RGM's Top 25 Most Valuable Players - Vote for #8

[Texas Chuck]

Repeating it for a few threads, but I REALLY disagree with Rubio getting nominated this early. His career statline is 11 pts/8.6 asts/2.3 stls per 36 minutes, his assist numbers cooled off big time the last 15 Gs of his rookie year and has major holes in his skillset (non dominant athleticism, terrible jumpshot) - he's not some proven young star. Then add in the ACL tear and how he's looked since he came back? Drummond has played only slightly less games than him and potentially dominant Cs have huge trade value. I would even nominate Derrick Favors who is a poor man's Drummond in trade value, over Rubio

Trade Value is different from player value tho. What you are ignoring is that he has to be a top 5-7 guy already as far as being a bankable star. Hes only behind for sure: Lebron, Durant and Blake Griffin. And way ahead of most of the other guys being considered. Add in his age and his on-court ability and his value is sky-high. It would take a king's ransom to pry him loose from Minny and for good reason. Note they didnt give Love the 5 year max deal (and alienated him in the process) because they were saving it for Rubio. He is very valuable.

Vote: Harden
Nom: Rubio

[lewdog]

v- Harden
n- Curry

[HartfordWhalers]

Note they didnt give Love the 5 year max deal (and alienated him in the process) because they were saving it for Rubio.

Didn't they say that Rubio doesn't get a 5 year deal either?

Either way...

V: Harden
N: M. Gasol

[Guy986]

Harden
Bosh

[Sasaki]

V: Westbrook
N: Bosh.

[Dame Lizard]

V: Harden
N: Lillard

[Drax]

V: Rondo
N: Noah

[vincecarter4pres]

Vote: Kevin Love

Nominate: Deron Williams

[vincecarter4pres]

N: Chris Bosh (so underrated on this board - better than all the other nominees and still only 28)

Good point. I didn't even think of Bosh for the nomination. He is possibly the most underrated player here on RealGM.

I agree he's insanely underrated and also that he has high trade value in general, but with his looming opt out I think his value is very destination specific. He's not going to walk from Miami, might even just opt in, but if a lotto team gives up the farm for him and he doesn't like the looks of his future with them, he'll possibly/probably walk after a season and a half, if not have his agent kill the trade before it ever happens.

[princeofpalace]

V: Harden
N: Drummond

[T-WolvesGuy]

V: Love
N: Rubio

[MNRunLeft]

V: Love
N: Rubio

[Ian Kognitow]

Vote: Blake Griffin
Nominate: Marc Gasol

[HartfordWhalers]

I just don't see how 2.5 years of Love beats 5.5 years of Harden (or 4.5 of Blake and Westbrook). Those extra years, if not Love's slump, should make the difference.

[Dr Positivity]

Also am I the only one who thinks Harden is clearly better than Love? Would rather have the perimeter creator 25ppg guy than the big man, then there's the defensive side...

[vincecarter4pres]

Also am I the only one who thinks Harden is clearly better than Love? Would rather have the perimeter creator 25ppg guy than the big man, then there's the defensive side...

No I'm with you. I definitely have Harden above Love this year and as of now just as an in general.

Actually in my player rankings IIRC I had Love at 11 to end the year and Harden at 15, so I was already inching that way.

This year thus far I don't have Love in my top 25.

[WizardsWorld]

Blake Griffin
Deron Williams

[FNQ]

V: Russ Westbrook
N: Andre Drummond

[SamBone]

V: Blake Griffin
N: Deron Williams

[theokie]

Westbrook

Rubio