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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#581 » by Wolfgang » Sat Jan 5, 2013 5:30 pm

They have cap space to sign another star player. Dwight should walk from LA this offseason and sign with Houston. Houston can then trade Omer for Josh Smith.

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Looking pretty good if Morey can pull it off.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#582 » by j4remi » Sat Jan 5, 2013 5:40 pm

Wolfgang wrote:They have cap space to sign another star player. Dwight should walk from LA this offseason and sign with Houston. Houston can then trade Omer for Josh Smith.

Lin
Harden
Parsons
Smith
Howard

Looking pretty good if Morey can pull it off.


They're not getting Dwight and Asik for Smith!? Anyway, I like the roster as constructed if they can add a post threat. Realistically, they should be one of the few teams that actually shows a bit of interest in Gasol as he would be a nice fit and wouldn't be asked to do too much for them. Paul Milsap would be a nice addition too.

Let me make a statement that I never thought I would make...Douglas has been a real pleasant surprise this year. Not that he's great or anything but the kid is a solid option off the bench and still plays some real D...mpharris, this bud's for you.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#583 » by Wolfgang » Sat Jan 5, 2013 5:51 pm

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Wolfgang wrote:They have cap space to sign another star player. Dwight should walk from LA this offseason and sign with Houston. Houston can then trade Omer for Josh Smith.

Lin
Harden
Parsons
Smith
Howard

Looking pretty good if Morey can pull it off.


They're not getting Dwight and Asik for Smith!? Anyway, I like the roster as constructed if they can add a post threat. Realistically, they should be one of the few teams that actually shows a bit of interest in Gasol as he would be a nice fit and wouldn't be asked to do too much for them. Paul Milsap would be a nice addition too.

Let me make a statement that I never thought I would make...Douglas has been a real pleasant surprise this year. Not that he's great or anything but the kid is a solid option off the bench and still plays some real D...mpharris, this bud's for you.


No no no to Gasol. Dude is old and he worn out. He's injured. Why are people still overrating him beats me. I don't care what style they're running in laker land he sucks now.

And what do you mean Dwight and Asik for Smith? Dwight and Smith are free agents this summer. This is more depending on Dwight coming to Houston during free agency since Houston has space to sign another star. Now for Smith they could make a trade with Omer because since Houston is more penetrate and kick out for the 3 that would work more with Smith/Howard than Omer/Howard. Two big guys just clogging the paint won't help Houston. Douglas is playing good. His 3 point shot has been spot on this year. And he brings some real good energy off the bench.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#584 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 5, 2013 5:53 pm

That's why I love you guys...the script never changes. :lol:

I can't literally predict who will post depending what statline Lin puts up.

But anyways, I miss David Lee, that damn Walsh could have gotten us more for that guy.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#585 » by j4remi » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:00 pm

Wolfgang wrote:
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Wolfgang wrote:They have cap space to sign another star player. Dwight should walk from LA this offseason and sign with Houston. Houston can then trade Omer for Josh Smith.

Lin
Harden
Parsons
Smith
Howard

Looking pretty good if Morey can pull it off.


They're not getting Dwight and Asik for Smith!? Anyway, I like the roster as constructed if they can add a post threat. Realistically, they should be one of the few teams that actually shows a bit of interest in Gasol as he would be a nice fit and wouldn't be asked to do too much for them. Paul Milsap would be a nice addition too.

Let me make a statement that I never thought I would make...Douglas has been a real pleasant surprise this year. Not that he's great or anything but the kid is a solid option off the bench and still plays some real D...mpharris, this bud's for you.


No no no to Gasol. Dude is old and he worn out. He's injured. Why are people still overrating him beats me. I don't care what style they're running in laker land he sucks now.

And what do you mean Dwight and Asik for Smith? Dwight and Smith are free agents this summer. This is more depending on Dwight coming to Houston during free agency since Houston has space to sign another star. Now for Smith they could make a trade with Omer because since Houston is more penetrate and kick out for the 3 that would work more with Smith/Howard than Omer/Howard. Two big guys just clogging the paint won't help Houston. Douglas is playing good. His 3 point shot has been spot on this year. And he brings some real good energy off the bench.


I meant it like this...you're not getting Dwight and hell no you're not trading Asik then somehow ending up with Smith.

Who are they dumping Omer's contract on without taking back salary?

Maybe you can get Smith with a max offer, but I don't see Dwight in Houston period...that's a pipe dream. As for getting both, there's no reasonable or plausible scenario where it happens.

Houston hasn't landed anyone in FA since T-Mac...it's just not a popular destination. Pau could be had for cheap, he'd give them a veteran presence and he has a post game that they've been missing. He's also an excellent passer which works within the system. Pau is a very good third option in any system that actually suits him and he's not an awful 2nd option if it's called for by the system either. Being realistic, Houston could actually land him...unlike the we got Josh Smith AND Dwight Howard scenario which is unlikely in NBA2k even.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#586 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:03 pm

Dwight isn't leaving max dollars to come to Houston, that thinking just is not realistic.

