12/12 - Miami Heat vs. Golden State Warriors - 730 ET - Sun

[Pimpwerx]

You know what's funny about this? That last play WAS some scripted play. If you listen to David Lee's postgame interview the play was drawn up for either he or Green to get the ball off the cut. Why? Because the jig is up on the Heat's defensive "scheme". Golden State knew all night we over pursue on defense, it was in their scouting report and they took advantage for the gamewinner

That doesn't ignore that the bucket came on a breakdown. How many such blown cuts did you see the Warriors get during the game? If this is some hallmark of our defense, then why wasn't it used repeatedly to burn us? The pieces were in place on the possession. We denied multiple options. Listen to what Spo said in the postgame, and realize that Green was not the target of that play. If Green and Lee were the targets of that play, then the play was terrible. If Battier didn't leave his man (something I point out we haven't been doing) then the game ends with Jack taking a long, contested shot.

Also, show me the overpursuit on that last play. IIRC, Battier sees Klay come around, assumes he got open, so he scrambles to cover him, but then sees Ray is with him a split-second later. At this point, Green's already starting the championship parade to the basket, and Shane is toast. If that was scripted to go that way, then Mark Jackson is a great offensive mind. He was able to anticipate an unusual defensive mistake from a defensive specialist. That's like Batman Levels of Planning **** right there. PEACE.

[Sc0pe92]

You know what's funny about this? That last play WAS some scripted play. If you listen to David Lee's postgame interview the play was drawn up for either he or Green to get the ball off the cut. Why? Because the jig is up on the Heat's defensive "scheme". Golden State knew all night we over pursue on defense, it was in their scouting report and they took advantage for the gamewinner

That doesn't ignore that the bucket came on a breakdown. How many such blown cuts did you see the Warriors get during the game? If this is some hallmark of our defense, then why wasn't it used repeatedly to burn us? The pieces were in place on the possession. We denied multiple options. Listen to what Spo said in the postgame, and realize that Green was not the target of that play. If Green and Lee were the targets of that play, then the play was terrible. If Battier didn't leave his man (something I point out we haven't been doing) then the game ends with Jack taking a long, contested shot.

Also, show me the overpursuit on that last play. IIRC, Battier sees Klay come around, assumes he got open, so he scrambles to cover him, but then sees Ray is with him a split-second later. At this point, Green's already starting the championship parade to the basket, and Shane is toast. If that was scripted to go that way, then Mark Jackson is a great offensive mind. He was able to anticipate an unusual defensive mistake from a defensive specialist. That's like Batman Levels of Planning **** right there. PEACE.

That was some G.O.A.T like reply right there

[HEAT111]

We played well in this game, nothing worry about. I just hope Lebron and Wade recover from their impacted hits.

[mvplayur]

Last thing: that David Lee Flagrant on LBJ should've been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. LeBron was in mid-air and Lee just shoved him with no attempt at the ball. The Warriors really got bailed out on that one and that was key for them to squeeze out a 2pt win.

You deserve the 'Worst Excuse For A Loss' award for today.

The Warriors are the same scrub team they've always been. Only a fool would think they're a 15-7 team.

Shutup. Give credit where it's due. You're a fool to think they're the same team.

[watch1958]

You know what's funny about this? That last play WAS some scripted play. If you listen to David Lee's postgame interview the play was drawn up for either he or Green to get the ball off the cut. Why? Because the jig is up on the Heat's defensive "scheme". Golden State knew all night we over pursue on defense, it was in their scouting report and they took advantage for the gamewinner

That doesn't ignore that the bucket came on a breakdown. How many such blown cuts did you see the Warriors get during the game? If this is some hallmark of our defense, then why wasn't it used repeatedly to burn us? The pieces were in place on the possession. We denied multiple options. Listen to what Spo said in the postgame, and realize that Green was not the target of that play. If Green and Lee were the targets of that play, then the play was terrible. If Battier didn't leave his man (something I point out we haven't been doing) then the game ends with Jack taking a long, contested shot.

Also, show me the overpursuit on that last play. IIRC, Battier sees Klay come around, assumes he got open, so he scrambles to cover him, but then sees Ray is with him a split-second later. At this point, Green's already starting the championship parade to the basket, and Shane is toast. If that was scripted to go that way, then Mark Jackson is a great offensive mind. He was able to anticipate an unusual defensive mistake from a defensive specialist. That's like Batman Levels of Planning **** right there. PEACE.

After the game, Allen said that he and Battier handled it as planned, and that the breakdown was not getting expected help from the weakside. Tim Legler analyzed it and said the same thing. He said the Heat ran that defense 6-8 times in the 4th Q, and that all the other times, the weakside defender came over to help.

On this play, Curry went across and dove straight into Bosh as Green was cutting. That distracted Bosh just enough to take him out of the play. So maybe it was a designed play.

[RexBoyWonder]

Q: David Lee on the postgame TV interview said, "All night the Heat have over pursued." Why can't we just play man-to-man defense without over-pursuing? -- Stuart.

A: Because if Chris Bosh would have provided the needed help on the Warriors' final basket, such pursuit would have resulted in a stop, just as they otherwise limited the Warriors to 20 fourth-quarter points and Stephen Curry to just four made baskets all night. Exhale. It's going to be OK.

That's from Ira.


