GT #23: Wizards @ Magic 7:00 PM EST

[queridiculo]

Well on our way to another moral victory. Too bad moral victory records rarely get rewarded come lottery time.

Okafor just destroyed Big Baby's rotator cuff.

[DANNYLANDOVER]

Okafor is so bad, it just hurts watching him out there move around like a robot. How can one team carry so many offensive duds: Okafor, Vesely, Singleton, Livingston?

[hands11]

Crawford is gassed.

Stand by my original take.

Should have started Crawford a PG with Martin. They could have won this easy.

Livingston is just terrible. Its like playing 4 on 5 with him out there and no PG to boot. They need to add a back up PG for Crawford until Wall returns. Livingston was -16

So our 6-9 275 athletic PF had 2 rebound tonight in 23 minutes.

Webster, Crawford and Martin all shot well from 3. Crawford was really 3-6 from 3. One was a half court chuck at the end of the half with the clock running out.

Nene is a truck in the paint. 20 pts in 24 minutes.

[Upper Decker]

I hate Crawford. I hate everything about him from a basketball perspective.

Cant hate on his steez, however.

[queridiculo]

Crawford is a baller in the vein of Nick Young. Absolutely **** useless.

[Halcyon]

Glad I didn't watch any of this turd sandwich. I saw the box early, saw that Beal wasn't playing, so there was no reason to watch. He is the only guy who really figures into this team's plans, the rest of the team (including Whitman) might as well be the walking dead. I'd MUCH rather watch the show than the product the Wizards put out there.

[TGW]

I wish other GMs were as dumb as Ernie Grunfeld when it came to trading for players. If only they would go off just boxscores—Crawford might be a trade commodity. Unfortunately, other GMs aren't that dumb—all it takes to see that Crawford is a big negative is to watch this single game.

He is just a numbskull and he should have been traded with the other stupid players on this team last season.

[queridiculo]

Grunfeld fell in love with Crawford in a meaninless preseason game and has been holding out for him to develop into an All-Star ever since.

That's all it takes for Grunfeld to make a decision, first impressions and gut feeling.

[hands11]

Btw, I don't care how poorly the Wizards suck, Wittman needs to go. The way this team plays on offense is absolutely atrocious.

He has been atrocious as a game time coach. So sad. I wanted Randy to be a good head coach.

Randy busting on the team post game saying they were playing hero ball in the 3rd. Yeah. I guess it looks like that when you have a suck ass line up out there with Livingston at the PG playing 4 on 5. Ball moves around for 10 second to no advantage and then Crawford tries to set the offense with 3 other player and 14 seconds left.

Can they call up Mack for a 10 day contract ?

[AFM]

Crawford is a baller in the vein of Nick Young. Absolutely **** useless.

I dont think Nick Young ever had a triple double.
Granted Crawford was terrible tonight, he was definitely gassed. **** this whole team looked tired.

[dandridge 10]

Btw, I don't care how poorly the Wizards suck, Wittman needs to go. The way this team plays on offense is absolutely atrocious.

UImmm, Wittman is not missing open shots over and over and over again. For the most part this year, this team has been sharing the ball and getting open looks through the offensive sets. Unfortunately, EG has put together one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA. Red Aurbach, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley could not get this team to play better offensively.

Crawford did not have the best game, but I honestly don't get the hate. Sure, he is not the most efficient player in the league and he does make poor decisions at times. However, without Crawford on this team this year, we would likely be getting blown out every game. Aside from Nene who is limited in minutes, Crawford is the only other guy on this team that has the ability to consistently put up points.

Poeple should save their hate for Ted and EG....they are the ones responsible for this disaster of a team.

[tontoz]

Crawford had 19/6/4. Yeah he had some bad turnovers but look what he has to work with. Trying to get points out of some of these guys is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.

I like what i have seen from Martin lately. His season numbers are starting to look respectable now that he is playing regular minutes.

Livingston is complete garbage.

Seraphin is starting to piss me off. He has shown no improvement in his rebounding and doesn't even try to attack the basket. Even when he gets the ball right underneath the basket he looks to fade away. He has a huge mental block he has to break through in order to be an effective player.

[dandridge 10]

Crawford had 19/6/4. Yeah he had some bad turnovers but look what he has to work with. Trying to get points out of some of these guys is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.

I like what i have seen from Martin lately. His season numbers are starting to look respectable now that he is playing regular minutes.

