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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#201 » by aj49689 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:38 pm

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21shumpshumpst wrote:Seeing as I have an engineering degree I think i will be able to deal with reading of sciences especially math and physics really well. And if I don't get it I have a friend in NYU who is knee deep in physics as we speak. I'll be ok but thanks for the worry.

We change the law because without guns you don't get murders than happen with guns pretty simple.

If I can guarantee that another school shooting doesn't happen then I am all for it.

Btw there is a difference between me saying "hey a school shooting JUST happened" so lets make sure it doesn't happen again. To "hey a US dictatorship has never happen in the history of the US but it MIGHT happen so lets keep our guns". I doubt you can see the difference.


So go read about HAARP, engineer. You're the one pushing the notion of a dictatorship. We never mentioned it. We just distrust government altogether. I'm scared of government as it is currently constructed right now. I don't own guns but if the need arises to protect myself I would definitely try to obtain one.


There is so much supporting information on HAARP, so many whistle blowers that its crazy. I use to argue with people about Visitors from another planet not only being true but more likely then not. That was when the government was telling their good people that they did not exist.So many story's of back engineering technology from other worldly beings. They also have cover-ups for so many projects that are run in secrecy with the tax payers money.
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#202 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:39 pm

yaboynyp wrote: Still waiting for you to enlighten me on how you came to such a widespread conclusion


I'm probably right in that you are ignorant of the most part of American History, but are arrogant and naive enough to believe that you do have knowledge.


Either way, a tool is a tool. Why I stopped speaking to you. I have to repeat everything all over to you again. For the last time, it was your tone and text which showed you were immature. I don't have time for you. Sorry, ask your father
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#203 » by aj49689 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:40 pm

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I really like you, seriously! Your fighting for our rights to be taken from us to bare arms because your scared of getting shot by a crazed gun man. I understand and I'm sorry it scares you so much. I think if you can find people like you and go to those class's you can live a better life my friend. Here are some links I hope help you in your struggles with gun-phobia. We will all pray for you.


http://www.phobia-anxiety.org/
http://www.changethatsrightnow.com/gun-phobia/symptoms/
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valley ... espons.php



I'm just waiting for 21shumpshumpst to attack me for trying to help him. Maybe not tho, maybe he is checking out those websites and realizing he will be fine if Americans own guns.


You are absolutely right. I am the one with the problem.

I see the light now. We should all have guns because of what MIGHT happen. Yes lets. When do I get mine?


According to the US government, its when you can prove your not mentally unstable or ill. One of the only things I can agree with.
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#204 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:44 pm

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So go read about HAARP, engineer. You're the one pushing the notion of a dictatorship. We never mentioned it. We just distrust government altogether. I'm scared of government as it is currently constructed right now. I don't own guns but if the need arises to protect myself I would definitely try to obtain one.


There is so much supporting information on HAARP, so many whistle blowers that its crazy. I use to argue with people about Visitors from another planet not only being true but more likely then not. That was when the government was telling their good people that they did not exist.So many story's of back engineering technology from other worldly beings. They also have cover-ups for so many projects that are run in secrecy with the tax payers money.


It's most certainly backed by Science and Tesla's theory of directed energy. By creating wholes in the Ionosphere they can most certainly manipulate the weather. It's been proven on smaller scales and I don't doubt it can be used on much larger scenarios. Also the HAARP facility in Alaska definitely leads credence to the idea of weather manipulation systems.

You should also research, if you haven't already, about Tesla's directed energy weaponry like lasers that can take out entire cities, and directed energy that will make steel twist and bend.
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#205 » by KnicksScholar24 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:47 pm

I feel embarrassed for this Alex Jones fool. He couldn't even hold a calm, civil debate. He sounds like an insane conspiracy theorists. It was low class how he mocked his accent for no reason.

Whatever fact that didn't fit into his agenda, he claims it was just a "little factoid." But all of his statistics are more important than everyone else.

