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Darius Morris is not good at all!! 

Post#1 » by thegamefritz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:12 pm

First of all I'm posting this because peeps here were or should I say are still high on him!! I've read posts here on their expectations about D. Morris and how good he is but He is not!! He is not even good even as a bench player. He should be out in the nba.

I know he was drafted late but C'mmon there are plenty of PG's and other players that are undrafted and or drafted late.

Do not Misconstrue the I hate him because I did have high hopes for him, but he has been give alot of PT and he is not doing well, there were a couple of games he score 10 pts and above but even in that game his game was poor. He can't pass (even if he made a pass still it was off- The over the head pass he gave to D12 and D12 went for a dunk, that looks spectacular but the catch was better than the pass coz that was a hairline away from a T.O if not for the great hands of dwight) he got hard time dribbling, can't decide, he can shoot sometimes to rarely.
How come our scouts are so poor that they can't find a PG in the dleague better than morris. I'm really sure there are plenty of players better than Darius morris in the dleague.
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Post#2 » by Malik Starks » Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:07 pm

I'm not a Lakers fan, but isn't he like the third or fourth string pg? You can't expect too much from a guy in that position. Also have you seen some of the PG's in the D-league? You won't do much better.
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Post#3 » by thegamefritz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 5:37 pm

Malik Starks wrote:I'm not a Lakers fan, but isn't he like the third or fourth string pg? You can't expect too much from a guy in that position. Also have you seen some of the PG's in the D-league? You won't do much better.


Yah I know he is a 3rd PG but what I'm saying is that peeps should stop the high expectations on him, he isn't even good as a 3rd PG!! and for Christ Sake Delonte West got no job
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Post#4 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Dec 5, 2012 7:09 pm

For end of bench guys like him who are very young, you can get a good 5-10 minutes out of them. But to expect them to play 20 solid minutes in a game (and then do that over a string of games), it's just not going to happen.

Honestly it's almost like 'playing him out of position'.
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Post#5 » by thegamefritz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:27 pm

for end bench guy like him given rare oppurtunity, he should have bring his A game! look at John Lucas, he played the hell out wehn D rose went down and he was just a FA back then, signed with 10 day contract. Jeremy Lin another example, spurs when they played the heat, those players were from D league except for diaw, splitter, blair, Garry Neal used to play in the D league but look where is he now, he is a good back up PG now!! Darius Morris should not be in the NBA! waive him and maybe sign Delonte West
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Post#6 » by dockingsched » Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:31 pm

people have high expectations for morris? you sure you're not reading this on some other board and not rgm?
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Post#7 » by The Prodigy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:48 pm

People were getting a bit excited around here during a so-called "stretch of good play". I've never seen ANYTHING in the kid that tells me he's an NBA player.
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Post#8 » by thegamefritz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:53 pm

dockingsched wrote:people have high expectations for morris? you sure you're not reading this on some other board and not rgm?


Ur retired mod, so I don't no if You have been reading post here. Again I'm only a ballboy here I seldom make post but Iread every single damn day! Realgm, laker nation are my news paper!

so here are the example that peeps posted about Morris

11/27/12 6:18 pm posted by Marionettetc under the topic of how do you incorporate steve blake back in the game?
his post: The way Darius has shown he can play in his absence, I honestly hope we don't.

semi-sentient 11/26/12 9:35 am
Morris has improved tremendously from one season to the next. His outside shot looks fantastic and he's done a fantastic job of finishing around the basket. His defensive effort has increased. Last season he looked absolutely hopeless out on the floor and made bad decision after bad decision. He's still not a good play-maker but he's playing more under control this season.

I hated on Morris pretty hard last year but this season he's been quite impressive and deserves to be in the rotation over Blake. We've given Blake every opportunity to succeed and he just hasn't come through for us. Perhaps he'll be better under D'Antoni but that's not a risk we should take given how well Morris has performed.

and many more post about D morris!!
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Post#9 » by thegamefritz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 8:58 pm

The Prodigy wrote:People were getting a bit excited around here during a so-called "stretch of good play". I've never seen ANYTHING in the kid that tells me he's an NBA player.


AMEN!! I almost joined on that BAndwagon that Morris can Play!!
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Post#10 » by Doormatt » Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:19 pm

ha i said i cant wait for blake to come back and some people said they prefer morris over him. i dont know why. blake can at least play at a somewhat competent nba level. morris simply does not deserve to be in the nba hes so awful.
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Post#11 » by Compton310 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:38 pm

i posted i rather have DJO who by the way is avg 20 an 7 in the d league right now.. morris is a below avg d league player a mike brown project.. even after mike brown is gone he is still costing us games :banghead:
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Post#12 » by KnickerBonkerz » Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:39 pm

Relax guys this is what, his 2nd NBA season? I think he's done the best he can considering what he's being asked to do.

