Ray has been playing better than Wade

[insfo]

how is this dude still posting here?

[GameTime_3]

Guys.....Ray is playing better this year than WADE. For those complaining about Ray on D, have you not watched D-Wade? He rarely gets past half court on D. As HEAT fans we have to make excuses for Wade but the fact of the matter is; D-Wade looks terrible.

[Ratchet_Rio]

I'm not sure 18 ppg is what Arison had in mind when Wade signed that 100+ million dollar contract

[bball34]

3rd game winner this season

[DieHardBallFan]

Hate to up this thread as well but tonight game... common guys... Ignore the original posters posts. Obviously trolling.

But take my posts / legit posters comments and think about it.

Allen is far from a better player then Wade. But Wade is not living up to A) His contract, B ) What we need from him to be a championship team C) His own standards.

Bottom line, if you take the thread TITLE. It is correct.

[GameTime_3]

I just reviewed Ray Allen's birth certificate....and it states! Born at the 3pt line and time of birth says "In the clutch".

[EscapoTHB]

I miss dwade being dwade. Maybe a benching would do him good. Though he'd probably just demand a trade which would screw up team chemistry.

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[MMyhre]

Bench Wade!!! Just for the lulz, wont happen but god it would have been funny. All I hear from his interviews is like, oooh I just gave LeBron the torch and blabla, and that means u have to play like **** compared to what you did before? I see, good logic there.

[Run DLC]

You know a player is lazy when 17th season vets like Kobe and Allen are still in better shape than him. Don't give me the excuse about him coming off a knee surgery because Ray and Kobe have dealt with similar off-season surgeries before and they still came in great shape and ready to play. Wade is still more athletic and explosive than both of them, but he's already declining at a much faster pace compared to those two at a similar age range of 30 years old. He need to spend more time in the gym to work harder on his flat jumpshot and ask the coach to play him more in the post.

[DWadeno3]

Bench Wade!!! Just for the lulz, wont happen but god it would have been funny. All I hear from his interviews is like, oooh I just gave LeBron the torch and blabla, and that means u have to play like **** compared to what you did before? I see, good logic there.

It would be funny? What kinda Heat fan are you?!? It'd be concerning if Spoelstra had to take such drastic measures, but not funny. It'd be funny to the rest of the basketball world, seeing as they hate us and wish bad on us, but to a Heat fan, this shouldn't be funny. You're as much of a joke as a fan as Wade is as a player right now.

[kyphi]

This is the first summer Wade has taken off - right? He didn't work on his game like usual, I bet. I fully expect him to work on other aspects of his game such as mid-range jump shots and three pointers. If he becomes proficient in those areas, then every now and then he will be able to sneak in for a dunk. All good players adapt as they age, and Wade likes winning. He will adapt.

[Chessboxer]

There is a recent article in SLAM about D Wade. He is actually on the cover and he addresses some of the discussions about his alleged decline and his current role on the Heat.

f only people understood.

“I know everyone has an opinion and everyone has a right to exercise that opinion,” Wade told me at a late-October photoshoot. “It just sucks that people don’t really understand the reasoning why. When we got together the first year, I averaged 25, LeBron averaged 26 and it doesn’t work. Everybody was talking about, ‘Well, they have to find a way to make it work.’ Then when we find a way to make it work, and everyone talks about this and that. They don’t really understand.”

“He had the humility to take a step back to allow LeBron James to become the greatest player in the world,” says David Fizdale, an on-the-rise assistant coach with the Heat. “If he would have kept competing at the level he was competing at to show who he was, LeBron would have never developed to that. That’s the reality of it.”

“It’s all evolution; it’s all growth,” says Wade. “When I was young there’s no way I could’ve played with these guys. I was in competition with Bron and Melo (Anthony) and those guys. You get to a point where that doesn’t matter the same. We all competitors, but that same ‘I’ve got to make a name for myself thing’ goes away after a while. You understand there’s a bigger picture.”

http://www.slamonline.com/online/the-magazine/toc/2012/11/slam-magazine-164-on-sale-dwyane-wade-heat/

My take on Wade's play is that its a combination of his role on the team, nagging injuries, and an inability to work on his game over the summer due to those said injuries. I'm sure many on the board were saying in preseason "He's back!!", "He hasn't lost a step!!" in fact there was even a thread on it. Then he got injured yet again.