He also says that a lot of the gun murders in America is between gang members, as if that isn't a big problem. If people have to take his weapons to decrease the amount of gang members that get killed, I'd easily be in favor of taking guns from this moron. He seems like an a**hole that would try to start some war with the government because they did something that he doesn't like.

I didn't even have an opinion on this subject, but this guy certainly makes me less likely to take his side of the argument. He doesn't seem stable or a person that makes good decisions, so it makes me less prone to agree with him, even if the numbers are in his favor (such as violent crime rate increases in areas with gun bans enacted).
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Post#206 » by Pharmcat » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:47 pm

whats the point of anything if you cant have a civil discussion?
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#207 » by carmelo115 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:50 pm

KnicksScholar24 wrote:I feel embarrassed for this Alex Jones fool. He couldn't even hold a calm, civil debate. He sounds like an insane conspiracy theorists. It was low class how he mocked his accent for no reason.

Whatever fact that didn't fit into his agenda, he claims it was just a "little factoid." But all of his statistics are more important than everyone else.

He also says that a lot of the gun murders in America is between gang members, as if that isn't a big problem. If people have to take his weapons to decrease the amount of gang members that get killed, I'd easily be in favor of taking guns from this moron. He seems like an a**hole that would try to start some war with the government because they did something that he doesn't like.

I didn't even have an opinion on this subject, but this guy certainly makes me less likely to take his side of the argument. He doesn't seem stable or a person that makes good decisions, so it makes me less prone to agree with him, even if the numbers are in his favor (such as violent crime rate increases in areas with gun bans enacted).

Alex Jones used to have good information on the behind-the-scenes activities that the Government was doing, I guess you can say he was reliable.

Now all he does is scream and shout doomsday with some info here and there.
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#208 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:51 pm

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So go read about HAARP, engineer. You're the one pushing the notion of a dictatorship. We never mentioned it. We just distrust government altogether. I'm scared of government as it is currently constructed right now. I don't own guns but if the need arises to protect myself I would definitely try to obtain one.


There is so much supporting information on HAARP, so many whistle blowers that its crazy. I use to argue with people about Visitors from another planet not only being true but more likely then not. That was when the government was telling their good people that they did not exist.So many story's of back engineering technology from other worldly beings. They also have cover-ups for so many projects that are run in secrecy with the tax payers money.


It's most certainly backed by Science and Tesla's theory of directed energy. By creating wholes in the Ionosphere they can most certainly manipulate the weather. It's been proven on smaller scales and I don't doubt it can be used on much larger scenarios. Also the HAARP facility in Alaska definitely leads credence to the idea of weather manipulation systems.

You should also research, if you haven't already, about Tesla's directed energy weaponry like lasers that can take out entire cities, and directed energy that will make steel twist and bend.


This is hilarious. Here I will throw both of you a bone.

The reason you guys brought HAARP into the discussion is because at some point you read one of my posts that said something about weather manipulation.

Of course as soon as you guys saw that you tried to be clever and point out that there is this research being conducted (HAARP) to try to prove me wrong about weather manipulation as if I said that it was impossible.

Here is the thing. I never said weather manipulation was impossible or that it was not being investigated.

The reason I brought weather manipulation into the discussion was to ask you guys why on earth are you not lobbying for weather manipulation to stop superstorms because well superstomrs MIGHT HAPPEN and could be destructive to life.

Since your whole "lets keep our guns" premise was due to things that MIGHT HAPPEN.

And you two dummies went on and on about HAARP completely missing the context of which I brought weather manipulation into the discussion.

You asked why I lol and emoticon at your posts? This is why. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#209 » by villaNOVA » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:52 pm

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21shumpshumpst wrote:I find your stance on this topic ignorant because it all boils down to something that may or may not happen and the probability of it happening is so infinitely minute that for you to use it as a leg to stand of just shows how weak your argument is.

As a matter of fact you know what you should be more worried about? A biological attack. Or a superflu. why don't you lobby to corral all the sick because hell a superflu MIGHT HAPPEN.

You know how many things in this world MIGHT HAPPEN?

