The Trade Thread

[JT2006]

Either way, it's just a base of opinion. I would do the deal and some of you wouldn't. That's understandable because Hill hasn't really done much but I believe he still has the ability to breakthrough and become a solid big. I'm done with the debate on that subject. It's really not even worth it because I like Sessions and what he brings to our team but I also think we need a young physical body in the paint more.

Yeah, like that Bismack Biyombo guy. Who drafted him? We could trade Hendo for him, he would be a good project big that could break out.

Biyombo has been coming along well lately. And yes, I would trade Hendo for Biyombo if he was on another team and we still lacked frontcourt depth. If I can recall you are the same neanderthal that said that the Lakers aren't interested in trading Hill because of his value to them earlier in the week and now you're trying to justify how he's not worth trading for.

The reason we don't need Hill is because we have Biyombo. The reason they need hill is because Jamison is the only other back up big on the roster.

Simple. But I guess I'm a neanderthal (who had brains 50cc larger than our own, and may have been as "intelligent" in the material sense as we are).

[mlloyd10]

Would you guys want Gasol? Was thinking of a 3 team trade where you get Gasol and Duhon and get rid of Gordon and Diop

[JT2006]

Would you guys want Gasol? Was thinking of a 3 team trade where you get Gasol and Duhon and get rid of Gordon and Diop

You know, his contract is only two years long. He probably wouldn't stay here but that's the same length as Gordon's, not much more money...

I think Pau is more valuable to other teams though. If we were in the playoffs and ready to win I'd bite. But as it is... We'd win too many games and then lose him.

[SWedd523]

You threw Diop in there as if he's not a capable defensive big that can rebound. He rebounds and block shots for us in limited minutes. The problem is that he's out of shape and can't throw a rock in the ocean. Hill is every bit of physical as Diop but a much better scorer without the belly and can get up and down the court.

Would you trade Sessions for Diop?

I didn't think so. That's the point.

You're not even trying to make sense. You'll bend it however which way to make your point seem reasonable. I never said that Diop was on the same plane as Hill because Hill is serviceable and well Diop isn't.

So is Diop a "capable defensive big that can rebound" or is he "not serviceable"?

Make your mind up. Hill has averaged less than 15 mpg in his career so far because he simply isn't that good. Trying to translate his production from 14 to 36 minutes is silly, and even if you do he's in the same statistical class as guys like this:






If you want to trade Sessions for a guy (Hill) who simply hasn't shown he's worth anything then by all means. Luckily Cho is the GM and you aren't

[HornetJail]

Would you guys want Gasol? Was thinking of a 3 team trade where you get Gasol and Duhon and get rid of Gordon and Diop

You know, his contract is only two years long. He probably wouldn't stay here but that's the same length as Gordon's, not much more money...

I think Pau is more valuable to other teams though. If we were in the playoffs and ready to win I'd bite. But as it is... We'd win too many games and then lose him.

I'll say yes.

I'd take him for this season, then trade him Corey Maggette style (or for young talent) at season's end. Some team is bound to want him and that 19M expiring deal. Not to mention he's a really good big. Playoff teams will throw all sorts of stuff at him.

I don't think adding Pau Gasol gets us into the playoffs. This isn't a bad draft to pick 7-12. There isn't anything amazing at the top and there are quite a few solid starting C/PFs available in the mid-to-late lottery.

[Kembastockton]

I don't think adding Pau Gasol gets us into the playoffs. This isn't a bad draft to pick 7-12. There isn't anything amazing at the top and there are quite a few solid starting C/PFs available in the mid-to-late lottery.

I do. I can understand how since Pau has been playing second or third fiddle on the Lakers so long than you may have forgotten. Pau as a first option is a border line twenty and ten big man. With Pau on this team for the majority of the season we easily get at least the eighth playoff spot.

