Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

BadMofoPimp · Post #601 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:29 pm

Trust me, if there is any deal involving the Magic for Cousins, Vucevic would be involved so they get a Center going back to the Kings. Thus, dream trades people coming up with will not happen as the Kings hold Cousins with a very high value. They would probably demand a trade like this:

Cousins/Salmons/Hayes for JJ/Vuc/Hedo or just Cousins/Salmons for JJ/Vuc

RookieStar · Post #602 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:29 pm

glennathan wrote:
GameOver25 wrote:I can't believe some in here are willing to trade Vuc for Cousins, why? Vuc is already putting up solid numbers and still younger, He just needs to get stronger. Cousins is a known knucklehead, yeah a different scenery might be good for him. But again do we take that risk? I don't get it.

I might be alone. But I'm not on the trade Vuc for Cousins bandwagon.

You are not alone. I do not want to part with Vucevic, Baby, or Nicholson from the front court. In the backcourt I do not want to see Nelson, Redick, or Moore traded

im with this

Post #603 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:50 pm

My main intrigue about DMC is the prospect of a DMC/Vuc front court. If we have to trade Vuc, I may reconsider my position, unless we can somehow bring Evans back too.

thelead · Post #604 » by **thelead** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:52 pm

DMC is an amazing talent. He has the talent to be the best C/PF in the league. He's like a young Rasheed Wallace and just needs to find the right situation for him. That said, I'm not sure I give up Vuc or AN to get him.

AdamTheGreek · Post #605 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:59 pm

liquid_softgel wrote:Getting a headcase with the same agent as Dwight...I'm all for improving talent, but let's not bank the future on him.

Bingo. DMC just switched to Dan Fegan. Magic organization will be hesitant at best to want to have any dealings with Fegan after the Dwight debacle.

tiderulz · Post #606 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:07 pm

thelead wrote:DMC is an amazing talent. He has the talent to be the best C/PF in the league. He's like a young Rasheed Wallace and just needs to find the right situation for him. That said, I'm not sure I give up Vuc or AN to get him.

you are kind of contradicting your self. You wont give up a budding soon to be good center for what could be the best C/PF in the league?

and I believe DMC is good, but not amazing and teaming his headcase with Fegan, I would not want him near the Magic.

BadMofoPimp · Post #607 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:12 pm

If DMC opts in, then I would trade for him. 8-)

thelead · Post #608 » by **thelead** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:52 pm

tiderulz wrote:
thelead wrote:DMC is an amazing talent. He has the talent to be the best C/PF in the league. He's like a young Rasheed Wallace and just needs to find the right situation for him. That said, I'm not sure I give up Vuc or AN to get him.

you are kind of contradicting your self. You wont give up a budding soon to be good center for what could be the best C/PF in the league?

and I believe DMC is good, but not amazing and teaming his headcase with Fegan, I would not want him near the Magic.

He has the tools/talent to be a top 5 player. Yeah, I said it :lol:

Top 5. I'm not sure his head lets him reach that potential though.

I'm not sure if I would give up Vuc just because I'm not sure we're the right situation for him. Only Hennigan and Vaughn would know if they could handle him (or at least think they could).

OOO · Post #609 » by **OOO** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:55 pm

GameOver25 wrote:I can't believe some in here are willing to trade Vuc for Cousins, why? Vuc is already putting up solid numbers and still younger, He just needs to get stronger. Cousins is a known knucklehead, yeah a different scenery might be good for him. But again do we take that risk? I don't get it.

I might be alone. But I'm not on the trade Vuc for Cousins bandwagon.

2 months younger is nothing so let's just get that out of the way. Cousins potential is sky high, top 2 center in the league while I can only see Vucevic prime is being a 15/10 player.