Why don't you lobby the govt to spend more money on investigating how to manipulate weather since a superstomr 10 times the size of Sandy MIGHT HAPPEN.

Everything with you guys is this MIGHT HAPPEN. Anyone can make such a simple argument.


What might happen is another school shooting. Why change the law, especially a second amendment right, for something that might happen. School shooting happen maybe once every few years. Considering how many schools there are nationwide, I'd say mass school shootings happen at a rare occurrence as well.

As for weather manipulation, go Google HAARP. Take caution though because it involves knowledge of science and understanding, skills you likely lack.

The way gun control laws stand, it isn't a matter of IF, but when. We have no control over exogenous events, but this we do have control over.
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Post#210 » by johnnywishbone » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:52 pm

AndroidMan wrote:it's really just a proxy war between Iran and the US/Israel. The American need Syria weakened so Iran loses another central ally. They want to tighten the noose around Iran so they can begin their invasion. Don't be fooled the Americans and Israeli's are the main one's staging this Syrian conflict.


The whole Iran vs Israel is a sideshow. It gets Netanyahu elected and it helps the Iranian President with his street cred. But don't be confused. Iran is not building a bomb because it wants to nuke Israel. Maybe there are some people within the Iranian government who are for that... but the real reason they want a bomb is to threaten Saudi Arabia with it. That's why the US is so paranoid about Iran getting a bomb. They are worried that the next step would be that Saudi Arabia gets a bomb (they already paid for Pakistan to develop the "Sunni" bomb) and that it would set off of an arms race in the Middle East.

Look at a map of the region. And now look a the Persian Gulf. There is a north side and a south side. There is Sunni on one side and Shia on the other. And they've been fighting this War since the 7th century. The Iranian leadership and the Sauds could give two **** about the plight of the Palestinian people and Jerusalem.
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Post#211 » by villaNOVA » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:53 pm

Pharmcat wrote:whats the point of anything if you cant have a civil discussion?

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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#212 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:53 pm

Pharmcat wrote:whats the point of anything if you cant have a civil discussion?


Not sure if posted in relation tot he thread or AJ on Piers. For the latter, AJ was pissed at getting cut off every few seconds. If you're going to invite someone on your show, at least allow them some courtesy to speak their mind. If you're going to keep cutting them off, then it just shows how it's a staged conversation where the interviewer can cut off comments not agreeable and discuss small factoids that can easily be stated and not asked for. They say the best interviews are the one's where the host allows the guest to really express his inner most thoughts. I don't care about Piers Morgan and what he has to say, otherwise I would actually watch his show. I care about guests that may appear, and if they do give them the courtesy of speaking.

As for the thread, I apologize if my insults were a little too harsh. It's just difficult when you write thoroughly and try to clearly explain yourself to only have an emoticon delivered by someone who's immature. I suppose in that regard, I should be the bigger man.
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#213 » by aj49689 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:54 pm

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There is so much supporting information on HAARP, so many whistle blowers that its crazy. I use to argue with people about Visitors from another planet not only being true but more likely then not. That was when the government was telling their good people that they did not exist.So many story's of back engineering technology from other worldly beings. They also have cover-ups for so many projects that are run in secrecy with the tax payers money.


It's most certainly backed by Science and Tesla's theory of directed energy. By creating wholes in the Ionosphere they can most certainly manipulate the weather. It's been proven on smaller scales and I don't doubt it can be used on much larger scenarios. Also the HAARP facility in Alaska definitely leads credence to the idea of weather manipulation systems.

You should also research, if you haven't already, about Tesla's directed energy weaponry like lasers that can take out entire cities, and directed energy that will make steel twist and bend.


Tesla's research is very interesting to say the least. What gets me the most is how people think the government has handed over all of their knowledge and we the people know everything they do. Its obvious that we don't and still people say, we would of figured it out. Is that why tons of scientist have been killed off in the last few years. If physics says its not possible people really believe that are main stream science is the best it could be. We are simple people with simple minds, those of us that are here to live a pleasureful life only have small perception of reality.
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Post#214 » by Pharmcat » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:55 pm

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Pharmcat wrote:whats the point of anything if you cant have a civil discussion?


