GSW at 20-10?

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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#81 » by Muggsy Bogues » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:05 pm

Damon_3388 wrote:Imagine what will happen when Andris Biedrins remembers how to play basketball again :lol:


Actually, over the past couple of games, he has. At least everything but scoring. He defends well, blocks shots, boxes out and rebounds well, gets into passing lanes, doesn't let guys establish position, etc. If Rick Barry could teach him to be effective with the under-handed freethrow, he'd get his offensive confidence back too and we wouldn't even have to wait on Bogut to get healthy.

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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#82 » by MalonesElbows » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:08 pm

Without Bogut they are definitely pretenders, and he may be too broken down at this point to really matter. Any team with a good two way center they have lost to, including the Lakers twice, which exposes them as being too deficient in the front court to be taken seriously. The two losses against Sactown, with Cousins going to the line 18 times last game, is glaring and embarassing. They did beat the Nets twice, although Lopez only played once and went off on them when he did play. They haven't even played the Spurs yet, but it would't be pretty. To be honest, when its all said and done beating the Heat will likely have been the high point of the season for them.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#83 » by GeneralNbaFan » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:33 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:They'll finish at .500


I dont think that they will fall to 0.5, but I also dont think it will be 0.6! Something like 0.58 or so....
But I have to say : they are fun to watch. The ball movement is so good right now.
They are still a 1round exit team for me! Hope Im wrong cause I like them!
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#84 » by StocktonShorts » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:35 pm

Upcoming Clippers/Warriors games will be must-see basketball.

^^ My younger self would not have believed that sentence
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#85 » by Damon_3388 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:57 pm

Muggsy Bogues wrote:
Damon_3388 wrote:Imagine what will happen when Andris Biedrins remembers how to play basketball again :lol:


Actually, over the past couple of games, he has. At least everything but scoring. He defends well, blocks shots, boxes out and rebounds well, gets into passing lanes, doesn't let guys establish position, etc. If Rick Barry could teach him to be effective with the under-handed freethrow, he'd get his offensive confidence back too and we wouldn't even have to wait on Bogut to get healthy.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, to be fair, he is having the best defensive year of his career, and is rebounding as well as ever too. Just seems like everything else is still missing. He has become arguably the most worthless players in the league on offense.

It has most likely been discussed ad nauseum, but Biedrins' "loss of confidence" has to be one of the most perplexing sharp declines in recent history. Really can't remember a guy his age going downhill so rapidly. You can't really say it was all a result of him "getting paid" either, as his season after he got his big contract (2008-09) was nearly as good as the one that came before it (2007-08). I know he's had injuries, but geez, the guy seemingly peaked at 21-22, and has been pretty much stinking it up all throughout what should be the prime years of his career.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#86 » by TaiLs21 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:11 pm

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TaiLs21 wrote:I hate them ever since they beat the mavs. I actually hope they choke and don't make the playoffs for the next 15 years.


Really? It's not like that was your only playoff appearance in history. You guys won the title 4 years later...


Yep, I don't think they have what it takes to keep it up and if they somehow make the playoffs I hope it's a crushing sweep. The plus about that will be no lottery, but i'd rather see them not make it.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#87 » by Muggsy Bogues » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:57 pm

StocktonShorts wrote:Upcoming Clippers/Warriors games will be must-see basketball.

^^ My younger self would not have believed that sentence


My present self is having a hard time believing that sentence, even now.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#88 » by blizzard » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:08 pm

Yeah, who would have thought in the late 90s, that the western topdogs will be the Clips, Warriors and Grizzlies a decade later?

Maybe one day we will enjoy a Wizards, Bobcats, Raptors EC title fight as well. :lol:
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#89 » by floppymoose » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:57 pm

blizzard wrote:Yeah, who would have thought in the late 90s, that the western topdogs will be the Clips, Warriors and Grizzlies a decade later?

Don't forget the Sonics.

Regarding the Biedrins comments earlier, it's mental. His decline is mental. I can't think of anything like it except for Nick Anderson.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#90 » by Flash Falcon X » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:15 am

MalonesElbows wrote:Without Bogut they are definitely pretenders, and he may be too broken down at this point to really matter. Any team with a good two way center they have lost to, including the Lakers twice, which exposes them as being too deficient in the front court to be taken seriously. The two losses against Sactown, with Cousins going to the line 18 times last game, is glaring and embarassing. They did beat the Nets twice, although Lopez only played once and went off on them when he did play. They haven't even played the Spurs yet, but it would't be pretty. To be honest, when its all said and done beating the Heat will likely have been the high point of the season for them.


Wrong.

Especially when you bring up the Lakers losses, you obviously are just looking at who they lost to and not how they lost.

In the first game vs the Lakers, they held Dwight Howard to only 6 points on 33% FG shooting. Pau Gasol had 14 points and 16 rebounds, but it's not like the Lakers' frontcourt completely dominated the Warriors. Actually, Pau did dominate on the boards, but it was not the reason why the Warriors lost.

The real reason the Warriors lost that first game is because they only shot 33% on the floor that game. This first matchup was very early in the season when Klay Thompson had a slow start and Stephen Curry was struggling coming after his ankle injury/rehab. The Warriors had a shooting slump to start the year which was evident in their early games which included this Lakers' loss. Ever since then they got their rhythm back and are shooting much better and smoothly.

In the second game vs the Lakers, they held Dwight Howard to only 11 points and 6 rebounds while also holding Pau Gasol to 9 points and 10 rebounds. Very mediocre game by the Lakers frontline. You're saying that the Warriors can't handle big men, yet they clearly have no big significant problem in these losses with the LAL frontline. The Warriors actually had a 14 point lead going into the 4th quarter, but the reason they lost is because of ill advised shots by Curry and Klay early in the last quarter since they got waaayy too comfortable with the lead.

