in the league. His best bet to turning this team into a contender is packaging these young guys with draft picks and big contracts for a disgruntled star player somewhere.

Post #128 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:52 am

we were planning on taking either Kemba or Knight, whichever was available, we easily could have ended up with him

catch20two · Post #129 » by **catch20two** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:58 am

The Pistons will be in the lottery as long as they have Stuckey on their team. I'm not worried about them getting better or even attempting to make a playoff run until about 2016

Eoghan · Post #130 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:08 pm

Zeller is starting to frustrate me. He doesn't play like a center at all. He plays like a softer Pau Gasol. All finesse, goes to the rim weak despite the musculature.

Steven Adams is super raw. Dare I say Bismack raw.

Otto Porter is nice, he's somebody to keep an eye on. He could crack top 5 I think.

mrknowitall215 · Post #131 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:07 pm

This upcoming 2013 NBA Draft will be weak. There won't be anybody worth drafting, as in potential all-star material, in the lottery except Shabazz Muhammad who I believe will easily become the consensus #1 overall pick.

mrknowitall215 · Post #132 » by **mrknowitall215** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:01 pm

I'm really liking Aaric Murray's game more & more every time I see him play. I predict him being a very serviceable big in the league a la Taj Gibson. My worst case scenario for him with playing time is maybe Marreese Speights. He's a sleeper that I believe can be that good. If his draft stock doesn't magically rise out of nowhere, the 'Cats need to find a way to get ahold of a 2nd rounder where he should be available

They_Them_Hatin · Post #133 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:54 pm

I think we win enough games not to be the worst in full season history then tank badly like the gsw didast year for a top pick.

They_Them_Hatin · Post #134 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:00 pm

I want to know more about Noel's strength plan. If he learns how to play defense better and gain strength he can be a good center eventually.

lmcguir5 · Post #135 » by **lmcguir5** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:35 am

It's too early to do too much speculation, there's a darkhorse candidate out there who is most likely going to shoot up into top 5 pick conversations. We don't even know if Otto Porter is going to be a star or if he's just playing well through the season's early competition. We all know that the NCAA Tournament is always a proving ground where guys have lost and gained in the draft board order. Let's revisit this same conversation about Otto Porter/Bazz in the middle of conference play and see if you feel the same way.

mrknowitall215 · Post #136 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:44 am

Being that Shabazz Muhammad seem to be falling off the 'Cats radar with the surprising victories of late, I don't think Adonis Thomas would make for a bad consolation prize. Thomas would make for a much better fit for than the previously awe mentioned Otto Porter. I know a lot of sites may have Thomas labeled as a SF, but if you ever watched him play, he's a SG in a big body

They_Them_Hatin · Post #137 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:17 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Being that Shabazz Muhammad seem to be falling off the 'Cats radar with the surprising victories of late, I don't think Adonis Thomas would make for a bad consolation prize. Thomas would make for a much better fit for than the previously awe mentioned Otto Porter. I know a lot of sites may have Thomas labeled as a SF, but if you ever watched him play, he's a SG in a big body

Isn't he 6'6 or do you mean strength/weight?

mrknowitall215 · Post #138 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:01 pm

ntsap wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Being that Shabazz Muhammad seem to be falling off the 'Cats radar with the surprising victories of late, I don't think Adonis Thomas would make for a bad consolation prize. Thomas would make for a much better fit for than the previously awe mentioned Otto Porter. I know a lot of sites may have Thomas labeled as a SF, but if you ever watched him play, he's a SG in a big body

Isn't he 6'6 or do you mean strength/weight?

He's listed as 6'7" and weigh around 240lbs. That's pretty big for a SG.

Kembastockton · Post #139 » by **Kembastockton** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:49 pm

ntsap wrote:I think we win enough games not to be the worst in full season history then tank badly like the gsw didast year for a top pick.

I don't think tanking is even the issue. We tanked when we traded Gerald, Nazi, and Stephen for young players and picks. There is no on going tank operation. At this point we want our young players to perform as well as they can to gain confidence and experience. The reason why we will still be in the lottery this year is because as great as the kids are playing they will still loose when they have to play the heavy weight teams. They are looking great, but they are still not a good team just yet.

Marcus Smart seems to be burning up the nbadraft.net charts. He was listed in the teens pre season. Currently he is at number six. Anyone familiar with him?

Being that Shabazz Muhammad seem to be falling off the 'Cats radar with the surprising victories of late, I don't think Adonis Thomas would make for a bad consolation prize. Thomas would make for a much better fit for than the previously awe mentioned Otto Porter. I know a lot of sites may have Thomas labeled as a SF, but if you ever watched him play, he's a SG in a big body

We might be playing well, but we still could win the lottery. As far as Adonis Thomas is concerned time will tell right now I haven't seen him ranked higher than 18 in any of the mocks.

SWedd523 · Post #140 » by **SWedd523** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:03 pm

Huge fan of Adonis Thomas. Never got much burn last year and had some injury problems which hurt him but he can be a really good player.

Marcus Smart is a great player too, one of those guys who always has a positive influence on his team. Not an overbearing talent in any one area but great nonetheless--sort of like MKG in a way.

Guys need to watch this K St and Michigan game on right now, if we stay in the latter half of the let then well be looking at my boy Tim Hardaway Jr. Glenn Robinson III might also work his way into that range. Same for MacGruder