The Bismack Biyombo Thread

[JT2006]

He might just end up being an average role player, but he's got the chance to be something special. When was the last time you saw someone as long, as athletic, and have as much range as he does?

there are guys out there but most still aren't very good in game situations

[Bomber]

Liking the hard work that Smack is putting on the boards. I think he can still improve those rebounding numbers, but his past few games has really shown him putting in the effort on the boards. Doing his thing blocking shots also, now to let him develop that post game.

[Kembastockton]

He might just end up being an average role player, but he's got the chance to be something special. When was the last time you saw someone as long, as athletic, and have as much range as he does?

To me the issue with Mullens is attitude. He seems to have the same problems many guys have. He realizes how high his potential is, and tries to play to that level instead of playing within his game and allowing it to grow.

Liking the hard work that Smack is putting on the boards. I think he can still improve those rebounding numbers, but his past few games has really shown him putting in the effort on the boards. Doing his thing blocking shots also, now to let him develop that post game.

Biz is a beast in the making. The problem right now is that the game is still to fast for him. That is why he seems so clumsy, and makes poor decisions. When the game slows down for him there is no telling how good he can become.

[Kabookalu]

There's this program that I used that helped increase my basketball IQ, it's called the basketball intelligym. Bugger was expensive for what looked like a game of Asteroids, but it's legit. The game literally slowed down for me, I started making decisions unconsciously and saw things happening before they happened.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yZExoA63fo[/youtube]

Nick Collison and Joakim Noah are products of this program and it shows in their intangibles. They know when the next play is happening.

I'm absolutely confident that if Biyombo uses the program he'll start playing better in a month max. Someone tweet it to him

[BigSlam]

Liking the hard work that Smack is putting on the boards. I think he can still improve those rebounding numbers, but his past few games has really shown him putting in the effort on the boards.

I think he has a very poor approach to rebounding. I agree that I think he can improve and if he figures out how to use his full extension then he could be an elite rebounding big in the NBA - but he is a long way off that.

[JT2006]

Liking the hard work that Smack is putting on the boards. I think he can still improve those rebounding numbers, but his past few games has really shown him putting in the effort on the boards.

I think he has a very poor approach to rebounding. I agree that I think he can improve and if he figures out how to use his full extension then he could be an elite rebounding big in the NBA - but he is a long way off that.

Well he's learning, man. And even with his poor fundamentals he's producing in game situations against good players.

[Bomber]

Liking the hard work that Smack is putting on the boards. I think he can still improve those rebounding numbers, but his past few games has really shown him putting in the effort on the boards.

I think he has a very poor approach to rebounding. I agree that I think he can improve and if he figures out how to use his full extension then he could be an elite rebounding big in the NBA - but he is a long way off that.

Well he's learning, man. And even with his poor fundamentals he's producing in game situations against good players.

Sometimes you see him and he doesn't use that 7'7 wingspan, and sometimes he fumbles the ball. It's all experience, teaching, and development. He's been in the league for the 2nd year, hasn't played much PRO ball at all, and is managing to grab decent numbers against tough big men, normally without much help (he mainly seems to play with small ball). He is some time away off being an elite rebounder, but he won't put up massive numbers since we'll be relying on him for help side D and to block + contest shots. Anyway, I'm happy to bide my time and watch him continue to develop for the next 2-3 years. Already in 1 year, I've seen more development than I did with Ajinca for 3-4 years.

I watched most, if not all of the Bobcats games this year and last year. I noted a lot of things, especially with Smack since I wanted to see where he was at, and if he would show anything that would make me say 'Yep, he's improved.' The main talking point was offense. I looked carefully at his post game, seeing how he was going. You'll see him and he's better at sealing out the man, better at establishing deep position in the post. Then his footwork is slightly better, not as mechanical. He's added a drop step, something he didn't have last year. He added a turnaround fadeaway jumper, something he didn't have previously (although it's rarely seen). He's finishing slightly better around the rim (although he REALLY needs to get up there and dunk it on offensive rebounds).

Too many people are too impatient with him. Big men take time to develop. I'm thrilled already with the signs that I see from him. He has the work ethic, the attitude and most importantly, he wants to be the best. He acknowledged he wasn't good enough when he was getting limited minutes, so he practiced harder so he could get these minutes.

[James Gatz]

Too many people are too impatient with him. Big men take time to develop. I'm thrilled already with the signs that I see from him. He has the work ethic, the attitude and most importantly, he wants to be the best. He acknowledged he wasn't good enough when he was getting limited minutes, so he practiced harder so he could get these minutes.

Well put. I completely agree.

[catch20two]

I never wavered while Biyombo struggled last season and thru the early going of this season. I always view it as if Biyombo was in the NCAA playing for a top 25 team we'd all be salivating at the chance to draft him because he would easily dominate that competition defensively. Even to this day I'm patient before passing judgement on what he can become.

[Kabookalu]

Rebounding has a lot to do with upper body strength, mostly your biceps. Most of his strength comes from his lower body. If he can improve there he'll be a lot better grabbing boards.

[DY_nasty]

Rebounding has a lot to do with upper body strength, mostly your biceps. Most of his strength comes from his lower body. If he can improve there he'll be a lot better grabbing boards.

I think its exactly the opposite.

He's always flailing around and flying everywhere because he doesn't have a solid enough core or lower body to hold his position.

[HornetJail]

I never wavered while Biyombo struggled last season and thru the early going of this season. I always view it as if Biyombo was in the NCAA playing for a top 25 team we'd all be salivating at the chance to draft him because he would easily dominate that competition defensively. Even to this day I'm patient before passing judgement on what he can become.

Exactly. We knew he was a project big when we drafted him. I didn't even expect this many flashes from his so far. We won't definitively know what kind of player he really is until he's 22-23.

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

The biggest improvement I've noticed lately is how much better he's catching the ball. Plus he's mentally more prepared that a pass might be coming unexpectedly.

He's a fun player to root for.

[Kabookalu]

I think its exactly the opposite.

He's always flailing around and flying everywhere because he doesn't have a solid enough core or lower body to hold his position.

I disagree, he has great lower body strength, and that's how he's been able to hold his own against very strong post scorers like Pekovic and Dwight.

[SWedd523]

Bismack has about as jacked an upper body as you could ask for.



His hips and lower body, however, are noticeably smaller than his upper

[SWedd523]

I think his rebounding has less to do with his physical attributes than people are claiming.

Instead of planting himself on a man and waiting for the ball at it's apex, he's jumpy and flailing all over the place trying to "out athlete" the other guys. When he gets a better fundamental base and learns to rebound the proper way then he'll do fine.

Besides, It's not like he's a poor rebounder as it is. His trb% is equal or higher than

Millsap
Gortat
Kanter
Landry
T. Thompson
Ibaka
West
Josh Smith

etc.

[Kabookalu]

Bismack has about as jacked an upper body as you could ask for.



His hips and lower body, however, are noticeably smaller than his upper

That picture seems to capture the good parts of his arms and shoulders. He seems more well defined than strong in that regard.

[Elden Payton]

You don't have to be Arnie to be jacked, Biyombo got crazy shoulders and literally no fat on his upper body, he's bigger than Dwight(muscle wise) at the same age imo.

[Kabookalu]

I'm honestly not seeing what you guys are seeing.

[SWedd523]

Those biceps aren't big?