Smith is a possibility, but since the Hawks are doing well, at this point I doubt that happens as well.

I'm not sure Houston can take on a max in the offseason though, gotta be done by trade.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#587 » by Wolfgang » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:06 pm

Yeah. Pau sucks that's how I feel about him. Time for him to retire. He won't bring anything to this team and will only slow them down. Dude can't even run down the floor. When Houston pushes the ball he might not make it to the halfcourt line. Houston has a superstar in Harden. Good enough to attract players.

I'll take Milsap. He's a nice player.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#588 » by Wolfgang » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:09 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Dwight isn't leaving max dollars to come to Houston, that thinking just is not realistic.

Smith is a possibility, but since the Hawks are doing well, at this point I doubt that happens as well.

I'm not sure Houston can take on a max in the offseason though, gotta be done by trade.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1408 ... mes-harden

They've got cap space dude. How is Houston not realistic? Is Houston located on Mars now?
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#589 » by j4remi » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:13 pm

Wolfgang wrote:Yeah. Pau sucks that's how I feel about him. Time for him to retire. He won't bring anything to this team and will only slow them down. Dude can't even run down the floor. When Houston pushes the ball he might not make it to the halfcourt line. Houston has a superstar in Harden. Good enough to attract players.

I'll take Milsap. He's a nice player.


The problem is that you're looking at two guys who are much more likely to stay home thanks to the new CBA. Getting one is a long shot let alone both. Smith could happen since he wasn't happy there a while back, but the Hawks are really doing well this year. I think Dwight will be pressed to stay in LA, he wanted a big city and he's got it...plus he's a year or two away from being THE MAN there and he's got a stacked roster that'll only improve in the offseason when they build that bench up.

Gasol is just in the wrong system right now. If you put him in a place like Houston where he's not required to do too much, he can be plenty valuable...the Gasol/Asik combo defensively and on the boards would be monstrous. Setting up Gasol in the post periodically can throw defenses off balance. He really doesn't even need to be a great scorer, just give you points in the teens on good efficiency...it's the other things he gives you that makes him valuable.

Milsap is like a vastly improved Patterson (I'm a big fan of both tbh). I think he's a realistic option and he would gel right away.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#590 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:19 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Dwight isn't leaving max dollars to come to Houston, that thinking just is not realistic.

Smith is a possibility, but since the Hawks are doing well, at this point I doubt that happens as well.

I'm not sure Houston can take on a max in the offseason though, gotta be done by trade.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1408 ... mes-harden

They've got cap space dude. How is Houston not realistic? Is Houston located on Mars now?


That article is talking two years from now, not next season, they actually don't have enough for a max....next season.

They have roughly about 45 mil committed which includes cap holds, so even if the cap were to be set at 58 mil, 14 mil starting is not max money.

They'll have to get it done by trade, which has been their goal from the start, as they know this already.

Houston might as well be on Mars, no big free agent has signed there in god knows how long.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#591 » by Bill Bradley » Sat Jan 5, 2013 6:32 pm

Agree with remi that Milsap is the most likely option, and is also probably the best option for Houston. I think he's undervalued right now and he may have upside that could be reached in Houston- especially his ability to hit the three. He is the most efficient of the available options, which makes h a target for morey. The Rox may be best off signing him to a big Two year contract so they can be players for Aldridge and Love when they become FAs.

Houston is not a bumf*ck town like Cleveland. Free agents would sign there if they become contenders and they have no income tax, like Florida.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#592 » by Pharmcat » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:04 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:Agree with remi that Milsap is the most likely option, and is also probably the best option for Houston. I think he's undervalued right now and he may have upside that could be reached in Houston- especially his ability to hit the three. He is the most efficient of the available options, which makes h a target for morey. The Rox may be best off signing him to a big Two year contract so they can be players for Aldridge and Love when they become FAs.

Houston is not a bumf*ck town like Cleveland. Free agents would sign there if they become contenders and they have no income tax, like Florida.


big time FA or close to be FA players really havent shown interest in HOU the last couple years
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#593 » by Bill Bradley » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:25 pm

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Bill Bradley wrote:Agree with remi that Milsap is the most likely option, and is also probably the best option for Houston. I think he's undervalued right now and he may have upside that could be reached in Houston- especially his ability to hit the three. He is the most efficient of the available options, which makes h a target for morey. The Rox may be best off signing him to a big Two year contract so they can be players for Aldridge and Love when they become FAs.

Houston is not a bumf*ck town like Cleveland. Free agents would sign there if they become contenders and they have no income tax, like Florida.


big time FA or close to be FA players really havent shown interest in HOU the last couple years


They haven't had Harden or been this good recently, not to mention there are fewer teams now with max cap space.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#594 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:28 pm

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Bill Bradley wrote:Agree with remi that Milsap is the most likely option, and is also probably the best option for Houston. I think he's undervalued right now and he may have upside that could be reached in Houston- especially his ability to hit the three. He is the most efficient of the available options, which makes h a target for morey. The Rox may be best off signing him to a big Two year contract so they can be players for Aldridge and Love when they become FAs.

