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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#681 » by djFan71 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:54 am

I'm pretty sure Doc called them soft last year as well and kg didn't care for it any, but they started playing better. Or it was the year before. Either way, it's happened before. I agree with bertrob that, sadly, rondo is our only enforcer.

I still think once people get the D down better, avery gets back, etc,it all starts falling into place. Being in position on D equals giving up less easy buckets, more rebounds, more transition baskets, etc. Definitely some growing pains now, tho. If the new guys never get it, we're screwed, but I think they will.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#682 » by FingerRoll » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:This is like the devil's game. Rondo streak done, Rondo ejected, Rondo suspended, Pierce 1-7 on FT's, 0 3 pt shots made, Green with a knee injury and we get stomped by Brooklyn at home. **** me.


Well said, well said.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#683 » by greenbeans » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:29 am

Jerseyless Rondo versus the post-Jersey Nets:

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As it was all going down. Or, more like, a moment after it all went down, when I figured out I should take a pic(zoom in and try counting how many people are flipping the bird):

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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#684 » by PierceFan4ever » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:37 am

Humphries twitter:

Anyone know where I can quick get a Tetnis shot in Boston?
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/265000792
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#685 » by RondoToKG » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:47 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_lYRmvVDz0[/youtube]

Watch this if you want to laugh at a stupid Nets fan. He calls KG's hard fall a flop. :lol:
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#686 » by RondoToKG » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:48 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:Humphries twitter:

Anyone know where I can quick get a Tetnis shot in Boston?
http://pics.lockerz.com/s/265000792


LOL He has a couple scratches... I bet he cried and had his mom put a bandaid on it.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#687 » by Bertrob » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:53 am

Nets fans are so whiny
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#688 » by FingerRoll » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:58 am

jirrit wrote:
chakdaddy wrote:I think it's a shame that Darko wasn't around for this. He might have ended his career in style, literally murdering someone as he previously foreshadowed.


:lol:


Darko definitely wouldve added another dynamic to the whole fight. He seems like he's got alotta bottled up anger since beginnign his NBA career, I hate to be at the wrong end of that when he finally releases it on someone.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#689 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:30 am

Horrible and embarrassing. Of course that this is the 4th or 5th horrible and embarrassing loss this team has this year. I don't even know what to think of this team right now. I am starting to think it was a mistake keeping KG and PP as the cornerstones of this team. You can throw any stats you want at me about PP but I know what I see when he plays. He is still a good player but he is starting to become a shell of himself. Here is a mind numbing stat for you: He is shooting .431 from three point land and .428 for two point shots. His shooting from anywhere beside the three point line is atrocious.

Of course he is not the only problem. The bench is horribly inconsistent every night. We have no idea if Barbosa is going to score 20 points or 2 points. The bigs are not great either. We had freaking Collins in the game. He is one of the worst players in the NBA right now. Green is simply an awful NBA player. He good for one game every 5 games where he teases you into thinking he will be good. Then after that he turns into the invisible man. Go right down the list. Every player beside Terry have not worked out.

It is a forgone conclusion that team is going to get badly out rebounded almost every night so I don't have to go into that. The other main issues are that the defense and offense are inconsistent every single night. Doc was 100% right when he said this team is soft.

I have no idea if the team is going to gel or not. Just because they started off poor last year does not mean they can turn it on all of a sudden. They do have a bunch of new players and that take time. People though (myself included) that this team would be playing much better. Hopefully this team gets better.

Like the great Bill Parcells used to say. You are what your record says you are. This is an average team and their 8-7 record reflects that.


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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#690 » by 702Celtics » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:38 am

bertrob wrote:Nets fans are so whiny


:lol:

Don't say anything about their commentator Ian Eagle, I think they were crying when I said he was an annoying dweeb.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#691 » by StojkoVrankovic » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:19 am

I listened to postgame from Doc/KG and they both seemed to mention that the new guys are clueless. They think that simply putting the Celtic jersey on makes them "Celtics" and that they need to bring it every night. The urgency it not there with the new guys
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#692 » by pp34thetruth_ » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:00 am

boy.....rondo shoving was completely useless....
i've been playing basketball for 15+ years and the contact between humpries and garnett was nothing too serious IMO.
it was just a hard foul rondo just overreacted .
rondo SHOULD be the face of the franchise, but he still lacks a lot of maturity....really disappointed
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#693 » by Quiet-Dude » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:02 am

^^ wow thats unbelievable... i think that was a message for Green-Wicox-barbosa- who knows? maybe lee too. Bass has been more aggressive than ever running the floor, battling on the glass and going for the rebs, and really trying... Green its the guy that we need to play like that! but the guy looks so out of it. :-?
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#694 » by pp34thetruth_ » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:09 am

why was humpries ejected?he was simply trying to protect himself...
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#695 » by exculpatory » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:29 am

[quote="The_Ghost_of_JB]

You can throw any stats you want at me about PP, but I know what I see when he plays. He is still a good player, but he is starting to become a shell of himself. Here is a mind numbing stat for you: He is shooting .431 from three point land and .428 for two point shots. His shooting from anywhere beside the three point line is atrocious.

