All Things "Brooklyn Nets" Thread

therealbig3 · Post #801 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:38 am

I want Kenyon Martin on this team so bad. He's desperate and willing to take a vet minimum offer at this point. What is there to lose?

You know how we're already getting props for having a tough team and having guys that don't take any crap (Evans, Wallace)? Add K-Mart to that group.

And he's a very good defender, and he can finish around the rim, even at his age. Yeah, he's injury-prone, but we're not asking him to play a ton of minutes. Just get in there for 10-12 minutes, play strong defense and rough up the opposing big men.

And of course, him playing for the Nets again would be awesome for us as fans.

With the skills he has, the intensity he has, the toughness he has, and knowing that he's willing to take the vet min, I'm shocked that someone hasn't called him up at this point.

therealbig3 · Post #802 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:56 am

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Born_Ready · Post #803 » by **Born_Ready** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:36 pm

I concur with adding Kenyon Martin to the roster. His defensive presence alone would be worth the small fee to obtain his services. However, I don't see him being a "character guy" that Avery can coach. That's the only thing I can think of why they haven't made a run at him thus far.

PetroNet · Post #804 » by **PetroNet** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:16 pm

As much as I love kenyon martin, and would love to see him on this team, I really don't see where he fits in right now. Not alot of minutes to go around with a 4-man rotation of bigs(Lopez, Hump, Evans, Blatche) who all seem to be playing well and have good chemistry/high effort. Then also Minutes going to wallace at the 4 when we go small. as it is we have Teletovic, who we used the exception on in a suit riding the pine.

I just really don't see where Kmart would get minutes other then injury/foul trouble or sending blatche out of the rotation -- which seams unlikely with him being our only offensive minded big off the bench and Avery taking him on as his own personal rehabilitation project.

Kmart might settle for the vets minimum at this point, but would he also settle for 5 minutes per game and the occasional string of DNPs?

I just dont see the fit right now

therealbig3 · Post #805 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:35 am

PetroNet wrote:As much as I love kenyon martin, and would love to see him on this team, I really don't see where he fits in right now. Not alot of minutes to go around with a 4-man rotation of bigs(Lopez, Hump, Evans, Blatche) who all seem to be playing well and have good chemistry/high effort. Then also Minutes going to wallace at the 4 when we go small. as it is we have Teletovic, who we used the exception on in a suit riding the pine.

I just really don't see where Kmart would get minutes other then injury/foul trouble or sending blatche out of the rotation -- which seams unlikely with him being our only offensive minded big off the bench and Avery taking him on as his own personal rehabilitation project.

Kmart might settle for the vets minimum at this point, but would he also settle for 5 minutes per game and the occasional string of DNPs?

I just dont see the fit right now

Well, in crunch time, we're going with Evans more than Hump at this point. Martin would be another guy we could have confidence in during crunch time to go out there and rebound/defend.

He could easily get 7-10 mpg and take away some of Hump's playing time, and some of Blatche's playing time.

PetroNet · Post #806 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Dec 1, 2012 5:41 am

therealbig3 wrote:
Well, in crunch time, we're going with Evans more than Hump at this point. Martin would be another guy we could have confidence in during crunch time to go out there and rebound/defend.

who are you taking off the court in crunch time evans or lopez? the way evans is playing i dont see how bringing kmart in there would make sense or be an improvement. they would be kind of redundant on this team

He could easily get 7-10 mpg and take away some of Hump's playing time, and some of Blatche's playing time.

it doesnt work that way. you can just say "take 3 minutes each from blatche/hump/evans and that gives you 10 minutes". for one, blatche and evans play mostly together, so you cant take 3 minutes from each. you can give him some of humps minutes, but they would be to scattered. if you shave off 2 minutes from humps minutes in the 1st 4th that really is too spread out.

even if you could carve out 5 minutes he would just be yanked in and out. which is back to my original point. is he willign to take the minmum AND play 5-7 minutes, scattered, with DNPs sprinkled in?

there just isnt a regular rotation spot open for him. 5 bigs + wallace when you go small is just to many players for 2 positions in a rotation. he would have to replace evans or blatche. the way evans is playing you cant replace him or cut his minutes. blatche provides offense and i dont think avery or king would consider benching him for kmart.

id love to have kmart, but unless he is willing to play a stackhouse like roll, there is no room for him

AntwanBoldin · Post #807 » by **AntwanBoldin** » Sat Dec 1, 2012 6:08 am

Take us through the play and fight with Kris Humphries. Was he too physical?
"A little bit. A little bit. When you watch film on the dude, he's always extra. I've seen him foul out. We watched film of the last time the last time we played in Brooklyn and he kind of gave Paul [Pierce] a similar type of foul - two hands, had something on it. Dude's always been known to be out of control and he's always tried to play the tough guy, or whatever, role. It was a little extra, but it comes with the territory, comes with the game. They've tried to add physicality to that team and I guess they're trying to hold up to the whole Brooklyn mentality. Everybody knows that Brooklyn is known for being stern and firm and whatever, so I guess this is the new look of the Nets. It had something on it, but you either adapt or go home."