Livingston is complete garbage.

Seraphin is starting to piss me off. He has shown no improvement in his rebounding and doesn't even try to attack the basket. Even when he gets the ball right underneath the basket he looks to fade away. He has a huge mental block he has to break through in order to be an effective player.

+1 on all counts. I too am losing patience with Seraphin. To be blunt, he plays like a p**ssy

[closg00]

Btw, I don't care how poorly the Wizards suck, Wittman needs to go. The way this team plays on offense is absolutely atrocious.

UImmm, Wittman is not missing open shots over and over and over again. For the most part this year, this team has been sharing the ball and getting open looks through the offensive sets. Unfortunately, EG has put together one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA.Red Aurbach, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley could not get this team to play better offensively.

Crawford did not have the best game, but I honestly don't get the hate. Sure, he is not the most efficient player in the league and he does make poor decisions at times. However, without Crawford on this team this year, we would likely be getting blown out every game. Aside from Nene who is limited in minutes, Crawford is the only other guy on this team that has the ability to consistently put up points.

Poeple should save their hate for Ted and EG....they are the ones responsible for this disaster of a team.

+1,000,000 Grunfeld assembled a poor shooting team because he overcompensated for the horrific defense teams that came before this group; that forced him to take Beal.

[hands11]

Crawford had 19/6/4. Yeah he had some bad turnovers but look what he has to work with. Trying to get points out of some of these guys is like trying to get blood out of a turnip.

I like what i have seen from Martin lately. His season numbers are starting to look respectable now that he is playing regular minutes.

Livingston is complete garbage.

Seraphin is starting to piss me off. He has shown no improvement in his rebounding and doesn't even try to attack the basket. Even when he gets the ball right underneath the basket he looks to fade away. He has a huge mental block he has to break through in order to be an effective player.

Echoing my rant about him playing to French.

There was on time tonight that even Buck and Phil chimed in and you know what it takes for them to get critical. He was right under the basket and doing get contact, nor a dunk, not did he make the shot.

He is the anti Nene. But they say he and Nene practice against each other and they are trying to teach he to be more aggressive. Just not seeing enough of it. Kid has some talent but he doesn't use it the right way.

Someone of the team needs to leave some Pom Poms at his locket. Maybe the kid will wake up.

[montestewart]

Echoing my rant about him playing to French.

Seraphin suce le gros caca. Il un buste, il un buste!

[Mickstix]

I counted 5 missed shots inside of 3' before I started the 4x fast forward to the inevitable end.. Nene is the only one on the team that even tries to drive the basket. The rest is just nonsense motion that creates nothing.. Crawford could be king of the playground though, he's got some blacktop, unorthodox, funky shot jacking going on for sure.. lol But I've never seen a team miss so many layups or <3' shots in my life.. Really is remarkable they even stay close in some of these games.. If they've not already, it's time to start chanting "Eeerrrnieeeee" at the phone booth..

[dangermouse]

Crawford appeared to be running on fumes by the third.

At the end there when we got close with about 3 mins to go, why was Okafor in when we needed points? Seraphin or Singleton would have hit some of those shots that he bricked, surely.

[80sballboy]

Btw, I don't care how poorly the Wizards suck, Wittman needs to go. The way this team plays on offense is absolutely atrocious.

UImmm, Wittman is not missing open shots over and over and over again. For the most part this year, this team has been sharing the ball and getting open looks through the offensive sets. Unfortunately, EG has put together one of the worst shooting teams in the NBA. Red Aurbach, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley could not get this team to play better offensively.

Crawford did not have the best game, but I honestly don't get the hate. Sure, he is not the most efficient player in the league and he does make poor decisions at times. However, without Crawford on this team this year, we would likely be getting blown out every game. Aside from Nene who is limited in minutes, Crawford is the only other guy on this team that has the ability to consistently put up points.

Poeple should save their hate for Ted and EG....they are the ones responsible for this disaster of a team.

Somebody always needs a scapegoat. The fact that the team competed last night with Livingston starting and all those injuries is remarkable. What other choice does he have/ No Ariza, No Booker, No Beal, No Wall. He started everybody's favorite Earl Barron because CHris Singleton is awful. Is that Randy's fault Chris can't make a shot? That Vesely can't play? Unlike Flip, at least he has the team ready to play most nights, regardless of his questionable Xs and Os and love affair with Okafor.

[Zonkerbl]

wow, short game thread.