Does Jeff Teague have a furture with the hawks

[truehawksfan121]

When jeff teague went against the Chicago Bulls in the playoffs, I love what I saw from him. I thought another tony parker. Since that series I haven't liked what I have seen from him. I know he is still learning how to play a point guard in the league. I expected more from him. The problem is in the summer the hawks have the money to upgrade positions. Its not a lot of great wing players that you would give that money too but there is some good guards that will be available. Do the hawks wait on teague to develop or do they upgrade that position. The hawks need a star bad. We are ranked 26 in attendance but have the 3rd best record in the east.

[ATL Boy]

What other point guard in FA this summer is better than Teague? The RFAs like Steph Curry don't count because their teams would match. Teague has improved every year he's been in the league, he's having a career year this season and he's finally becoming a great distributor. (6.4 assists per game) He didn't play great last season because we were running the iso-Joe offense, he's finally playing with the ball in his hands and its paying dividends. He's only 24 and I think that we need to sign him before we sign Josh (don't get me wrong I still wanna sign Josh) Teague has the potential to be a 15-16 and 8-9 point guy if we surround with the right weapons. (find a real C and a get a better SF) So yes, if Ferry was smart he will resign Teague.

[MaceCase]

Al and Josh are the only two main components to the Hawks. Although I agree that besides Paul you aren't going to find an upgrade to Teague, I also think that there are comparable players out there especially when you factor in the amount it would take to resign Teague. I just see too many shades of Marvin part deux, a player with all the talent in the world but none of the confidence or assertiveness. He's actually made very incremental improvements to his game rather than any huge strides (his assists are up but his scoring efficiency is way down) and I'd hate to see him reupped at ~8 million banking on his potential just to have another Marvin situation where all we have is a productive but overpaid roleplayer.

Season is young though so we'll see if he can string together a better or more consistent 3/4ths of the season.

[Hawk4Playoffs]

Atlanta is a terrible sports city! No matter how good the team is the city doesn't support the team like it should. Jeff Teague definitely has a future with Atlanta. He is still young and hasn't reached his prime yet.

I agree with this guy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pqs5Y_QDsE

[Jamaaliver]

JT is, sadly, only a solid, average NBA Point Guard. He is athletic, a good defender with a passable jumper. But he'll never be a dominant PG. He'll continue to get better as he gets more experience, but I don't think we've seen enough consistently great play to expect him to just one day become a Rondo, CP3 or Parker. On his best day he is a 2nd tier PG in this league.

He reminds me a lot of Mookie Blaylock.

If we can get a top flight replacement, JT is gone. If we can get an experienced vet to provide similar production at a lower cost, JT is gone.

Jeff Teague is a slimmer, more athletic Ray Felton.

I wish we had taken a gamble on acquiring Damian Lillard. THAT guy is a star in the making.

[Jamaaliver]

Question:

Do we really need a top flight PG to contend for a championship?

Is tough, hard-nosed play at reasonable price enough to be a top flight team in you guys' opinions?

[Rip2137]

I...i can't believe that Jeff just got compared to Raymond Felton. Their games a literally nothing alike. One is a rotund guy that depends on his bulk to get to open spots and score and plays no defense. The other is a solid defender that uses athleticism and quickness. They are night and day.

if you haven't liked anything you have seen out of Teague since the Chicago series, question if you have watched him play since that series. He has done nothing but improve to the point he is obviously a 16-8 guy at least on a team with fewer offensive options. His numbers NOW are are not "average" for a NBA point guard. I would love to know who this mystery available point guard that could offer what he offers on both ends of the court, oh and is actually a winner.

[Jamaaliver]

I...i can't believe that Jeff just got compared to Raymond Felton. Their games are literally nothing alike. They are night and day.

I meant quality of player. Not type of player. Teague's production is similar to Felton's.

Teague: 12 ppg, 6 apg, 2 rpg on 44% FG shooting
Felton: 16 ppg, 6 apg, 3 rpg on 40% FG shooting

if you haven't liked anything you have seen out of Teague since the Chicago series, question if you have watched him play since that series. He has done nothing but improve to the point he is obviously a 16-8 guy at least on a team with fewer offensive options.

16 & 8, huh? That would match the type of production Deron Williams is putting up.

Teague is a good, solid player. I didn't mean to insult him. But there's a boatload of 2nd tier PGs with production similar to what he's putting up: Jameer, Ty Lawson, Kyle Lowry, Jeremy Lin, Goran Dragic, Mo Williams, Mike Conley, George Hill.

Maybe he gets more aggressive this year and takes control of that job for the next decade. But I think we can find a replacement with similar production fairly easily should he price himself out of our range.

[Jamaaliver]

I would love to know who this mystery available point guard that could offer what he offers on both ends of the court, oh and is actually a winner.

There's only three 'TOP' Point Guards that have won titles in the past 10 years.

Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker and Rondo.

Billups would be easiest to acquire, but considering age and injury, can't be depended on long term.

I think two obvious candidates are on the Hawks right now: Louis Williams and Devin Harris. Both guys have playoff experience and have shown signs of life this season running the team.

[truehawksfan121]

When I look at Teague he has the talent to average at least 15ppg easily. But he tends to disappear in games. He is one of the quickest guards in the league and he has great handles. But he don't attack as much as he should. He should be getting to free throw line at least 4 times a game.There is no reason why he should be averaging more points this year. He tends to defer to other players. I have seen to many games where he have slower guards on him and he doesn't take advantage of the matchup. This is why Larry drew take him out of the game a lot. I don't want another person who is not confident in there skills. I woul rather see him to shine somewhere else than to continue to play below his talent.