I understand this is the Lakers and the fans aren't used to having to wait for players to develop but come on
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Post#13 » by Doormatt » Wed Dec 5, 2012 11:48 pm

develop what? have you seen him play? he has absolutely no court vision, cant really dribble the ball, doesnt have much of a shot, and plays like he has zero bball IQ. it would be one thing if he had shown sign of having a game, and just needing to adjust to teh nba, but he actually has very little basketball skill. all he does is play defense hard and drive to the paint recklessly which will occasionally result in something positive.
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Post#14 » by endlesspower » Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:16 am

This will be his last season in NBA anyway.
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Post#15 » by The Prodigy » Thu Dec 6, 2012 12:31 am

KnickerBonkerz wrote:Relax guys this is what, his 2nd NBA season? I think he's done the best he can considering what he's being asked to do.

I understand this is the Lakers and the fans aren't used to having to wait for players to develop but come on


It's obvious from this post that you haven't seen him play much and just chimed in for an opportunity to take a dig at "spoiled" Lakers fans.
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Post#16 » by larry14r » Thu Dec 6, 2012 2:28 am

thegamefritz wrote:for end bench guy like him given rare oppurtunity, he should have bring his A game! look at John Lucas, he played the hell out wehn D rose went down and he was just a FA back then, signed with 10 day contract. Jeremy Lin another example, spurs when they played the heat, those players were from D league except for diaw, splitter, blair, Garry Neal used to play in the D league but look where is he now, he is a good back up PG now!! Darius Morris should not be in the NBA! waive him and maybe sign Delonte West


No so fast because Morris has a guaranteed contract so we will have to take a cap hit to wavie him which the Lakers won't do because it will hurt us even more in luxury taxes, and he has a no-trade clause so he can't be traded without his saying. Also as for Delonte West he doesn't deserve a job because NO ONE WANTS HIM!!!!!
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Post#17 » by Marionettetc » Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:51 am

Darius has played as well as any second rounder who got no burn in his rookie season would.

In fact, I'd actually say he's a good passer, good shooter, has a decent head for the game, an above average handle.

Why is he bad exactly? Because he isn't playing like an all star?
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Post#18 » by rand0m » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:32 am

Doormatt wrote:develop what? have you seen him play? he has absolutely no court vision, cant really dribble the ball, doesnt have much of a shot, and plays like he has zero bball IQ. it would be one thing if he had shown sign of having a game, and just needing to adjust to teh nba, but he actually has very little basketball skill. all he does is play defense hard and drive to the paint recklessly which will occasionally result in something positive.


Sadly, I'll gladly take that for now from any backup. I think his shot is ok but his dribbling and reckless passing/drives are suspect.
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Post#19 » by Doormatt » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:01 am

well i wouldve gladly taken someone like glock over him because he can at least stand still and shoot at a higher %.
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Post#20 » by Edrees » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:10 am

Bruce Bowen was an integral part of 3 or 4 championships and ALL he did was play D and shoot 3s. Dude can't shoot a free throw, can't shoot a jumper, can't dribblem can't drive, has no court vision.

Morris isn't a defender like Bowen but can can continue to improve his defense and he's shooting the 3 at a decent percentage, which he can improve as well. How much offensive skill are we gonna need when we have jamsion, nash , pau, howard, kobe, meeks, and others to score? geez. Personally If Morris has 2 or 3 posessions where he prevents the other guard from blowing by that's worth like 6 points that our other guards like Blake would have given up. I think you over rate the impact of offense and severely toss aside what defense means to winning championships, When the combination of Morris and Dwight are on the floor, opposing guards suddenly are shocked that they have to work so hard to get ANY kind of shot off, and it pays dividends. Put Blake in there, or Duhon and that guard blows by, and Howard has to help which he's good at, but can't always be there, and it also increases the chances he gets into foul trouble.

Also if you haven't seen his improvement from the pre season IMO you are just a hater. He has gotten better. He improves at this rate he could be decent by the time the playoffs roll around. Nobody's asking this guy to be a superstar pg, just a role player who can play good D on guards, occasionally make a play, and knock down open 3's. He's been shown to do all this and he's getting better at it. I dont understand where all this anger is coming from for a guy who plays 20 mpg for us, and whose role will likely be further reduced when Nash is back.

Plus the other advantage of his youth is that he's actually available to us. Blake is the most injury prone player on our roster. Missed a lot of playoffs year we lost to the mavs, missed a lot of the games leading up to the playoffs last year, missing a lot of time now. If he's always gonna be hurt all hes gonna do is mess up our chemistry always coming out and back in. At least Morris will give us the same thing night in and night out for the season.

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