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[BUCKnation]

Sports director at some South Dakota network:

John Thayer ‏@johncthayer
Boise State Head Coach Chris Peterson is expected to interview at Wisconsin

[Kerb Hohl]

Yeah if I thought I cold get a 25-33% raise from a competitor I wouldn't think twice about leaving my company, I know fans get emotionally invested in their teams but if you look at it from their perspective it is easy to see why and how it could happen.

That and the assistant pay thing. Apparently that was BB's biggest gripe and what had him starting to look elsewhere. I would assume they'll pay the assistants there.

If I was a manager and was pissed about my company not budgeting enough money for me to keep a competitive staff, I could leave.

(Cue everyone going, "why didn't BB pay his assistants out of pocket!")

[humanrefutation]

I'm not blaming Bielema for leaving. I never said it was wrong for him to do so. I get the purposes behind it. But, pursuing another job in the middle of the season is classless and indicates a division of loyalty.

It's different from a regular job, where you have no choice but to pursue a job while you're working because you don't have an offseason.

And, yes, if Chris Peterson did the same thing, I'd call him out for it, too. I'm nothing but consistent in my principles.

[humanrefutation]

Sports director at some South Dakota network:

John Thayer ‏@johncthayer
Boise State Head Coach Chris Peterson is expected to interview at Wisconsin

Hmmmm.

[xTitan]

I wish BB's fat a$$ would have left last year, Chryst could have stepped in for a seamless exchange, we probably would have kept most, if not all the offensive coaching staff and had a much better year, IMO.

[Kerb Hohl]

I wish BB's fat a$$ would have left last year, Chryst could have stepped in for a seamless exchange, we probably would have kept most, if not all the offensive coaching staff and had a much better year, IMO.

Have you missed most of the recent pages about how UW is apparently notoriously bad about paying assistant coaches?

Apparently BB said 3 coaches THIS YEAR have better offers than at UW and were considering leaving.

I guess theoretically they could have paid Chryst less and paid some assistants, but most of them were leaving due to that problem.

You think Chryst is THAT good, BTW?

[Kerb Hohl]

I'm not blaming Bielema for leaving. I never said it was wrong for him to do so. I get the purposes behind it. But, pursuing another job in the middle of the season is classless and indicates a division of loyalty.

It's different from a regular job, where you have no choice but to pursue a job while you're working because you don't have an offseason.

And, yes, if Chris Peterson did the same thing, I'd call him out for it, too. I'm nothing but consistent in my principles.

As a college head coach, there is no offseason. You're off busy recruiting and the hirings normally happen immediately after the regular season, so you have to interview and look around before that. Yeah, he could have waited longer, but who knows, maybe Arkansas has a contract sitting on Al Golden's table waiting to be signed if BB hadn't planted the seed early.

Holy **** does it sound like I'm spooning the guy, but honestly I'm just trying to be a bit more realistic about it.

[humanrefutation]

SB Nation, via SportingNews, is contradicting that report on Petersen.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... oise-state

Just spoke to source who just spoke to Chris Petersen. He's not interviewing at #Wisconsin.

[humanrefutation]

I'm not blaming Bielema for leaving. I never said it was wrong for him to do so. I get the purposes behind it. But, pursuing another job in the middle of the season is classless and indicates a division of loyalty.

It's different from a regular job, where you have no choice but to pursue a job while you're working because you don't have an offseason.

And, yes, if Chris Peterson did the same thing, I'd call him out for it, too. I'm nothing but consistent in my principles.

As a college head coach, there is no offseason. You're off busy recruiting and the hirings normally happen immediately after the regular season, so you have to interview and look around before that. Yeah, he could have waited longer, but who knows, maybe Arkansas has a contract sitting on Al Golden's table waiting to be signed if BB hadn't planted the seed early.

Holy **** does it sound like I'm spooning the guy, but honestly I'm just trying to be a bit more realistic about it.

Now you're just taking a side to take a side, Grendon. If you cannot see that there a distinct difference between job hunting in the middle of the game-playing season and doing so in the offseason, I don't know what to say to you.

[xTitan]

I wish BB's fat a$$ would have left last year, Chryst could have stepped in for a seamless exchange, we probably would have kept most, if not all the offensive coaching staff and had a much better year, IMO.

Have you missed most of the recent pages about how UW is apparently notoriously bad about paying assistant coaches?

Apparently BB said 3 coaches THIS YEAR have better offers than at UW and were considering leaving.

I guess theoretically they could have paid Chryst less and paid some assistants, but most of them were leaving due to that problem.

You think Chryst is THAT good, BTW?