[HornetJail]

I don't think adding Pau Gasol gets us into the playoffs. This isn't a bad draft to pick 7-12. There isn't anything amazing at the top and there are quite a few solid starting C/PFs available in the mid-to-late lottery.

I do. I can understand how since Pau has been playing second or third fiddle on the Lakers so long than you may have forgotten. Pau as a first option is a border line twenty and ten big man. With Pau on this team for the majority of the season we easily get at least the eighth playoff spot.

I know what he's capable of, but that's in the past. He's aging, apparently has knee issues now, and I don't think he can put a team on his shoulders anymore. He's not going to make a 25-win team become a 40-win team single-handedly.

[Kembastockton]

He wouldn't be. The bobcats don't need him to carry them. Kemba carries this team. He would be the final peice to the puzzle that Kemba, Sessions, Hendo, and Gordon need to make the playoffs. The bobcats have a dynamic backcourt and strong wing play. All they are missing is a dominant big in the paint. As far as the aging goes he is only 31. There are guys in the league in their forties.

[JT2006]

He wouldn't be. The bobcats don't need him to carry them. Kemba carries this team. He would be the final peice to the puzzle that Kemba, Sessions, Hendo, and Gordon need to make the playoffs. The bobcats have a dynamic backcourt and strong wing play. All they are missing is a dominant big in the paint. As far as the aging goes he is only 31. There are guys in the league in their forties.

If Pau came here he'd be far and away the best player on the team, no question.

[Elden Payton]

Agreed with JT completely, Pau would be by far the best player on our team.

Pau would screw our 'slow' rebuild though.

[thesneakysneak]

Agreed with JT completely, Pau would be by far the best player on our team.

Pau would screw our 'slow' rebuild though.

What about if we sit him for the rest of the year post trade with his 'knee tendernitis'?
go full tank mode for the rest of the year with him in the bank and hopefully a top 3 or so pick?

[Elden Payton]

I think if we sat Pau all year it wouldn't end well at all, either Pau's value bottoms out and we don't get anything useful in a trade or he causes a stink.

Guys like Maggette and Gordon are great for a rebuild because they are good locker room guys and don't actually do anything to help a team but are respected enough to get away with heavy minutes.

[Kembastockton]

I think you two are misunderstanding my post. Of course Pau would be the best player on our team, but with his age and knee problems it would be foolish to expect him to carry the team. If we aquired him he should be used in a Tim Duncan like role. The load should be shouldered by Kemba like Tony Parker shoulders the load in San An.

[chrbal]

My next pointless trade that makes sense. Bobcats send Warrick to Houston for Daequan Cook and Cole Aldrich.

Houston saves money(right away and I'm guessing they might buyout Warrick)/opens a roster spot.

Charlotte gets a big and a 2 guard. Both players are young and mediocre. But they are also young and expiring deals.

[catch20two]

My next pointless trade that makes sense. Bobcats send Warrick to Houston for Daequan Cook and Cole Aldrich.

Houston saves money(right away and I'm guessing they might buyout Warrick)/opens a roster spot.

Charlotte gets a big and a 2 guard. Both players are young and mediocre. But they are also young and expiring deals.

First Mullens and now possibly this. I know we're supposed to be building around the OKC model but if we keep taking their castaways then we'll have the poor man's version of the Thunder at best and that isn't winning any championships. Anyway, I hope Cho could pull this deal off if possible

[HornetJail]

Warrick isn't worth either of those guys, let alone both.

[JT2006]

Warrick isn't worth either of those guys, let alone both.

Sometimes trades aren't about talent. Three mostly talentless players are in question really.

[HornetJail]

At least Cole Aldrich is a young 7-foot center who roughly averages a double-double fairly efficiently.

[JT2006]

At least Cole Aldrich is a young 7-foot center who roughly averages a double-double fairly efficiently.

Yeah he is unfairly put down by the fans as being a bust and I kinda just went with that. He's not worth much but he is positive value, which is more than Warrick can say.

[KembaWalker]

dump Tyrus for beasley