Official Trade Thread: Part 4

DirtyDez · Post #81 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:17 am

Are we assuming Gortat is a goner? I haven't been up to date with the rumors lately...

pidi · Post #82 » by **pidi** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:21 am

Are there any rumors Or is it just us trying to change something???

Calvin Klein · Post #83 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:23 pm

sunskerr wrote:I would never forgive the front office if they traded Gortat for Bargnani/Calderon

Is there anybody in their right mind who would do that?

Kerrsed · Post #84 » by **Kerrsed** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:36 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cwummlo

Jazz get: Gortat/Frye/Dudley/Marshall
Suns get: Jefferson/Milsap

JAZZ
MoWill/Marshall
Dudley/Foye
Hayward/MarWill
Favors/Frye
Gortat/Kanter

SUNS
Dragic/Telfair
Brown/Tucker
Milsap/Beasley
Morris/Scola
Jefferson/O'Neal

thamadkant · Post #85 » by **thamadkant** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:07 pm

Does Favors even want to stay IN Utah?

The guy should be starting since start of this year... but is playing 3rd best big behind Jefferson, Milsap.

Gortat + Dragic for Favors!! :-)

phx#7 · Post #86 » by **phx#7** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:56 pm

Kerrsed wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cwummlo

Jazz get: Gortat/Frye/Dudley/Marshall
Suns get: Jefferson/Milsap

JAZZ
MoWill/Marshall
Dudley/Foye
Hayward/MarWill
Favors/Frye
Gortat/Kanter

SUNS
Dragic/Telfair
Brown/Tucker
Milsap/Beasley
Morris/Scola
Jefferson/O'Neal

I don't understand the reasoning for this trade at all. If the Suns trade any of their assets they need to be getting young prospects on rookie deals or quality picks. Trading for a couple of win now players that are UFA at years end accomplishes nothing. If the Suns really want Milsap or Jefferson they can pursue one of them in FA to team them up with Gortat and Dudley.

I think a deal centered around Burks and Marshall may have some merit though.

ATTL · Post #87 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:04 pm

DRK wrote:Most likely though, our team will go on a nice little run here. The FO will think that we're fine (which we're not), and wont make any trades.

Then, we miss the playoffs and lose Gortat for nothing next season.

Book it.

We're committed to aiming for ninth. We have great dedication like that.

grumpysaddle · Post #88 » by **grumpysaddle** » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:27 pm

1UPZ wrote:Does Favors even want to stay IN Utah?

The guy should be starting since start of this year... but is playing 3rd best big behind Jefferson, Milsap.

Gortat + Dragic for Favors!!

This would be the worst trade ever.

Kerrsed · Post #89 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:29 am

Frank Lee wrote:To Boston :
The GORTAT (phx)

To Milw :
Beasley (phx)
Marshall (phx)

To Indy :
CLee (bos)
JSullinger (bos)

To Phnx :
Danny Granger (ind)
Drew Gooden (Milw)

Does this work for everyone ? May be a draft pick can be sprinkled in if someone feels short changed.
Trying to find a home for Beasley is a challenge.... theGORTAT as well as his value is cloudy and market is slim. Phnx pretty much bags it at the C spot, relying on old bones ONeal and a cast of PF stand ins.

Have at it..... Something is bound to happen with a few of these guys.

You bag on our trades ideas, yet throw up this steaming pile of sh*t? :lol:

No way does Boston ONLY give up Lee/Sullinger for Gortat. Undervalue much?!?!?!?

DRK · Post #90 » by **DRK** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:30 am

Drew Gooden?

Good grief.

EB2 · Post #91 » by **EB2** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:33 am

DRK wrote:Drew Gooden?

Good grief.

The first second I saw Gooden heading to Phoenix I was just like NO! :lol:

SideSwipe · Post #92 » by **SideSwipe** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:50 am

[quote="Kerrsed"][quote="Frank Lee"]To Boston :
The GORTAT (phx)

To Milw :
Beasley (phx)
Marshall (phx)

To Indy :
CLee (bos)
JSullinger (bos)

To Phnx :
Danny Granger (ind)
Drew Gooden (Milw)

Does this work for everyone ? May be a draft pick can be sprinkled in if someone feels short changed.
Trying to find a home for Beasley is a challenge.... theGORTAT as well as his value is cloudy and market is slim. Phnx pretty much bags it at the C spot, relying on old bones ONeal and a cast of PF stand ins.

Have at it..... Something is bound to happen with a few of these guys.[/quote]

You bag on our trades ideas, yet throw up this steaming pile of sh*t? :lol:

No way does Boston ONLY give up Lee/Sullinger for Gortat. Undervalue much?!?!?!?[/quote]

Yeah, no kidding. Frank, I certainly applaud your effort. It is really nice to see you offer up something constructive. That said, I found this very humorous given your responses to most everyone else's trade offers.

thamadkant · Post #93 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:08 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Does Favors even want to stay IN Utah?