I think Chryst IS the reason this program has had so much success, the way he developed QB's with average talent, the way he always game planned around the Badgers strengths and hid their weaknesses, yes I think Chryst is a phenomenal offensive mind, why the hell you think Texas wanted him so bad. i can promise you all those offensive coordinators did not bolt because of money.

[xTitan]

SB Nation, via SportingNews, is contradicting that report on Petersen.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... oise-state

Just spoke to source who just spoke to Chris Petersen. He's not interviewing at #Wisconsin.

LOL you have to admit that is about as weak of a denial as I have seen...source of a source? I believe he will interview,but won't take the job.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Neither side would want you to know that an interview is going to take place. Hell lots of times the "interview" doesn't even happen until it's a done deal. That way the coach doesn't look bad if the school doesn't want them and the school doesn't look bad if the coach turns them down.

[Kerb Hohl]

I wish BB's fat a$$ would have left last year, Chryst could have stepped in for a seamless exchange, we probably would have kept most, if not all the offensive coaching staff and had a much better year, IMO.

Have you missed most of the recent pages about how UW is apparently notoriously bad about paying assistant coaches?

Apparently BB said 3 coaches THIS YEAR have better offers than at UW and were considering leaving.

I guess theoretically they could have paid Chryst less and paid some assistants, but most of them were leaving due to that problem.

You think Chryst is THAT good, BTW?

I think Chryst IS the reason this program has had so much success, the way he developed QB's with average talent, the way he always game planned around the Badgers strengths and hid their weaknesses, yes I think Chryst is a phenomenal offensive mind, why the hell you think Texas wanted him so bad. i can promise you all those offensive coordinators did not bolt because of money.

This seems to be the growing consensus over at Buckyville. The assistant coaches are leaving because we don't pay them. Bielema even mentioned it in his presser. Badgers I believe are #8 in the Big 10 right now in how much they pay their assistants and a lot of them are hot commodities and are not paid to stay.

And again, go back and read my comparison to 2008. You honestly think Paul Chryst could have made our freshman QB that much better than he already was, or O'Brien (sack of **** like Evridge when Chryst was OC), or a young Tolzein (Phillips) to come in and play OK at the end?

Dude, we just had a **** year of QBs. It happened to a Chryst team in 2008, and, guess what...that team wasn't very good. Sherer/Evridge/young Tolzien sucked.

Take JJ Watt off 2010 and that team doesn't sniff the Rose Bowl. Nothing to do with Paul Chryst. Russell Wilson I'm sure got help from Chryst but he came in as a fairly polished senior and was obviously huge.

I like Chryst, but I think you're ignoring a ton of stuff.

[humanrefutation]

LOL you have to admit that is about as weak of a denial as I have seen...source of a source? I believe he will interview,but won't take the job.

It's not source-of-a-source. Sporting News reported it. SBNation just promoted what they reported.

But you guys are right. They'll definitely want to keep it hush hush until something is concrete.

[BUCKnation]

Lots of conflicting reports...

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
A source close to Boise State's Chris Petersen said he "can't imagine" the coach leaving for Wisconsin

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2012 ... life-chart

[xTitan]

This seems to be the growing consensus over at Buckyville. The assistant coaches are leaving because we don't pay them. Bielema even mentioned it in his presser. Badgers I believe are #8 in the Big 10 right now in how much they pay their assistants and a lot of them are hot commodities and are not paid to stay.

And again, go back and read my comparison to 2008. You honestly think Paul Chryst could have made our freshman QB that much better than he already was, or O'Brien (sack of **** like Evridge when Chryst was OC), or a young Tolzein (Phillips) to come in and play OK at the end?

Dude, we just had a **** year of QBs. It happened to a Chryst team in 2008, and, guess what...that team wasn't very good. Sherer/Evridge/young Tolzien sucked.

Take JJ Watt off 2010 and that team doesn't sniff the Rose Bowl. Nothing to do with Paul Chryst. Russell Wilson I'm sure got help from Chryst but he came in as a fairly polished senior and was obviously huge.

I like Chryst, but I think you're ignoring a ton of stu

I don't give a sh** about 2008, I don't even know who the QB was....here is what I do know...Chryst took John Stocco an average talent at best and made him VERY good, the same with Tyler Donovan, the same with Scott Tolzein, Chryst took an excellent talent like Wilson and took him to the level he hoped to achieve when he came to UW. Chryst's offenses averged over 40 points per game the last two seasons he was here. I have no doubt in my mind that Chryst would have made O'brien a far better player than he was this year, because he has made guys with average talent better on three occasions....sherer and Evridge had no talent, last time I checked Tolzein is in the NFL, Obrien has far more talent than Sherer or Evridge. I can promise you the Chryst would have had all three TE's much more involved in the passing game than Canada did, Chryst's resume speaks for itself, why did Texas offer him a boat load of cash to move?

