xTitan wrote:GrendonJennings wrote:xTitan wrote:
The young coach at Toledo is FAR from having to compromise everything he believes in to keep a bunch of over-rate coaches he doesn't know or trust. This is obvious where you and I differ, I would NEVER take a job for money if I know that I am going to be set up for failure, only a fool would do that.
This is a bit of your irrational opinion coming out. If you could crack into the big leagues and probably double/triple your salary, and have to take on assistants that all just got stolen away and their salaries doubled, that's a cause for sure failure? Not sure what industry you work in but actually sometimes you have to keep those guys on and in this case as one of the middle-tier coaches it wouldn't have been bad.
xTitan wrote:Yet another shot at Paul Chryst, who is in his first year with a program you compare to a guy that has been here for seven and was obviously smart enough to see his program was in decline after Chryst left. Many Badger fans wanted Chryst and BA may have wanted him the most. not to many clamoring for a head coach from the MAC.
All my statement was was a sarcastic one to point out how irrational you are approaching this. I think Chryst would be a fine candidate but you ripped a Badger set of coaches (and BB) all hired away. You said clearly the program is in decline and those assistants suck because of their Big Ten finish when it's pretty obvious nobody else thought that. Chryst could be judged by the same criteria then and be a failure. Many of those assistants were in their first years with a rotten egg transfer QB, a freshman QB that got hurt, and a QB with guitar strings for knee ligaments. Yet, that was a reason that they were in "decline." Nevermind that the recent run was historically good and a lot of people thought NEXT YEAR's team might be Bielema's best on paper. Yet I'm sure Chryst and his magical skills would have this team with a revolving door at QB that's only going to improve in the National Championship this year. Again, I like Chryst, but man do you have irrational judgments about BB and his staff right now.
I find hilarious you call me irrational when i read your garbage and find you naive and clueless. Most intelligent people do not take a job solely for money, if they do not look at the big picture they could be miserable and commit coaching suicide. Campbell is a young up and comer, he doesn't have to take any job just because of money, especially going to a program that is going to tell you who to hire.
If Chryst was the offensive coordinator their wouldn't have been a revolving door at QB he would have either went with O'Brien or Stave and put them in the best position to be successful. You are correct on one thing, I shouldn't have spoken about all the assistants as a group, there are obviously some fine coaches there, but only a true moron who is short sighted would make a newly hired coach keep assistants he doesn't want, know, or trust.
If Chryst was the coordinator there wouldn't have been a QB revolving door? Would he have prevented Stave's injury or Phillips' uncertainty about his knees? I know that you would think O'Brien may not have played or that the midas touch of Chryst would have turned him into Andrew Luck, but come on, let's think about this here...
And yeah, I am not saying this guy would have been begging to keep BB's assistants. However, in Midranger's hypothetical situation of "mid-tier coach and keep the program the status quo" and just announce that right away or that we're waiting for a relatively big name and that is why we are losing all of those guys. That was a reasonable situation, given that we may erode good recruits if we announce some middle-tier coach on January 10.
I don't see why that is so ridiculous. In my company, there are announcements all the time of guys taking over a division or running finance at the top level (I work for a company with 130,000 employees worldwide and 25 billion in revenue) and not all of them have to go in and gut their cabinet of assistants. I'm not sure why you're saying it's moronic and that is some guarantee to fail. That is, once again, irrational, to say that "any intelligent person would not do that." Pretty sure I know several intelligent people in my own life that have done that and succeeded. If that's what it takes for you to get your break, no idea why somebody wouldn't take that chance.