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Interpret the stats you quoted correctly, Joey sweetheart. Provide context.

14 games in:

1. He was shooting 43.1% from 3 which is OUTSTANDING by anyone's standard.

2. Overall, he was shooting 42.8%. That number is 2.2% below the EXCELLENT & EFFICIENT 45-50% he has shot overall during the last 5 years. And that number was a terrible 35-40% 6-7 games ago because he got off to a very poor start with 2 point shooting. In other words, he has been shooting dramatically better from EVERYWHERE during the last 6-7 games (until last night). That is called a very POSITIVE TREND UPWARDS, Joey. And his PER of 20 after 14 games was excellent.

That is not a "mind-numbing" comparison. That is OUTSTANDING 3 point shooting & that is suboptimal 2 point shooting which WAS RAPIDLY RISING (not counting last night's disaster).

He is STILL an excellent (not good) player who, more than likely, will be an All Star again this year. He is far far far from becoming a "shell of himself."

Oh gosh, I forgot. He was won 3 of our first 8 VCs (& easily could have won 2 more). AND he hit the clutch, game-icing 3 in OT VS the Wiz in DC & VS the Magic in Orlando 3 days ago.

I WILL grant you that, at age 35, he can only be vintage Truth in stretches & explosive quarters/halves. Sadly, he HAS slowed down a bit. Even I must accept this. That is why the failure of Jeff to provide us with high quality back-up minutes so far has hurt us very much.

I agree with you that the team has been very inconsistent, has a mediocre record, & we have significant defensive & rebounding problems. However, I will not stop believing that we can work things out in time & become a very good team by the ASG & an even better team by the playoffs. AB will help us immensely, & Danny will make a trade for Gortat, Andy, Big Al - only PP, KG, RR, & AB are not available to trade.

Joey, call it like you see it, but keep the faith, goddamit. And NEVER EVER EVER underestimate Paul Pierce. He has plenty left to give us during this season & next!







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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#696 » by Roddy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:10 am

exculpatory wrote:
He is STILL an excellent (not good) player who, more than likely, will be an All Star again this year. He is far far far from becoming a "shell of himself."


Ok we get it, you really like PP. But all star ? No way.

He is a good player right now, but he has lot a step or two.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#697 » by exculpatory » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:39 am

Roddy wrote:
exculpatory wrote:
He is STILL an excellent (not good) player who, more than likely, will be an All Star again this year. He is far far far from becoming a "shell of himself."


Ok we get it, you really like PP. But All Star? No way.

He is a good player right now, but he has lost a step or two.


I really do not care what you "get".

If you can look carefully at 1) the numbers I posted above (as well as >20 ppg in 9 out of 15 games); & 2) the numbers I posted in the Orlando VC thread, & then post what you just did, then SMFH.

Based on those numbers, and the numbers you will see in a few weeks, he sure as **** is STILL an All Star AT LEAST.

It is despicable that Paul has been underestimated & underrated for his entire brilliant HOF career. He has always come through & figuratively flipped off everyone who has doubted him at every single stage of his career.

Watch and see, oh basketball guru.



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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#698 » by bceltic55 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:05 pm

Rondo was trying to light a fire last night. He sacrificed the assist record for the team.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#699 » by Geech » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:25 pm

Didn't the whole thing go down as follows? Wallace flopped down one end claiming he was hit in the face by Rondo on a steal. Rondo was then hit in the face by Humphries on the next possession and went to the floor. Two possessions later, Humphries pushed Garnett over after the original foul and as he was up in the air on a possible continuation. This wasn't only about one single play. The refs allowed a pretty chippy game with the Nets getting all the free throws. I know I'm a homer and may have seen it differently than others, but I only see this reported as an overreaction to a single foul.
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Re: Boston vs Brooklyn 7:30 PM ET Nov 28 

Post#700 » by WhateverBro » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:07 pm

Doc Rivers lost Boston the game when he insisted on playing Collins and Garnett together with the bench. We was down with ~8 at that point and Garnett got the ball everytime and they just doubled him and left Collins open. I'm glad he has realized Collins need to play but you don't pair him with your other rim protector. You need to space the floor when Garnett is your first option on the floor, otherwise they'll just swarm him and leave players open.

I was so disappointed when it Doc several minutes for Doc to realize his mistake.

Paul Pierce was disappointing too, boy does he look terrible out there. Falling on his knees on a shake and bake from JJ.

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