So are telling me that BB is going to say half the staff left him because they couldn't stand him and loved Chrsyt? Sorry but that is laughable, I agree finances played a role in who BB COULDN'T get, but not the main issue in who left.

[Kerb Hohl]

Why the hell do you always say "I promise you" about every team on this forum? Do you have friends in the organization? If so, I apologize and would like to hear as much as I can. If not, you act like you know way more than everyone on here, which is annoying as hell.

Texas offered Chryst a boatload of money and...yet...he stayed on that year because the Badgers ponied up (or am I not remembering this one right?)

Before Paul Chryst, Bollinger who had talent but not NFL size made the NFL. Jim **** Sorgi made the NFL. I bet Stave will have a chance if he remains the starter.

"Sherer and Evridge had no talent." NO **** - that's why they sucked in 2008. Just like a transfer retread with no awareness sucked this year and our freshman QB wasn't a worldbeater but was pretty good.

"His offense averaged 40 ppg the last 2 seasons" - That's because while Tolzein was good, they had a killer O-line, some good RBs, Nick Toon, Kendricks, etc. and Russell **** Wilson who is #6 in the NFL right now in QB rating. Chryst was definitely a huge help to the offense, but I think you're giving him like 95% of the credit instead of 20% or some number closer to that.

I'm not denying that Chryst is a good QB coach, but holy **** are you giving him a lot of credit.

I don't give a sh** about 2008

Then I "don't give a ****" about 2012 when judging Bielema's teams. I'm going to throw it out because he had QBs with no talent, just like Chryst did in 2008 when his offense sucked.

[xTitan]

Why the hell do you always say "I promise you" about every team on this forum? Do you have friends in the organization? If so, I apologize and would like to hear as much as I can. If not, you act like you know way more than everyone on here, which is annoying as hell.

Texas offered Chryst a boatload of money and...yet...he stayed on that year because the Badgers ponied up (or am I not remembering this one right?)

Before Paul Chryst, Bollinger who had talent but not NFL size made the NFL. Jim **** Sorgi made the NFL. I bet Stave will have a chance if he remains the starter.

"Sherer and Evridge had no talent." NO **** - that's why they sucked in 2008. Just like a transfer retread with no awareness sucked this year and our freshman QB wasn't a worldbeater but was pretty good.

"His offense averaged 40 ppg the last 2 seasons" - That's because while Tolzein was good, they had a killer O-line, some good RBs, Nick Toon, Kendricks, etc. and Russell **** Wilson who is #6 in the NFL right now in QB rating. Chryst was definitely a huge help to the offense, but I think you're giving him like 95% of the credit instead of 20% or some number closer to that.

I'm not denying that Chryst is a good QB coach, but holy **** are you giving him a lot of credit.

I don't give a sh** about 2008

Then I "don't give a ****" about 2012 when judging Bielema's teams. I'm going to throw it out because he had QBs with no talent, just like Chryst did in 2008 when his offense sucked.

I stated my case the best I can, I am certain most knowledgeable college football people believed Chryst was one of the best, if not the best offensive coordinator in college football...you seem to think he wasn't much because he didn't make everidge and Sherer as good as he made Tolzein, Donovan, Stocco, and Wilson....to each his own I guess.

[Kerb Hohl]

Lalwz, dude you're putting words in my mouth. I'm well aware that Chryst is good. I'm just saying some years the situation sucks. Could you imagine him with Brennan last year as starting QB? That guy sucked.

Just like you're ripping BB this year when his QBs were pretty awful talent-wise. Canada and staff made Stave pretty solid by the end of it all.

My biggest beef is how you always say "I promise" and "I am certain most knowledgeable college football people believed..." Sounds like massive douchebaggery.

I can really turn up the sarcasm and pissy-ness on this forum but you take it to a whole new level. You make it seem like your word is the common and obvious known word around the world. "I promise you that his assistants left for X reason." How about just..."His assistants left for X reason" or "I think they left for X reason." Unless you have inside sources with the Packers, Brewers, Bucks, and/or Badgers. Then please let me know. Otherwise you can almost never "promise" these things.

Another one was that "I am certain knowledgeable people knew that he was a good coordinator." Why don't you just tell somebody as passionate about this as you with a different opinion (though in this case I do think Chryst is a good coordinator) that you think they are a **** dumbass? Because that's basically what you're saying with quotes like that.