Houston is not a bumf*ck town like Cleveland. Free agents would sign there if they become contenders and they have no income tax, like Florida.


big time FA or close to be FA players really havent shown interest in HOU the last couple years


They haven't had Harden or been this good recently, not to mention there are fewer teams now with max cap space.

Really makes no difference, Houston just hasn't been a prime destination for big name free agents.

Houston does not have max space either which is why they want to acquire their guy by trade.

They';ll have roughly 45 committed in salaries and required holds.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#595 » by Bill Bradley » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:39 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Really makes no difference, Houston just hasn't been a prime destination for big name free agents.

Houston does not have max space either which is why they want to acquire their guy by trade.

They';ll have roughly 45 committed in salaries and required holds.


Fact is, no team has been a big FA destination other than Miami or the Lakers. What big FAs have the Knicks signed recently? Amare (who other teams didn't want at that contract)? It is a new CBA and players will go where the money is. If we are talking about a guy like Milsap, he is gone from Utah next year and the Rockets can offer a starting position and the most money on a contending team.

Everything I've read tells me the Rockets have the max, but it may depend on what player and what max we are talking about. If they are not there now, wouldn't be hard for them to get there.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#596 » by god shammgod » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:47 pm

dwight will likely stay with the lakers and get the most money he can. if he doesn't fully recover he might not get another max so he's got to get as much money for as many years as he can now.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#597 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 5, 2013 7:51 pm

Bill Bradley wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Really makes no difference, Houston just hasn't been a prime destination for big name free agents.

Houston does not have max space either which is why they want to acquire their guy by trade.

They';ll have roughly 45 committed in salaries and required holds.


Fact is, no team has been a big FA destination other than Miami or the Lakers. What big FAs have the Knicks signed recently? Amare (who other teams didn't want at that contract)? It is a new CBA and players will go where the money is. If we are talking about a guy like Milsap, he is gone from Utah next year and the Rockets can offer a starting position and the most money on a contending team.

Everything I've read tells me the Rockets have the max, but it may depend on what player and what max we are talking about. If they are not there now, wouldn't be hard for them to get there.

This is even further proof that big names wont likely come to Houston.

It's just the same remix that folks said about Denver, guys would be willing to come there.

Nope, maybe Milsap does go there, but he isn't a big name free agent either, certainly not worth a 14 mil starting salary.

Star players are usually acquire by trade, that will be the only way Houston has any shot to acquire that guy, whomever they may be.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#598 » by Bill Bradley » Sat Jan 5, 2013 8:20 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:Really makes no difference, Houston just hasn't been a prime destination for big name free agents.

Houston does not have max space either which is why they want to acquire their guy by trade.

They';ll have roughly 45 committed in salaries and required holds.


Fact is, no team has been a big FA destination other than Miami or the Lakers. What big FAs have the Knicks signed recently? Amare (who other teams didn't want at that contract)? It is a new CBA and players will go where the money is. If we are talking about a guy like Milsap, he is gone from Utah next year and the Rockets can offer a starting position and the most money on a contending team.

Everything I've read tells me the Rockets have the max, but it may depend on what player and what max we are talking about. If they are not there now, wouldn't be hard for them to get there.

This is even further proof that big names wont likely come to Houston.

It's just the same remix that folks said about Denver, guys would be willing to come there.

Nope, maybe Milsap does go there, but he isn't a big name free agent either, certainly not worth a 14 mil starting salary.

Star players are usually acquire by trade, that will be the only way Houston has any shot to acquire that guy, whomever they may be.

Well I agree that landing guys like Dwight and Love is unlikely in free agency, and I also agree that Morey would instead try to get them in trade. But finding undervalued guys and giving th a larger role is what Morey is good at, and I could see that happening with Millsap. But I could also see th targeting him in trade this season before the deadline.
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Re: Around the NBA part 2 

Post#599 » by Brooklyn_Yards » Sat Jan 5, 2013 8:35 pm

Patrick Beverley agreed to a three-year deal with the Houston Rockets on Thursday, according to a source.

The deal is not official because the two sides are still waiting for clearance from FIBA.

Beverley had been playing for Spartak Saint Petersburg in Russia.

Scott Machado plays the same position as Beverley and has a non-guaranteed contract, making him a candidate to be waived to create a roster spot.

We should sign Machado to the Dleague give him another look in the summer.
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Post#600 » by Capn'O » Sat Jan 5, 2013 8:45 pm

Millsap is probably the best and most realistic target for Houston.

Aldridge isn't leaving Portland, damnit... seriously though, I think if they have a good draft and sell a good offseason plan he will stay. There is a nice core group out here and it's a great city. The Blazers just need some depth.

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