It's a good learning experience, though. Next time they get a big lead they'll learn not to give it away, as evident in their big leads that didn't go to waste against Utah, Philadelphia and Boston in the following games. Prior to their second loss against the Lakers, Golden State was 15-0 in games when they're leading going into the 4th; the Lakers won that game on a fluke, due to the Warriors being so young and naive. But like I said, it was a good lesson learned for Golden State.

With that said, the Warriors did have a lot of trouble with DeMarcus Cousins. I agree with that, but it's not like the Warriors have trouble with every single big center they face. They're a top 5 rebounding team in the NBA, and it will only get better with Andrew Bogut. Remember, the Warriors are starting an inexperienced rookie center right now and are still performing above average in the rebounding department and are still winning games. Once Andrew Bogut comes back, they'll have a top NBA defensive big man in that starting line-up which brings the rookie center Festus Ezeli off the bench, making them a much deeper, bigger team and much better defensively.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#91 » by Scalabrine » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:22 pm

Lee and Curry should both make the all star game but is there room for either with all the politics involved?

Dwight/Duncan (may not play)
Griffin/Randolph/Lee
Durant
Kobe/Harden
Paul/Westbrook/Curry/Parker

That last spot could easily be Rudy Gay instead of Tony Parker or Steph Curry but no one would put in LMA or Love over Lee would they?
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#92 » by Rasheed36 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:33 pm

Scalabrine wrote:Lee and Curry should both make the all star game but is there room for either with all the politics involved?

Dwight/Duncan (may not play)
Griffin/Randolph/Lee
Durant
Kobe/Harden
Paul/Westbrook/Curry/Parker

That last spot could easily be Rudy Gay instead of Tony Parker or Steph Curry but no one would put in LMA or Love over Lee would they?



What if Lin starts? Which is highly possible.

Lin/CP3/Westbrook/Parker

Curry almost has zero chance in a packed backcourt.

No way Curry and Lee get in. LMA > Lee. Kevin Love is pretty much a lock if it's between him and Lee.
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#93 » by floppymoose » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:38 pm

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floppymoose wrote:So much for how the "terrible tanking" was going to create a "losing culture". Big air ball on that one, eh?


Eh, one good year followed by 10 bad once.


First it was they would never win. Now it's that they won't win next year. So when they win next year, what will you say? Oh I got it, you'll say they won't win the year after that. Eventually you'll be right. I just hope you are willing to bet with me each year until then.
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Post#94 » by 9abovetherim » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:42 pm

Rasheed36 wrote: LMA > Lee.


Based on what? :roll:

LMA is putting 21.1/8.0/2.3, 47.4 %fg in 37.6 MPG, Blazers are 15-14.
Lee is putting up 20.1/11.0/3.6, 53.7%fg in 37.6 MPG, Warriors are 21-10.

How exactly LMA is better?
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Re: GSW at 20-10? 

Post#95 » by Apollo64 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:21 pm

I don't expect them to finish the season with that high win pct, but they are a hella entertaining team to watch and you can tell they have fun playing together.
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Post#96 » by J0rdan4life42o » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:01 pm

They had an impressive month...strong road wins in Atlanta and Miami, but aside for those 2 Ws, they've faced sub-par competition in December (same could be said about the Clipps competition during their streak, though 17 in a row is definitely an impressive feat, but not indicative of what they could do in the playoffs)...I was more impressed with what GS did in November, 9-6 record under a more difficult schedule.

9 of their next 10 games are pretty tough...face the Clipps 3x, Spurs, OKC, Bulls, Heat, Memphis - damn - At the very least, they should go .500 over the next 10...anything less would disappointing...or maybe just a nice dose of reality. We shall see. They're playing good ball at both ends right now though. Kudos to Mr. Jackson.
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Post#97 » by Wilford Brimley » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:54 pm

Probably my favorite team to watch right now.
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Post#98 » by blazza18 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:19 pm

9abovetherim wrote:
Rasheed36 wrote: LMA > Lee.


Based on what? :roll:

LMA is putting 21.1/8.0/2.3, 47.4 %fg in 37.6 MPG, Blazers are 15-14.
Lee is putting up 20.1/11.0/3.6, 53.7%fg in 37.6 MPG, Warriors are 21-10.

How exactly LMA is better?


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Post#99 » by TaylorMonkey » Tue Jan 1, 2013 5:29 am

Rasheed36 wrote:Kevin Love is pretty much a lock if it's between him and Lee.

Wut? Kevin Love's done nothing worthy of All-Star selection this year and he's not going to get a starter slot from fan vote.

Lee >>> Love this season so far.

Lee is a lock, especially over LMA and Love by any reasonable and logical measure.
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Post#100 » by SunsRback4Good » Tue Jan 1, 2013 6:42 am

floppymoose wrote:
DragicTime85 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:So much for how the "terrible tanking" was going to create a "losing culture". Big air ball on that one, eh?


Eh, one good year followed by 10 bad once.


First it was they would never win. Now it's that they won't win next year. So when they win next year, what will you say? Oh I got it, you'll say they won't win the year after that. Eventually you'll be right. I just hope you are willing to bet with me each year until then.


Sorry, if that sounded cruel. I actually want the Warriors to keep succeeding you guys have very loyal fans and deserve to have a great team for 3+ years. Hope you make the playoffs and make some noise. Good luck

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