Optimus_Steel · Post #610 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:12 pm

15/10?. He is already at 10ppg and 10rebs. This month he is at 12/11. Vuc is going to get better.

tiderulz · Post #611 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:34 pm

OOO wrote:
GameOver25 wrote:I can't believe some in here are willing to trade Vuc for Cousins, why? Vuc is already putting up solid numbers and still younger, He just needs to get stronger. Cousins is a known knucklehead, yeah a different scenery might be good for him. But again do we take that risk? I don't get it.

I might be alone. But I'm not on the trade Vuc for Cousins bandwagon.

2 months younger is nothing so let's just get that out of the way. Cousins potential is sky high, top 2 center in the league while I can only see Vucevic prime is being a 15/10 player.

Vuc will be a 15/10 guy consistently by the end of this season, his 1st as a starter. With no ego issues, head case issues, off the court issues. (yet, maybe never)

PeePee la Fritz · Post #612 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:04 pm

tiderulz wrote:
OOO wrote:
GameOver25 wrote:I can't believe some in here are willing to trade Vuc for Cousins, why? Vuc is already putting up solid numbers and still younger, He just needs to get stronger. Cousins is a known knucklehead, yeah a different scenery might be good for him. But again do we take that risk? I don't get it.

I might be alone. But I'm not on the trade Vuc for Cousins bandwagon.

2 months younger is nothing so let's just get that out of the way. Cousins potential is sky high, top 2 center in the league while I can only see Vucevic prime is being a 15/10 player.

Vuc will be a 15/10 guy consistently by the end of this season, his 1st as a starter. With no ego issues, head case issues, off the court issues. (yet, maybe never)

I got blasted for saying he reminds me a lot of a young Pau. That's what I see from Vuc. Probably will never be as good a shot blocker, but I see a Pau clone in a couple years

MagicTownBaller · Post #613 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:23 pm

Pretty much this. I would love to take a chance on Cousins in Orlando, but the price would be too dang high. I wouldn't give up Vucevic, Nicholson, Harkless, Redick, or our first rounder. The most I would offer for Cousins is Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, Josh McRoberts, and some of the draft picks we got in the Dwight trade for DeMarcus Cousins, Chuck Hayes, and John Salmons.

I posted this on the general board in regards to trading for DeMarcus Cousins. I'm only for it if we won't give up Redick, Vucevic, Nicholson, and Harkless. Giving up Big Baby is debatable, I don't want to give him up either though, but if he is the piece they want to get it done, then do it.

MagicTownBaller · Post #614 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:25 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:I got blasted for saying he reminds me a lot of a young Pau. That's what I see from Vuc. Probably will never be as good a shot blocker, but I see a Pau clone in a couple years

I know this is a double post, but I'll deal with it. The potential with Vucevic is that he can either be a Pau Gasol or a Marc Gasol. It just depends on how we develop him.

RookieStar · Post #615 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:03 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
PeePee la Fritz wrote:I got blasted for saying he reminds me a lot of a young Pau. That's what I see from Vuc. Probably will never be as good a shot blocker, but I see a Pau clone in a couple years

I know this is a double post, but I'll deal with it. The potential with Vucevic is that he can either be a Pau Gasol or a Marc Gasol. It just depends on how we develop him.

vuc is a beast. I think he will be a better rebounding Pau Gasol

BelgianMagic · Post #616 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:19 pm

Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
A rumor out there about the Magic are interested in trading for DeMarcus Cousins. The Magic are not interested in him.

MagicTownBaller · Post #617 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:53 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
A rumor out there about the Magic are interested in trading for DeMarcus Cousins. The Magic are not interested in him.

Thank goodness.

RookieStar · Post #618 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jan 1, 2013 12:50 am

BelgianMagic wrote:
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
A rumor out there about the Magic are interested in trading for DeMarcus Cousins. The Magic are not interested in him.

Esp if it means giving up VUC. AN... probably ok with it

Post #619 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jan 1, 2013 1:28 am

I wouldn't trade Vucevic under any circumstance. Keep the man. He can be a very special player for us.

Skin · Post #620 » by **Skin** » Tue Jan 1, 2013 1:59 am

remind me not to pay attention to rumors from freshhoops.com. lol