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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1301 » by thelead » Sat Dec 1, 2012 9:22 pm

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thelead wrote:I would rather let JJ walk. That is a weak offer.

Really i think we might be able to get them to add a first round pick but i really like Wroten think he is vastly underated and can fit well with our plans


They currently have the best record so that pick is going to be garbage anyway. I still think we could do better. For instance, if Chicago thinks Rose can come back and they can squeeze into the playoffs I could see them giving up their mid-round #1 and Teague for JJ at the deadline.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1302 » by MagicFan32 » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:03 pm

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Why did we trade for all of those players again? Vuc is soft, Afflalo is average, Al is injured for half of the year, Moe needs years of development to become average and the draft picks are garbage. At least Hennigan can say that we'll be able to build through the draft. I still can't believe Hennigan said that Moe was "the guy" he targeted.

Jameer was also resigned to a bad contract and he's missed more than half the games played so far. It's not like he didn't have a history of being injured. JJ is probably the most entertaining magician and he will most likely be dealt unless Hennigan plans on overpaying him to stick around.

There is not one player on this team worth following. Worst of all, the draft looks weak as hell and we'll have endure 2 seasons of this crap minimum.

Sorry for the rant. Even though I expected this winning percentage I am very disappointed that none of Hennigan's pickups are exciting to watch. If we're going to suck, which we do, at least be entertaining. I broke my promise and paid to see a "game" last night and could not even say that I'm proud of the product.

The point of the trade was to bottom out, not be mediocre, which most of you want/wanted by the way :roll:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1303 » by MagicFan32 » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:06 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:In this espn insider "Trades ideas for contenders" he put this
Memphis Grizzlies acquire: J.J. Redick
Orlando Magic acquire: Tony Wroten, Jerryd Bayless, Hamed Haddadi
I know alot of us wanted more for JJ but i think this is wat we can expect i know alot of people like me really like Wroten and his prospects i think he fits really well another project player just like Vuc and Harkless. Wat u guys think?

I don't see the Grizz trading Bayless, he's playing pretty well for them
Any trade for JJ needs a first round pick coming back to us imo
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Post#1304 » by thelead » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:17 pm

MagicFan32 wrote:The point of the trade was to bottom out, not be mediocre, which most of you want/wanted by the way :roll:


You know I wanted to bottom out. I just wanted ONE player to look forward to watching. We have no one to be excited about right now. Again, I'm just venting and I knew we were going to be hovering around a 33% winning percentage. Maybe we can trade for one by giving up a vet later this year.
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Post#1305 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:24 pm

thelead wrote:I would rather let JJ walk. That is a weak offer.


Seriously, those are some scrubby guys even for our standards
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1306 » by MagicFan32 » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:25 pm

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MagicFan32 wrote:The point of the trade was to bottom out, not be mediocre, which most of you want/wanted by the way :roll:


You know I wanted to bottom out. I just wanted ONE player to look forward to watching. We have no one to be excited about right now. Again, I'm just venting and I knew we were going to be hovering around a 33% winning percentage. Maybe we can trade for one by giving up a vet later this year.

well the cavaliers had to have a horrible first season without lebron they didn't have anyone worth watching but then they got kyrie
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1307 » by BelgianMagic » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:28 pm

slightly OT. We play the Lakers tomorrow, if anyone wants to make the GT, go ahead. I won't have enough time to make one ..
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Post#1308 » by thelead » Sat Dec 1, 2012 11:50 pm

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MagicFan32 wrote:The point of the trade was to bottom out, not be mediocre, which most of you want/wanted by the way :roll:


You know I wanted to bottom out. I just wanted ONE player to look forward to watching. We have no one to be excited about right now. Again, I'm just venting and I knew we were going to be hovering around a 33% winning percentage. Maybe we can trade for one by giving up a vet later this year.

well the cavaliers had to have a horrible first season without lebron they didn't have anyone worth watching but then they got kyrie


I agree with you. At the same time though, we did supposedly get a lot more value out of Dwight than Cleveland got out of LeBron.
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Post#1309 » by magicman123 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 12:32 am

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MagicFan32 wrote:The point of the trade was to bottom out, not be mediocre, which most of you want/wanted by the way :roll:


