Det/Por Trade Idea

[retrolenny]

Detroit trades Greg Monroe & Corey Magghetti
Detroit Receives Lamarcus Aldridge

This is a trade that makes sense for both teams. Portland gets a budding star with all star potential. Moose is younger and on a rookie contract and can grow with the Blazers. They also get Magghetti's large expiring deal

Detroit gets a proven vet in Aldridge who can really make the Pistons a team to watch. He is literally Sheed 2.0 without the laziness. He would be the perfect compliment to Drummond. Aldridge stretches the floor and makes Det's offense explosive. Furthermore, we would be able to sign Ben to mentor AD. It's a win win for everyone but Max!!

Stuck/Bynum
Knight/Singler
Prince/Daye
Aldridge/CV
AD/Ben

[Jodi]

No man...I agree with you that LA is like a Sheed 2.0 but he isn't in the same age group as Knight and Drummond...If we're going to trade Moose I would like to trade him for Cousins...I wouldn't mind trading an expiring package of Spaghetti, Singler, and Bynum for LA...

[retrolenny]

No man...I agree with you that LA is like a Sheed 2.0 but he isn't in the same age group as Knight and Drummond...If we're going to trade Moose I would like to trade him for Cousins...I wouldn't mind trading an expiring package of Spaghetti, Singler, and Bynum for LA...

It's not like LA is past his prime. He's only 27 years old and provides veteran leadership that only Prince & Stuck has at this point. Cousins might be in the right age range but LA has better tools, better psych, more coachable, and better locker room presence!!! I'd take LA any day of the week over Cousins!!!

[dVs33]

despite mooses slump, i still wouldn't trade him unless we're getting a superstar back.
I feel like Monroe will bounce back soon. The last few games have been strange because our bench is going nuts, that won't last for long, but with guys like Daye and CV playing better, that'll space the floor for moose to work inside. He'll be back soon.

[retrolenny]

despite mooses slump, i still wouldn't trade him unless we're getting a superstar back.
I feel like Monroe will bounce back soon. The last few games have been strange because our bench is going nuts, that won't last for long, but with guys like Daye and CV playing better, that'll space the floor for moose to work inside. He'll be back soon.

Do you consider Lamarcus Aldridge a superstar in return?? I do!!

[MrBigShot]

Moose is not worth a superstar. Portland fans would laugh at the notion that he is worth Aldridge. LA is clearly a tier above Greg...he's more skilled, more athletic, and a better defender and shooter. He's an all star level player and we would be stupid not to do this trade in a heart beat if given the opportunity. He may be 27, but he hasn't logged a ridiculous amount of mins, and he doesn't rely solely on athleticism. Remember our "play the right way team" played some of their best ball in their late 20s/early 30s, and that's about how old Aldridge will be by the time our other young guys become the players they are going to be.

I like Moose but it isn't been a 2 or 3 game slump. This whole season has been essentially a regression for him, with a few flashes here and there. By a player's third season, they should make the strides needed to show you the level they are going to be at for their career. Which isn't to say that a player can't make improvements, but its rare for a guy to improve as much as someone like say...DRose, or David Lee did from when they first came into the league. Moose will not be a superstar. We shouldn't value him like one. Drummond on the other hand, has a chance to be at that perennial all star level.

[retrolenny]

Moose is not worth a superstar. Portland fans would laugh at the notion that he is worth Aldridge. LA is clearly a tier above Greg...he's more skilled, more athletic, and a better defender and shooter. He's an all star level player and we would be stupid not to do this trade in a heart beat if given the opportunity. He may be 27, but he hasn't logged a ridiculous amount of mins, and he doesn't rely solely on athleticism. Remember our "play the right way team" played some of their best ball in their late 20s/early 30s, and that's about how old Aldridge will be by the time our other young guys become the players they are going to be.

I like Moose but it isn't been a 2 or 3 game slump. This whole season has been essentially a regression for him, with a few flashes here and there. By a player's third season, they should make the strides needed to show you the level they are going to be at for their career. Which isn't to say that a player can't make improvements, but its rare for a guy to improve as much as someone like say...DRose, or David Lee did from when they first came into the league. Moose will not be a superstar. We shouldn't value him like one. Drummond on the other hand, has a chance to be at that perennial all star level.

I have read that LA is on the block. Although POR denies this, you have to wonder about the speculation. If LA is on the block then who can they get of equal value in return?? I would think that Det could even sweeten the deal by offering Singler or a future 1st..

[Warspite]

Portland fans have offered LA for Monroe on the trade board. What you also forget is that its 12mil in cap space that Portland gets and we loose.

So its Moose + potential max player in FA for LA.

Im not against it but it means that Joes 2013 cap space is gone and hes not making anymore real moves. So this team isnt going to get any better unless its interal development.

The biggest reason to say no is because we would most likely become the Bucks or Hawks. Good players 50 win yrs 1st rd exit maybe a 2nd rd but never realy a contender unless you think Drummond is the next Shaq and he will get you a ring.

Im just not ready to say Drummond is the man and we build around him and his development alone will get us a title.

[retrolenny]

Portland fans have offered LA for Monroe on the trade board. What you also forget is that its 12mil in cap space that Portland gets and we loose.