The guy should be starting since start of this year... but is playing 3rd best big behind Jefferson, Milsap.

Gortat + Dragic for Favors!!

This would be the worst trade ever.

Wrong

Gortat + Dragic + Suns 2013 pick for Favors is clearly worse.

Dragic is the sweetener as they love good white PGs over there.

Gortat will walk or ask near max anyways... I rather max Favors who is 21 years old and much better than Gottat already... I'm sensing next star big man in the league.

Revived · Post #94 » by **Revived** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:42 am

DRK wrote:Phoenix Trades:
- Gortat
- Brown

Charlotte Trades:
- Henderson
- Biyombo
- Either DET's or POR's Lottery Protected 1st Rounder.

I would do this. But maybe Beasley instead of Brown. Or both :lol:

Revived · Post #95 » by **Revived** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:45 am

Saberestar wrote:Interesting article...
NBA's top trade candidates

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-s ... 18190.html

I like a lot Gerald Henderson, I think he can be a good SG in our team for years to come, very solid, with huge IQ.

I like Henderson a lot too.

Would definitely love to get him here! Would be great to get him here without giving up Dragic, Dudley or Gortat. But I can't see that happening :/

ATTL · Post #96 » by **ATTL** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:56 am

sunsfan88 wrote:
DRK wrote:Phoenix Trades:
- Gortat
- Brown

Charlotte Trades:
- Henderson
- Biyombo
- Either DET's or POR's Lottery Protected 1st Rounder.

I would do this. But maybe Beasley instead of Brown. Or both

I like it too. I think Charlotte is still infatuated with Biyombo though, and if they're committed to a youth movement that trade wouldn't be great for them.

IrasArgor · Post #97 » by **IrasArgor** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:52 am

ATTL wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:
DRK wrote:Phoenix Trades:
- Gortat
- Brown

Charlotte Trades:
- Henderson
- Biyombo
- Either DET's or POR's Lottery Protected 1st Rounder.

I would do this. But maybe Beasley instead of Brown. Or both

I like it too. I think Charlotte is still infatuated with Biyombo though, and if they're committed to a youth movement that trade wouldn't be great for them.

Is here any chance to add MKG? Like offer them Beas and Marshall and myabe Memphis/ Wolves picck?

ATTL · Post #98 » by **ATTL** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:12 am

IrasArgor wrote:
Is here any chance to add MKG? Like offer them Beas and Marshall and myabe Memphis/ Wolves picck?

No way would I add marshal, his rare combination of size, passing, and athleticism is only seen 3 times every draft.

Frank Lee · Post #99 » by **Frank Lee** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:03 pm

Haha... I knew when I tossed a deal out you guys would hop right on it. I concede it was a stinker. I would like a player like Granger or Iguodala on this team though. We are woefully un-athletic right now. And I would give up theG to get one. Trade for Granger this yr, and sign up Iggy next ? That is the kind of plan we need.

But dont downplay Drew Gooden for Measley.... where else can they both go ? And Gooden would end up being a soild contributor, as he is EVERYWHERE he has played. He is better than Morris and completely on par with Scola. Gooden played pretty well the last part of last season, often at C, if I remember. I contend he is more valuable than Measley. Who has negative value.

I am also going to say Marshall is worth virtually nothing.
I havent checked what his DLeague stats are, but I assume if he was lighting them up like he should be, as most promising rooks do down there... it would be posted. Any news from his 'progress' ? My 'Bust' meter is ticking.

Edit... seem my Marshall mentions are mimicking the comments in his 'titled' thread. People forget he was surrounded by 4 pro-level college players at NC. No surprises he had a lot of assists. Another whif?

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Kerrsed · Post #100 » by **Kerrsed** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:29 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Haha... I knew when I tossed a deal out you guys would hop right on it. I concede it was a stinker. I would like a player like Granger or Iguodala on this team though. We are woefully un-athletic right now. And I would give up theG to get one. Trade for Granger this yr, and sign up Iggy next ? That is the kind of plan we need.

It was a real stinker. Im surprised nobody waived a dead cat in front of you.

I was actually thinking of PHX/IND trades yesterday and was wondering about something more along the lines of:

Gortat/Frye/Marshall/Johnson for Hibbert/Granger.

We all know that they just gave Hibbert a huge contract based off of what he did last year, but this year he has looked like udder sh*t. Lots of rumblings about how they might have made a mistake and overpaid him. If they could snag Gortat (who is currently out preforming him at almost $7M cheaper), i think they just might go for it. They are trying to contend and Hibbert has been holding them back. As for Granger, they would LOVE to dump him. They already have his replacement in George, who is on a rookie contract, and they dont know how Granger will even preform, as he has been out all year with an injury. Thats $13M not being used. Marshall gives them a PG prospect, Frye gives them a stretch big (next year), and Johnson gives them an extra $4.3M salary dump.

We then draft accordingly and fill in the gaps. Dragic/??????/Granger/???????/Hibbert.