[Skyhawk1]

Teague's biggest flaw in my opinion is his jump shot. A guard that can't shoot will have a lot of off nights like he does. If you can't shoot at the PG position you better get to the rim. He does. He's just not so good a using his body to shield defenders and create space. On the other hand, he's got quick hands and is a decent defender. So, he's at best your average PG. He's not great. He's not so bad. Now, when I watched the Hawks play the 76rs the other day, Holiday looked so much better than him. My biggest concern with Teague is his confidence though. Not sure if it's the way he was pulled out of games when Woodson was here, but he seems to not trust himself quite often. That is hard to fix, if possible.

[PandaKidd]

I like Teague, hes worth the investment and growth to see what we can do with him. Hes young and Ive seen him improve year over year.

His biggest flaw IMO is he shoots a flatfooted jump shot. If he can develop a true jumper, where he elevates like we all know he can, he will see tremendous improvement.

He doesnt have the court vision that Rondo which is why Rondo got away with no jump shot for years. He finally started developing it over the last 2 seasons and has come a long way.

I like Teague and dont think we can do any better considering what is out there risk vs reward.

[Yungsta404]

I dont like the inconsistency lack of confidence and aggressiveness. I was very high since the chicago series and very early in the season and was confident in calling him our point guard of the future but im losing faith in him. Too many times in the season where he has looked like a scrub.

I am starting to believe he is nothing more than an mediocre point guard (on the tier of a goran dragic/mike conley/ ramon sessions. Just very average nothing special.) I guess my expectations were too high.I was so excited for him this season. With Joe gone and him being given the keys to the offense I expected him to take the next step like jrue is doing right now and develop into an all star caliber player.

He has alot of talent but he is just so mentally weak. He passes up way too many open shots, you never see him call for the ball. He shows ZERO assertiveness.

I know this is alittle harsh but i really dont care if he leaves or not. I believe he can be easily replaced

[Rip2137]

Man, you guys.

1: We have 10 guys that shoot the ball more than 4 times a game on this team. Its a balanced offense. This is a team with 4 playmakers on the team(5 if you count Al). We don't work the pick and roll to death so no, there isn't going to be a double digit assist guy here. You guys have SEEN this offense. What in the world makes you look at it and say "Yeah, Teague should be averaging more assist/points".

2: Some of you are basically saying the difference between AGRESSIVE HAS A FUTURE Teague and AVERAGE SCRUB TEAGUE is ONE shot per game. Thats one hell of a fall off. 13 points a game is sad but 15! Whoo.
3: Teague has scored in double figures in 19 of the 25 games this year. In two of those games, he shot the ball over 10 times a game (16 and 12) so offensive aggression wasn't the problem those nights. So in 21 of the 25 games he has been in double figures.

4: He has played less than 30 minutes in 14 games this year. Is that his fault? you don't think that MIGHT affect his numbers a TAD bit? One of those game he had 20-11 and only got 27 minutes. 16-5 got him only 25 minutes. 15-5 in 19 minutes. He is playing 2 fewer minutes a game this year while putting up simular scoring and better playmaking numbers.

I have to say, to see guys named as "putting up simular numbers" who play for teams that are, in a word, horrible, disappoints me. I would think I wouldn't have to say that putting up numbers on a bad team while shooting a worse percentage is ALOT easier than putting those numbers up on a deeper, winning team. But apparently I do. Mike Conley is the only one for a winning team putting up simular numbers, and he is getting praise for his performances and putting up career shooting numbers.

13 points, 6.5 assist, 2 steals with 44 FG% and 38% from three on a GOOD team are VERY impressive numbers(and yes, easily translate into another 3-4 points a game on a less talented team and more assist because he would actually have the ball in his hands more)

In games he has played more than 30 minutes, his numbers are 15.1 points, 6.5 assit, and 2.3 steals a game.

In games less than 30 minutes, its 11.1 points, 6.2 assist, .9 steals. The question is, are you saying he didn't play more because he wasn't aggressive or having a bad game? Well, he was shooting 46% in those games (where he didn't play more 30 minutes or more) 41% from 3, taking an average of 10 shots, and as you can see, his assist numbers were pretty impressive.

[JoshB914]

Is this the same Rip you insisted that Acie Law IV was an "All Star Caliber" player if Woodson had just played him more?

[Jamaaliver]

I have to say, to see guys named as "putting up simular numbers" who play for teams that are, in a word, horrible, disappoints me. I would think I wouldn't have to say that putting up numbers on a bad team while shooting a worse percentage is ALOT easier than putting those numbers up on a deeper, winning team.

Mo Williams, Ray Felton, George Hill are all providing similar production to Jeff on winning teams.

JT0 isn't a bad PG by any means, and he isn't holding us back. But I trust Ferry will do his due diligence at upgrading the position in Free Agency or the draft.

We have to consider that maybe Lou could be the long term answer at PG as well.

Fortunately for us, we get a chance to see it all play out. We'll have a better idea come May after JT0 has had 2 full seasons as starting PG.

[Rip2137]

Dude, I never called Acie Law a allstar caliber player and I am pretty sure you know that. Was the team better with him at the point instead of Anthony Johnson and Tyrone Lue? Yep. That has what to do with this?

How about refuting any of the numbers I just posted? Or explaining how a player on a bad teams numbers realistically compare to the same numbers on a winning team. or how the fact that he is putting up simular/better numbers with fewer minutes isn't a good thing?

[Rip2137]

The Jazz are BARELY a winning team, Mo Williams is getting paid nearly 9 million dollars a year, George Hill is barely shooting 40% and Ray Felton is Ray Felton and is yet to reach 40% shooting for the year.

Hill plays some solid D. I am sure my wife plays better D than Felton and Williams combined.

Simular production means at least shooting as well.