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Re: Packers sign Ryan Grant 

Post#41 » by trwi7 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:39 pm

I don't think anyone is taking Lattimore anywhere close to the 2nd or 3rd. Not after that injury.
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Post#42 » by Newz » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:39 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:You guys are selling Lattimore short. He's a much superior prospect than McGahee was and Willis went in the first round.


Was McGahee's injury really as bad as Lattimores?

I don't remember it. But I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like Lattimores.
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Post#43 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:46 pm

McGahee tore his ACL, MCL, and PCL in the National championship game. I don't know if it was ever confirmed what happened to Lattimore, though it was speculated as the same injury, possibly less severe. lattimores may have looked worse than it really was, and it occurred earlier I'm the year (I.e. more recovery time).

Again, I'll bet a cookie he goes 2 or 3. He was the best RB prospect not named Adrian Peterson in the last 15 years.
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Post#44 » by Newz » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:48 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:McGhee tore his ACL, MCL, and PCL in the National championship game. I don't know if it was ever confirmed what happened to Lattimore, though it was speculated as the same injury, possibly less severe. lattimores may have looked worse than it really was.

Again, I'll bet a cookie he goes 2 or 3.


People said Bogut's injury wasn't as bad as it looked too... and look at what it has done to his career. Same thing happened to Sean Livingston's leg, who used to be an athletic freak and his athletic ability has gone way down hill.

I just can't imagine Lattimore being drafted until later on. Someone might snag him with a 5th, 6th or 7th and hope he can be 90-95% of the player he was before the injury. But I just don't think anyone can take a risk on a guy like that in the 2nd or 3rd.

Maybe I'm wrong. But it'd have to be an Adrian Peterson type prospect for me to even think about something like that.
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Post#45 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:51 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:McGhee tore his ACL, MCL, and PCL in the National championship game. I don't know if it was ever confirmed what happened to Lattimore, though it was speculated as the same injury, possibly less severe. lattimores may have looked worse than it really was.

Again, I'll bet a cookie he goes 2 or 3.


People said Bogut's injury wasn't as bad as it looked too... and look at what it has done to his career. Same thing happened to Sean Livingston's leg, who used to be an athletic freak and his athletic ability has gone way down hill.

I just can't imagine Lattimore being drafted until later on. Someone might snag him with a 5th, 6th or 7th and hope he can be 90-95% of the player he was before the injury. But I just don't think anyone can take a risk on a guy like that in the 2nd or 3rd.

Maybe I'm wrong. But it'd have to be an Adrian Peterson type prospect for me to even think about something like that.


Well to be fair he was just about as close to an AP prospect as you're going to find. I don't think there is a running back freshman through senior in the country with his upside ATM.
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Post#46 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:55 pm

Also, Boguts career is being threatened by a different injury. Granted, he wasn't the same player after the arm injury, but still came back and made a huge impact.
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Post#47 » by Newz » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:59 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Well to be fair he was just about as close to an AP prospect as you're going to find. I don't think there is a running back freshman through senior in the country with his upside ATM.


He was? Every scouting report on Lattimore that I've read says he lacked true breakaway speed. That and watching his highlights made him seem like a guy who could get you 4.5-5 YPC by just churning out constant 3-5 yard runs and then mixing in a bunch of 10-15 yarders.

Didn't sound like he was much of a home run threat though... where as AP is obviously a guy who can break one at any time.
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Post#48 » by jakecronus8 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:05 pm

He's the kind of guy that could be successful I'm Green Bay. His strength and balance are amazing, and I have seen him break quite a few long ones on some very good SEC defenses. Not saying he's a slam dunk but his upside will be off the charts compared to who's available to Green Bay at any position in the second round. I'm not a huge running back guy as you know but with this garbage offensive line, if you want any success you need a guy that can create on his own and/or break tackles.
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Post#49 » by El Duderino » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:27 pm

trwi7 wrote:I don't think anyone is taking Lattimore anywhere close to the 2nd or 3rd. Not after that injury.


I'm not sure of the exact extent of his injury, but that was flat out gruesome looking when i first saw it happen.

I'm not a squeamish type, but i'd rather watch people trying to choke down some elk dick on Fear Factor than watch replays again of that Lattimore injury.
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Post#50 » by Be Here Now » Fri Dec 7, 2012 7:22 pm

I think McCoy is a guy who hits the market this offseason. Brown looks to be the real deal, and there's really no reason to think the Eagles won't completely clean house. What's the point in wasting Shady's prime with a young, inexperienced qb? By the time they will be ready to compete, McCoy will most likely be on a steady decline. Plus, I think they could fetch a 1st rounder for him. Nice ROI consider they only spent a 2nd on him and he gave them several all pro years.

If you were TT, would you give up your 1st this year? I think it's a no brainer. It'd be criminal to have Rodgers go thru his prime without a stud rb. Do that and then do your best to shore up the oline in the draft.
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Re: Packers sign Ryan Grant 

Post#51 » by Newz » Fri Dec 7, 2012 7:42 pm

Be Here Now wrote:I think McCoy is a guy who hits the market this offseason. Brown looks to be the real deal, and there's really no reason to think the Eagles won't completely clean house. What's the point in wasting Shady's prime with a young, inexperienced qb? By the time they will be ready to compete, McCoy will most likely be on a steady decline. Plus, I think they could fetch a 1st rounder for him. Nice ROI consider they only spent a 2nd on him and he gave them several all pro years.

If you were TT, would you give up your 1st this year? I think it's a no brainer. It'd be criminal to have Rodgers go thru his prime without a stud rb. Do that and then do your best to shore up the oline in the draft.


Assuming this wouldn't mess up our ability to retain the guys I consider to be our key players (Rodgers, Bulaga, Sitton, Cobb, Nelson, Jones, Matthews, Raji) then I would definitely consider it.

McCoy is one of the few backs in the league that can make something out of nothing and he is incredibly versatile... and he's still only going to be 25 next year. So he likely has 3-4 great years left in him and then maybe 1-2 solid ones after that. But if we do that, we have to spend at least two or three picks on the offensive line still.

I'm not one for trading picks, especially for RBs. But McCoy is a pretty special player.
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Post#52 » by ilikebeer » Sat Dec 8, 2012 3:50 pm

Maybe Philly would do Finley + a 2nd for McCoy?
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Re: Packers sign Ryan Grant 

Post#53 » by Ayt » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:05 pm

ilikebeer wrote:Maybe Philly would do Finley + a 2nd for McCoy?


Maybe Philly would laugh in your face.
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Re: Packers sign Ryan Grant 

Post#54 » by Newz » Sun Dec 9, 2012 7:05 pm

Ayt wrote:
ilikebeer wrote:Maybe Philly would do Finley + a 2nd for McCoy?


Maybe Philly would laugh in your face.


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