Seriously Jamison?!

[chefy]

Jamison is a scorer, a solid rebounder and a vet. We knew before signing the guy he was a liability on defense so that should come as no surprise. We should be able to find at least 15mpg for a guy like this off the bench.

this. u should know what you're getting from $2 million. lets just be glad we have a 4th big man like him that can produce when needed. you can understand his frustrations because he played well when he got PT. hes far from being "garbage". tho i don't agree with giving him 10-15 min a game. play him for match up purposes or if hill is playing bad, not just for the sake of him getting minutes.

[DrewBynum77]

why should we? What reason? Because he had a great game against denver and then sucked and sucked and sucked? Who do you want to not play to get him 15 minutes? Jordan Hill? Or do you want him to play at the 3 where's he's simply PUTRID?

People that want him on the floor is mostly because of that game that helped his #s a lot.

If you see after that game those were his numbers per game before he was sent to the bench:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... :pgl_basic

7pts (39% fg) 4rbs 1ast 1TO while shooting 59% from the FT line.

and on those 9 games we only won once when he played 15 minutes or more and that was against the pathetic Hornets that went on a double digit losing streak...

There's a reason why a 'great scorer' like him spent his career on losing teams.

[DrewBynum77]

anyways, to finish my participation on this thread today I'll say what I said when he was signed: if he's shooting the 3 well he can be productive if he's not then bury him on the bench. Hill still have back problems so Jamison may get a chance again but if he's not knocking down 3pointers he's a negative player for this team.

[Gunner24]

His defense isn't THAT bad, honestly Hill isn't much better

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2oZWpqtNi4[/youtube]

Reminded me of this.

[MistyMountain20]

a lot of mob mentality goin on here.


there's a lil trend thats going on in this thread. if u dislike a player and can't find a weakness on that player. ignore the stats. and just say he sucks or he plays zero defense.

forget that fact that the guy produced when he was needed. just say hes old and slower than an injured gasol with plantar fasciitis (lol), and of course just say he sucks! and he can't play D!

say he "can't rebound" that's a better argument than actually posting his rebounding average which is 8 rpg when he was getting consistent PT. just say he's "he's useless! and not even a good shooter for a stretch four" and ignore the fact that he averaged .524 fg% and .426% 3p%. when he got PT.


and for the people saying "have you guys been watching games?" puhhhhhhleaseee go back to the GT's when jamison was producing and checkout what you posted there.

hes not playing because metta's been getting more pt at the 4 spot.

You're cherry picking numbers. Immediately following that 4 game stretch where he played well, he had a 4 game stretch where he did absolutely nothing. 17% FG and 19% on 3's. If he's gonna be inconsistent on offense, there is no value in giving him consistent minutes when there are better options available.

[stunnar0b]

With gasol, hill and even metta playing the four there just isn't any mins for jamison. right now our problem isn't scoring its defense and Jamison doesn't help us there

[Gunner24]

This is why it baffles me that people hate on D'Antoni. Hasn't he done all the right things?

I love his rotations and although I'm not a fan of the Jamison benching, he has a good reason for it. D'Antoni is all about playing defense. At least we can safely say he is an upgrade over Mike Brown.

[JustAwesome]

It's not a coincidence we started winning when he stopped playing. (and that was before nash).

Not quite sure what is being said here. Is Jamison the reason why the team was losing?

[IamBBAnalysis]

This is why it baffles me that people hate on D'Antoni. Hasn't he done all the right things?

I love his rotations and although I'm not a fan of the Jamison benching, he has a good reason for it. D'Antoni is all about playing defense. At least we can safely say he is an upgrade over Mike Brown.

I agree. Most of the Laker fans on here have given D'Antonni a fair accounting of his coaching (somewhat) but outsiders have (especially Knick fans) are just throwing cliches around.

So far D'Antonni really has been making all the right moves as far as the rotation is concerned. In my opinion. He's tried out some different players and now he has found something that works. That's what he should have done. And he's thought outside the box and in terms of the defensive side of the ball. He should get credit for that.

And those who have had issue with the minutes played by Kobe, Nash, etc...I disagree with that as well. This team was in survival mode a bit and still is. They need to learn how to win now and as they start having easier games the minutes can start to be lowered. Judge minutes played then and not now.

[madmaxmedia]

Lakers signed the guy. Its not like it was a mystery he was a non-entity on defense. Guys like Jamison sign after discussing his role and understanding he will get minutes. Multiple DNPs don't make much sense. If you weren't going to play bad defensive players then Nash would never step onto the court. Meeks isn't a good defender. I can understand why Jamison is frustrated. But then again - D'Antoni isn't really a coach. He's a guy that has been a coach on teams that Nash has played on and let Nash coach.

His money is guaranteed, PT is not.

Him and Jordan Hill are completely opposite players, so who is needed more will change from quarter to quarter, game to game, month to month. A lot depends on what the other players are doing, and what is needed at the PF spot.

[JustAwesome]

Another thing that might add to Jamison and his frustration is the fact that he could have signed with a bad team for more money and more playing time.

[MistyMountain20]

Another thing that might add to Jamison and his frustration is the fact that he could have signed with a bad team for more money and more playing time.

He got 1 of the 3 by signing with us!

[LApwnd]

I would rather see him start @ the 3 then see Morris @ the 2. Morris D is not good enough to make up for crappy shooting and his D isn't even all that to begin with, he been getting lite up regardless of who he is guarding.

[semi-sentient]

Morris hasn't been perfect on defense but he's been decent enough. It's difficult to not get lit up by quick guards when our bigs don't know how to hedge properly or rotate over to protect the rim when guards are funneled. That's mostly on Gasol who sucks at anything related to defense, but Howard has had his lapses as well. There's really only so much a perimeter defender can do nowadays since they don't allow any sort of contact, and a lot of it has to do with our defensive scheme (or lack thereof).

As for Jamison why would we start him at the 3 when he doesn't provide much offense? He's way too inefficient and can't defend anything so there's no reason to throw him in the starting lineup. I'd rather have Ebanks start at the 3 because he at least plays solid defense and runs the floor well.

[LA_Sports]

Morris hasn't been perfect on defense but he's been decent enough. It's difficult to not get lit up by quick guards when our bigs don't know how to hedge properly or rotate over to protect the rim when guards are funneled. That's mostly on Gasol who sucks at anything related to defense, but Howard has had his lapses as well. There's really only so much a perimeter defender can do nowadays since they don't allow any sort of contact, and a lot of it has to do with our defensive scheme (or lack thereof).

As for Jamison why would we start him at the 3 when he doesn't provide much offense? He's way too inefficient and can't defend anything so there's no reason to throw him in the starting lineup. I'd rather have Ebanks start at the 3 because he at least plays solid defense and runs the floor well.

Reporters on ESPN radio say that Ebanks has checked out. He knows he doesn't have a chance for playing time, so he is just phoning it in. So I don't think is a viable option for much anymore.

[semi-sentient]

Well, that sucks. He played well for us when we gave him minutes, but if he can't hold it together and stay aggressive then I guess he doesn't deserve much of a chance.

[LA_Sports]

Yeah they were saying that Jamison and Clark still show up early and work their butts off to be ready, but Ebanks is just kinda there at this point. It sucks, but it is what it is.

[JustAwesome]

The blame on that falls on both Ebanks, who has to remain a professional, and D'Antoni, who has to let his players know that nothing is guaranteed and things can change at a drop of a hat.