Spo can insist on his small ball all he wantts, but to me our 2 biggest issues are : We dont play our bigs enough --> which makes us not only a bad rebounding team but also forces us to overhelp ---> which teams are recognizing and exploiting in a few ways, mostly for getting good open looks from 3 but also use it as a triger to get whatever they want while our defense is in constant scramble mode.

The all small ball thing was created so we could put our best players on the court. But Haslem and Rio are not playing in a level our bigs are incapable of. If you gave Joel, Jorts and Dexter all of Mario's and Haslem's minutes - there will be no drop off in overall talent.

[GreenHat]

Yeah, our defensive metrics are down drastically up to this point. You can be hopeful it evens out over a larger sample, but it's hard to gloss over that.

I don't think its just a sample size issue. We're at about a third of the games as last season and we went from one of the best defenses to one of the worst. The decline is real and inexcusable with the defensive personnel on this roster.

[GreenHat]

Joel wasnt in when the offense failed to generate points in the last 3 minutes

Too true, but we generated open looks for Ray. The Shane 3 was forced, and Lebron's brick was just stupid. It was better shots than the Joel offense, which ended up very iso-heavy at one point.

I've made no bones about it this season. I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of defense to play some pretty ball on offense. I believe that our defense is effort-based, and once guys put in the effort, we can play competitive defense with incredible offensive firepower. That's been proven wrong thus far this season, but I'm not willing to give up on it yet. For now, Joel will come in, and we'll look solid, but lose all our flash.

One of the things overlooked this season is that Spo's designed a pretty damn efficient offense, but it just doesn't look good with Joel in there. It's pretty much predicated on him being a permanent fixture on the bench. He's like a spanner in the works right now. I'm not sure if I'll ever get over it this season. PEACE.

Its not "a bit" of defense, its going from the one of the best defenses in the league to a well below average one. The ironic part is we really are only gaining "a bit" of offense even with the offense being prettier.

Again a top 3 offense doesn't matter if you can't have even a top 20 defense. The offense will be fine (as it was last year even with Joel in) but the defense will be a lot better. Its not just an issue of effort, its a personnel and coaching issue

[DynastySS]

Last thing: that David Lee Flagrant on LBJ should've been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. LeBron was in mid-air and Lee just shoved him with no attempt at the ball. The Warriors really got bailed out on that one and that was key for them to squeeze out a 2pt win.

You deserve the 'Worst Excuse For A Loss' award for today.

The Warriors are the same scrub team they've always been. Only a fool would think they're a 15-7 team.

Very fun game.

Best of luck in the rest of the season (unless we are playing you!).

[cb1]

Missed this game and from reading the thread, it probably wasn't a bad idea because i certainly would've been pissed LOL. David Lee and some rookie were jawing at Lebron? really? We're supposed to be the champs FFS. This wouldn't happen if we played our normal defense and blew these bitches out by the 4th quarter but instead we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with small lineups and playing guys big minutes who keep hurting the team SMH.

[King_John]

Just start the playoffs already...this team just sucks in the regular season...no determination no hustle no will to win...and ray at least bricked 3 wide open 3 pointers to ice the game...just so frustrating seeing this talented team underperforming at such a frequent level

[DWadeno3]

The Warriors are a pretty decent team, our blown assignment at the end was pretty f***ing dumb though.

Aside of that, we rely too much on three-point shooting, especially in crunchtime. I know we have great shooters, but our first options should always be the Big Three. When the threes were falling, it was all good and fun, but I believe going forward it'll be more efficient for us to look for D-Wade, LeBron and CB down the stretch and run plays between those guys. Wade in particular was just non-existent down the stretch. It doesn't mean we should play hero ball, but just have plays which feature the Big Three as the primary options and the other two players just as fall-back options if everything fails.

[LBJ-ITALY]

Just start the playoffs already...this team just sucks in the regular season...no determination no hustle no will to win...and ray at least bricked 3 wide open 3 pointers to ice the game...just so frustrating seeing this talented team underperforming at such a frequent level

Are you sure that this team will put the fifth gear in the playoff?
This story of "the team will play defence only in the PO'" is a ****! this team has a serious structural issues. We need a big man that can improve our interior defence .We need to rebound the ball better,Chalmers has been horrible this season !we need to protect and defend better the 3p line!It isn't about the regular season o the PO',it is about our team that has lost his identity!

[Stiltz]

Last thing: that David Lee Flagrant on LBJ should've been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. LeBron was in mid-air and Lee just shoved him with no attempt at the ball. The Warriors really got bailed out on that one and that was key for them to squeeze out a 2pt win.

You deserve the 'Worst Excuse For A Loss' award for today.

The Warriors are the same scrub team they've always been. Only a fool would think they're a 15-7 team.

First- Only a fool would make a nonsensical statement like that.

Second- I love how David Lee NOT getting ejected was the key to why your team couldn't pull out the win. Way to show confidence in your team, scrub.

[anchorman123]

Why are people calling Klay Thompson a Scrub, Dude can shoot the ball and if u leave him open he is going to knock it down

Hes not a scrub but he doesnt hit this many threes every game, hence, scrub of the night

Buddy you didn't know his name 5 minutes ago so you calling him a scrub is foolish, he burned you for 27 points! Ya don't know ****

[GSForever]

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[GSForever]

I would listen to LBJ and Wade giving love to the Dubs! Don't worry we have extra space at the end of the bandwagon.