So athletically speaking, while he not be 08'-09' Wade, I still think he is about 80-90% of '10-'11 Wade or maybe even the same. That being said however I am still on the fence about his decline. The ultimate question is, are the injuries a sign of his decline? He hasn't been fully healthy in almost a year, and that is my concern moving forward. The irony in all this is that the presumption in the big 3 era was that he would preserve his body and get injured less.

Team/role wise he has to work off the ball more which is why needs a better jumpshot. Should he have a better jumper at this point in his career? Sure. I won't criticize him too much though. His intention was to improve his jumper over the summer but you simply cannot launch 1000 jumpers a day coming off knee surgery.

Also I really would like Spolestra when Wade is struggling to at least give him some touches from the top of the circle (Wade's best point of attack) to get him going. Yes, we all know that is Lebrons' job now, but I think its important to at least do it for stretches to at least get Wade going. Lebron can assume post position since hes much improved in that area.

[RexBoyWonder]

My take on Wade's play is that its a combination of his role on the team, nagging injuries, and an inability to work on his game over the summer due to those said injuries.

Naild it.

Team/role wise he has to work off the ball more which is why needs a better jumpshot.

Exactly. The shots are there for him, and he's making some..but he's inconsistant and im sure he'll work on that part of his game at the first chance he gets. MJ is the prototype of this kind of a evolution, they both started out with very similar skillsets, MJ became a superb mid range shooter, and Wade should follow him.


Im Not really worried about Wade like some are, but i am pissed when he's coasting to the extreme on defense. im not expecting him to play D on a 100% effort during the regular season, but he's really pushing it with his 20% effort. he should really just try harder, it won't kill him to give 70% when Ray can back him if he gets tired. it sets a bad example and tone when he's so blunt about not trying.

Great overall post and analysis Chessboxer, you should post more often.

[DWadeno3]

The only aspect Chessboxer has missed is his post-game. While injured last season, that was the area where I trusted him the most because it doesn't require a lot of lift, just good footwork, a good touch around the basket and craftiness. I remember somebody pointed out how he was even more efficient than Dwight Howard in post-ups. So far in this season, you rarely see him establish position down there and go to work. That is gonna be one of his main points to score from going forward.

Additionally, he finally needs to stop the "I wasn't born to be a three-point shooter"-crap and establish consistency from downtown. His basic mechanics are actually not bad and if Corey Brewer can be a solid shooter, so can D-Wade.

And he needs to stop piggybacking LeBron. All this "he's allowing LeBron to be great"-talk is cool, but it's starting to sound more and more like an excuse for D-Wade than help for LeBron. CB and Rio have stepped their games up and it hasn't bothered LeBron one bit. To me, that's just a poor excuse to not be aggressive at least for around 75-80% of the game. With that being said, the coaching staff needs to get on him for that. I have a feeling if Spo isn't gonna do it, then Riley might. It wouldn't be the first time he calls Dwyane out and in my opinion, he needs a hard kick in the ass. It's disgusting to watch him play these days, especially given the talent he still has.

[Slot Machine]

The only aspect Chessboxer has missed is his post-game. While injured last season, that was the area where I trusted him the most because it doesn't require a lot of lift, just good footwork, a good touch around the basket and craftiness. I remember somebody pointed out how he was even more efficient than Dwight Howard in post-ups. So far in this season, you rarely see him establish position down there and go to work. That is gonna be one of his main points to score from going forward.

Additionally, he finally needs to stop the "I wasn't born to be a three-point shooter"-crap and establish consistency from downtown. His basic mechanics are actually not bad and if Corey Brewer can be a solid shooter, so can D-Wade.

And he needs to stop piggybacking LeBron. All this "he's allowing LeBron to be great"-talk is cool, but it's starting to sound more and more like an excuse for D-Wade than help for LeBron. CB and Rio have stepped their games up and it hasn't bothered LeBron one bit. To me, that's just a poor excuse to not be aggressive at least for around 75-80% of the game. With that being said, the coaching staff needs to get on him for that. I have a feeling if Spo isn't gonna do it, then Riley might. It wouldn't be the first time he calls Dwyane out and in my opinion, he needs a hard kick in the ass. It's disgusting to watch him play these days, especially given the talent he still has.

Really? I thought he's done a great job of getting position deep in the post. The problem, in my eyes, is him simply missing shots in the post he'd normally make.

Agree with the rest.

[Flash4thewin]

People are forgetting the green font. Granted who wouldnt love Wade to play better or at least with more of a passion but this team is built for the playoff. We shouldnt judge Wade until the playoffs since the regular season means nothing to the team.