You know I wanted to bottom out. I just wanted ONE player to look forward to watching. We have no one to be excited about right now. Again, I'm just venting and I knew we were going to be hovering around a 33% winning percentage. Maybe we can trade for one by giving up a vet later this year.


yea i wanted 1 exciting player and 1 exciting draft pick, we got neither
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1310 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 12:45 am

Why cant Dwight just STFU! He is gonna be like Shaq then come back after he is old saying he loved Orlando! **** Him we dont want your three year old ass! sorry had to vent.
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Post#1311 » by KillMonger » Sun Dec 2, 2012 1:54 am

Just wondering anyone here think we should trade Afflalo at the deadline?
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Post#1312 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Dec 2, 2012 2:12 am

Yes, but that all depends on the package you get back and if you plan on keeping Redick long-term. You need one of those guys to be around for the next few years.
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Post#1313 » by PeePee la Fritz » Sun Dec 2, 2012 3:04 am

Bobby Ray wrote:Just wondering anyone here think we should trade Afflalo at the deadline?



I'd be ok with trading any player on this team for the right package.
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Post#1314 » by Cigamodnalro » Sun Dec 2, 2012 3:40 am

My new iPhone autocorrects Turkoglu to "turnover." Astute.

It also autocorrects Bargnani to "bargain" though...
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Post#1315 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Dec 2, 2012 3:56 am

Cigamodnalro wrote:My new iPhone autocorrects Turkoglu to "turnover." Astute.

It also autocorrects Bargnani to "bargain" though...


Mine corrects "Dwight" to "liar" ;-)
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Post#1316 » by tiderulz » Sun Dec 2, 2012 4:51 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
Bobby Ray wrote:Just wondering anyone here think we should trade Afflalo at the deadline?



I'd be ok with trading any player on this team for the right package.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVIII"Preseason"Ed.) 

Post#1317 » by gp123 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 4:56 am

I bet all of our Bigs see significant minutes tomorrow... I really hope JV lets O'Quinn take a turn on Dwight too... baptism by fire.
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Post#1318 » by KillMonger » Sun Dec 2, 2012 5:29 am

Ok what's the consensus here on BBD? Keep him or Kick him?
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Post#1319 » by MagicFan32 » Sun Dec 2, 2012 10:18 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:Why cant Dwight just STFU! He is gonna be like Shaq then come back after he is old saying he loved Orlando! **** Him we dont want your three year old ass! sorry had to vent.
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Wow, that idiot really doesn't get why people here hate him
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Post#1320 » by PeePee la Fritz » Sun Dec 2, 2012 12:31 pm

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The resting of players at the end of a season is an accepted policy and that specific precedent has been set. It is done in almost every sport. I do not agree with much of what David Stern does, but I am 100% behind him on this. First and foremost the NBA is a business, and the product it sells is entertainment. TNT paid millions of dollars for the rights to broadcast games, and to get top tier NBA games. Companies then paid TNT millions of dollars to run commercials during their broadcast. What do you think Pop's decision did to the number of people who tuned into the game? And let's also not ignore the fact that every body who paid top dollar for an early elite Spurs v Miami matchup just got shafted. The Spurs have a right to rest their players, but the NBA has to step in and penalize them to protect their product. This is about big time money, protecting the fans, the sponsors, and the broadcasters. And sorry, nobody is going to feel sorry for a tired athlete making tens of millions of dollars a year.


Stern has his idea, but the league was wrong. 4 games in 5 nights, on top of those 2 long road trips for SA. And Pop has done this before. Miami fans come to see Miami, not SA. Pop is paid to bring SA a championship, not paid by the sponsors of TNT.



The league is a business and you do not mess with what pays your bills. Stern is protecting the NBA. Listen to what Cuban had to say. He is absolutely right.

"Look, I respect the Spurs," said Cuban before the Mavericks beat the Pistons 92-77 on Saturday night. "Pop is the best coach in the league. I understand why he did it. I might even take the fine if it was us, but I understand why the league (fined the Spurs). It maybe should have even been higher, because the amount at stake is enormous."

Cuban called the national television contracts "the money train" for the NBA, pointing out that those contracts are the difference in the league being profitable or not "by a long shot."

"We're still a business," said Cuban, whose fine totals from his 13-year ownership tenure are well into seven figures. "Resting the stars for the long haul one game earlier, one game later, sure. Resting when you've got our biggest customer at stake, that's a whole different animal.
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