Brooooooook-

therealbig3 · Post #808 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Dec 1, 2012 6:19 am

PetroNet wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
Well, in crunch time, we're going with Evans more than Hump at this point. Martin would be another guy we could have confidence in during crunch time to go out there and rebound/defend.

who are you taking off the court in crunch time evans or lopez? the way evans is playing i dont see how bringing kmart in there would make sense or be an improvement. they would be kind of redundant on this team

He could easily get 7-10 mpg and take away some of Hump's playing time, and some of Blatche's playing time.

it doesnt work that way. you can just say "take 3 minutes each from blatche/hump/evans and that gives you 10 minutes". for one, blatche and evans play mostly together, so you cant take 3 minutes from each. you can give him some of humps minutes, but they would be to scattered. if you shave off 2 minutes from humps minutes in the 1st 4th that really is too spread out.

even if you could carve out 5 minutes he would just be yanked in and out. which is back to my original point. is he willign to take the minmum AND play 5-7 minutes, scattered, with DNPs sprinkled in?

there just isnt a regular rotation spot open for him. 5 bigs + wallace when you go small is just to many players for 2 positions in a rotation. he would have to replace evans or blatche. the way evans is playing you cant replace him or cut his minutes. blatche provides offense and i dont think avery or king would consider benching him for kmart.

id love to have kmart, but unless he is willing to play a stackhouse like roll, there is no room for him

Ok, but even then, 5 mpg of scattered playing time and DNPs are better than nothing right? Based on the last thing I read about him, he'll sign with the first team that calls him up and offers him a spot. And it doesn't concern me that he's that desperate and other teams haven't called...I saw him last year, and I know he can still be a positive contributor out there, specifically on defense.

There's no harm in calling him and seeing if he'd be ok with being the 5th big who's going to receive very limited playing time, is there? If he's still willing...you can do a lot worse than someone like K-Mart as the 5th big man. Don't ignore that we might (probably will) have to deal with injuries to our big men too as the season goes on.

PetroNet · Post #809 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Dec 1, 2012 6:02 pm

therealbig3 wrote:
Ok, but even then, 5 mpg of scattered playing time and DNPs are better than nothing right?

if you are asking me, as a fan, - YES. everyone loves kmart and would love to see him back here.

if you are asking me, as a GM - NO. because it doesnt make sense to bring in another veteran big, to a team that has a set rotation of bigs and a rookie big who needs any PT he can get to adjust to the league, on a team that is 11-4. Honestly other then an injury i can't see us brining in martin

Based on the last thing I read about him, he'll sign with the first team that calls him up and offers him a spot.

maybe, but id assume that would be to a team that would give him at least consistent minutes and needs him in their rotation -- like the celtics for instance. would he comes here to play 50% of the games and get garbage minutes?

And it doesn't concern me that he's that desperate and other teams haven't called...I saw him last year, and I know he can still be a positive contributor out there, specifically on defense.

oh i agree here for sure. im not worried about his game. i just dont see where he fits in with the nets right now.

There's no harm in calling him and seeing if he'd be ok with being the 5th big who's going to receive very limited playing time, is there? If he's still willing...you can do a lot worse than someone like K-Mart as the 5th big man. Don't ignore that we might (probably will) have to deal with injuries to our big men too as the season goes on.

we very well may have already called him. who knows. i might be wrong, but i just dont see the nets bringing him in with our situation and i really dont see him being interested in DNPs/5 minutes here when he can get more consistent playing time elsewhere

Keith Van Horn · Post #810 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:44 pm

Has this been discussed yet..... A new "game over Victory" song???

After watching Joe Johnson hit the game winner last night and just hearing "Brooklyn... Brooklyn..." like the chant everyone does (which is getting WAY overused), I thought it was time we start a petition, or just write into someone on Twitter, about having a new victory song.

Anyone have any ideas? Something Jay Z or Biggie I'm thinking... or maybe something else which is more fitting with a Brooklyn theme.

PetroNet · Post #811 » by **PetroNet** » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:10 pm

macgyver893 wrote:Has this been discussed yet..... A new "game over Victory" song???

After watching Joe Johnson hit the game winner last night and just hearing "Brooklyn... Brooklyn..." like the chant everyone does (which is getting WAY overused), I thought it was time we start a petition, or just write into someone on Twitter, about having a new victory song.

Anyone have any ideas? Something Jay Z or Biggie I'm thinking... or maybe something else which is more fitting with a Brooklyn theme.

im all for a new victory song.... our version of "new york new york" after a yankees win.

odb brooklyn zoo? brooklyns finest jays/biggie?

options are endless

therealbig3 · Post #812 » by **therealbig3** » Thu Jan 3, 2013 11:38 am

We're only 4.5 games behind the Knicks, despite playing like **** and them having a super-soft schedule.