So its Moose + potential max player in FA for LA.

Im not against it but it means that Joes 2013 cap space is gone and hes not making anymore real moves. So this team isnt going to get any better unless its interal development.

The biggest reason to say no is because we would most likely become the Bucks or Hawks. Good players 50 win yrs 1st rd exit maybe a 2nd rd but never realy a contender unless you think Drummond is the next Shaq and he will get you a ring.

Im just not ready to say Drummond is the man and we build around him and his development alone will get us a title.

With Max, Daye, & Bynum coming off the books, we still have enough assets to get a starting caliber PG or SF. Prince is acceptable for now but I've always loved Aldridges game. I love Moose too and am not opposed to keeping him but I think AD would flourish being paired with LA.

[Warspite]

Portland fans have offered LA for Monroe on the trade board. What you also forget is that its 12mil in cap space that Portland gets and we loose.

So its Moose + potential max player in FA for LA.

Im not against it but it means that Joes 2013 cap space is gone and hes not making anymore real moves. So this team isnt going to get any better unless its interal development.

The biggest reason to say no is because we would most likely become the Bucks or Hawks. Good players 50 win yrs 1st rd exit maybe a 2nd rd but never realy a contender unless you think Drummond is the next Shaq and he will get you a ring.

Im just not ready to say Drummond is the man and we build around him and his development alone will get us a title.

With Max, Daye, & Bynum coming off the books, we still have enough assets to get a starting caliber PG or SF. Prince is acceptable for now but I've always loved Aldridges game. I love Moose too and am not opposed to keeping him but I think AD would flourish being paired with LA.

1.5 mil x 3 = 4.5 mil in cap holds while the 3 only give you about 11 mil in space. So your looking to spend about 6-7 mil in FA on a starter and then replace those 3 guys in min salary players and expect to improve.

IMHO the best player we could get would be JJ Reddick.

Knight/Stuckey
JJ/English/2nd rd
Prince/Singler/Middleton
LMA/Poythress
Dre/Kras

Is that a 55 win team? Will that team win the division with a healthy Rose in Chicago?

[retrolenny]

Portland fans have offered LA for Monroe on the trade board. What you also forget is that its 12mil in cap space that Portland gets and we loose.

So its Moose + potential max player in FA for LA.

Im not against it but it means that Joes 2013 cap space is gone and hes not making anymore real moves. So this team isnt going to get any better unless its interal development.

The biggest reason to say no is because we would most likely become the Bucks or Hawks. Good players 50 win yrs 1st rd exit maybe a 2nd rd but never realy a contender unless you think Drummond is the next Shaq and he will get you a ring.

Im just not ready to say Drummond is the man and we build around him and his development alone will get us a title.

With Max, Daye, & Bynum coming off the books, we still have enough assets to get a starting caliber PG or SF. Prince is acceptable for now but I've always loved Aldridges game. I love Moose too and am not opposed to keeping him but I think AD would flourish being paired with LA.

1.5 mil x 3 = 4.5 mil in cap holds while the 3 only give you about 11 mil in space. So your looking to spend about 6-7 mil in FA on a starter and then replace those 3 guys in min salary players and expect to improve.

IMHO the best player we could get would be JJ Reddick.

Knight/Stuckey
JJ/English/2nd rd
Prince/Singler/Middleton
LMA/Poythress
Dre/Kras

Is that a 55 win team? Will that team win the division with a healthy Rose in Chicago?

JJ Reddick has a sweet stroke but all we need is another guy who doesn't play defense. We need a tough, gritty guy who can disrupt offenses. Reddick is not that guy.

[Redeemed]

What about Wesley Matthews? Portland was rumored to be shopping him.

I have to admit I do like JJ Redick. Granted he isn't a big burly gritty player, he does go hard. He reminds me a bit of Rip in that regard. Rip was labled as a weak defender coming out of Washington. In Detroit he became a major irritant, getting under the skin of offensive players. Additionally with his superior conditioning he was able to stay in front of people like AI (back when AI had speed) and guard D Wade (actually arm wrestle him on every position).

JJ has great conditioning and is deceptively strong for his size (major committment to working out). I think he's ready to make the jump to starting two.

That being said I'd prefer Wesley Matthews. He shoots the 3 ball, creates off the dribble, and defends well. And the dude is STRONG, at 6'5" 220.

[retrolenny]

What about Wesley Matthews? Portland was rumored to be shopping him.

I have to admit I do like JJ Redick. Granted he isn't a big burly gritty player, he does go hard. He reminds me a bit of Rip in that regard. Rip was labled as a weak defender coming out of Washington. In Detroit he became a major irritant, getting under the skin of offensive players. Additionally with his superior conditioning he was able to stay in front of people like AI (back when AI had speed) and guard D Wade (actually arm wrestle him on every position).

JJ has great conditioning and is deceptively strong for his size (major committment to working out). I think he's ready to make the jump to starting two.

That being said I'd prefer Wesley Matthews. He shoots the 3 ball, creates off the dribble, and defends well. And the dude is STRONG, at 6'5" 220.

I like Matthews and think he would make a great Piston. What would it take to get him??