The Knicks' next 6 games are the Spurs, the Magic, the Celtics, the Pacers, the Bulls, and the Hornets (on January 13th).

The Nets' next 5 games are the Wizards, the Kings, the Sixers, the Suns, and the Pacers (on January 13th).

So, the only "good" team the Nets play are the Pacers, and that's a winnable game anyway, but assuming a loss, the Nets should be 4-1 during that stretch and have at least a 21-16 record at the end of the night.

The only "easy" teams that the Knicks play are the Magic and the Hornets, but the Magic will be at home and have had some surprising wins this season, and can scrape by just off of heart in some games. That may be a trap game. The Hornets have a lot more talent than their record indicates, and that can be another trap game. However, in all likelihood, those are two wins for the Knicks. I'm assuming the Spurs game is a loss, hopefully they don't disappoint me like they did in the first matchup with the Knicks. The Celtics have been horrible this year, but as they proved on Christmas, when they're motivated (and they will be against the Knicks), they can play really well. The Pacers are an elite defensive team, and the Bulls have had the Knicks' number so far this year.

I'll say the Knicks beat the Magic, Celtics, and Hornets during that stretch, and lose to the Spurs, Pacers, and Bulls, and so go 3-3 over their next 6 games and will end up 24-13 by the end of January 13th.

Long story short, if we win the games we're supposed to win, and we get a little bit of luck from the Knicks' opponents, we should only be 3 games behind the Knicks within the next 10 days.

vincecarter4pres · Post #813 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Jan 3, 2013 9:02 pm

Long story short, I wish I looked over the Knix schedule before submitting my January O/U picks in the NBA Contest! :lol:

therealbig3 · Post #814 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jan 4, 2013 2:35 am

Man, the Spurs are annoying. There goes my prediction.

KnickBourne · Post #815 » by **KnickBourne** » Fri Jan 4, 2013 8:13 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Man, the Spurs are annoying. There goes my prediction.

Wait? You guys want us to lose? What happened to the Brooklyn love man.

therealbig3 · Post #816 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Jan 4, 2013 10:24 pm

KnickBourne wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Man, the Spurs are annoying. There goes my prediction.

Wait? You guys want us to lose? What happened to the Brooklyn love man.

You're in our division and are currently ahead of us.

And nothing personal, but I hate your team's guts.

bobbyc · Post #817 » by **bobbyc** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 1:49 am

I didn't realize that the 2nd half of our season looks pretty easy. Our first half of our season was much harder.

Where as the Knicks 2nd half of the season looks kinda tough.

I think Greener pastures are ahead.

N Ireland Nets · Post #818 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:08 am

Just sitting looking at how things stand right now with Hump looking like he'll be starting again versus Philly.

I'm getting excited about watching our bench unit play. I remember they looked real good at the start of the season but started to be a bit of a problem more recently.

Now with the emergence of Teletovic and so long as he maintains his play he showed in his last two games, we have a very dangerous 2nd unit:

Watson - Can hit the 3 consistently
Brooks - Erratic but dangerous
Bogans - 3 ball with good defence
Teletovic - Stretch 4 spread the floor
Blatche - Camp down low loves da hoes

This could be a real run and gun instant offence second unit. Just like versus the Kings, the second unit just opened up the big margin to ease us through the game.

I can't see many 2nd units that this bench mob couldn't deal with. So long as the starters do their job, we could start to see this group really take off. They fit quite well together and if anything they will be fun to watch. This group could really benefit Blatche and give him even more room to work in the paint which can only benefit Brooklyn. Double Blatche in the post and we can kick it to the open man for a 3 or to work an open look.

A lot will come down to Teletovic because if he doesn't make his shots the PF guarding him won't have to bother leaving the paint to contest any shots. But if Tele hits a few it changes everything.

I'm expecting another big game from Blatche against the 76er's.

Lets go Bench Mob!!

MGrand15 · Post #819 » by **MGrand15** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:30 am

Really hope Mirza continues his little emergence. He completely changes the dynamic of our team. He's the only stretch 4 we have. Even if we go small and play Crash at 4, teams don't respect his jump shot. With Mirza, the floor is spaced better than it is with any other combo we can throw out there. Really want to see Deron play with Mirza - I'm sure they'd help each other lots.

N Ireland Nets · Post #820 » by **N Ireland Nets** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:18 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Really hope Mirza continues his little emergence. He completely changes the dynamic of our team. He's the only stretch 4 we have. Even if we go small and play Crash at 4, teams don't respect his jump shot. With Mirza, the floor is spaced better than it is with any other combo we can throw out there. Really want to see Deron play with Mirza - I'm sure they'd help each other lots.

D Will & Teletovic pick & pop should be deadly. It was the one thing I was sure of when Tele signed in the summer. I saw Tele as playing like Boozer in the pick & roll game but stretching the floor better.

Fingers crossed he performs well.