Not sure if posted in relation tot he thread or AJ on Piers. For the latter, AJ was pissed at getting cut off every few seconds. If you're going to invite someone on your show, at least allow them some courtesy to speak their mind. If you're going to keep cutting them off, then it just shows how it's a staged conversation where the interviewer can cut off comments not agreeable and discuss small factoids that can easily be stated and not asked for. They say the best interviews are the one's where the host allows the guest to really express his inner most thoughts. I don't care about Piers Morgan and what he has to say, otherwise I would actually watch his show. I care about guests that may appear, and if they do give them the courtesy of speaking.

As for the thread, I apologize if my insults were a little too harsh. It's just difficult when you write thoroughly and try to clearly explain yourself to only have an emoticon delivered by someone who's immature. I suppose in that regard, I should be the bigger man.

cut off?

the dude kept on rambling like a deranged person

one is not going to score points for their side by acting like a fool and not being able to hold a civil discussion
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#215 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:55 pm

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KnicksScholar24 wrote:I feel embarrassed for this Alex Jones fool. He couldn't even hold a calm, civil debate. He sounds like an insane conspiracy theorists. It was low class how he mocked his accent for no reason.

Whatever fact that didn't fit into his agenda, he claims it was just a "little factoid." But all of his statistics are more important than everyone else.

He also says that a lot of the gun murders in America is between gang members, as if that isn't a big problem. If people have to take his weapons to decrease the amount of gang members that get killed, I'd easily be in favor of taking guns from this moron. He seems like an a**hole that would try to start some war with the government because they did something that he doesn't like.

I didn't even have an opinion on this subject, but this guy certainly makes me less likely to take his side of the argument. He doesn't seem stable or a person that makes good decisions, so it makes me less prone to agree with him, even if the numbers are in his favor (such as violent crime rate increases in areas with gun bans enacted).

Alex Jones used to have good information on the behind-the-scenes activities that the Government was doing, I guess you can say he was reliable.

Now all he does is scream and shout doomsday with some info here and there.


He does still present some credible info and topics, but you are right. You can't take everything he does or says at face value. I did like his demolishing of Piers though. That was legendary.
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Post#216 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:55 pm

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Pharmcat wrote:whats the point of anything if you cant have a civil discussion?



As for the thread, I apologize if my insults were a little too harsh. It's just difficult when you write thoroughly and try to clearly explain yourself to only have an emoticon delivered by someone who's immature. I suppose in that regard, I should be the bigger man.

Read the last post I made and realize why. :lol: :lol:
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#217 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:56 pm

21shumpshumpst wrote:This is hilarious. Here I will throw both of you a bone.

The reason you guys brought HAARP into the discussion is because at some point you read one of my posts that said something about weather manipulation.

Of course as soon as you guys saw that you tried to be clever and point out that there is this research being conducted (HAARP) to try to prove me wrong about weather manipulation as if I said that it was impossible.

Here is the thing. I never said weather manipulation was impossible or that it was not being investigated.

The reason I brought weather manipulation into the discussion was to ask you guys why on earth are you not lobbying for weather manipulation to stop superstorms because well superstomrs MIGHT HAPPEN and could be destructive to life.

Since your whole "lets keep our guns" premise was due to things that MIGHT HAPPEN.

And you two dummies went on and on about HAARP completely missing the context of which I brought weather manipulation into the discussion.

You asked why I lol and emoticon at your posts? This is why. :lol: :lol: :lol:


We talked about HAARp because we wanted to talk about HAARP. Another thing we wanted is to not talk to you, which I will stop doing after this post and recommend others to do as well. Trolls love the attention, and I will supply you no attention from now on.
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Post#218 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:58 pm

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21shumpshumpst wrote:This is hilarious. Here I will throw both of you a bone.

The reason you guys brought HAARP into the discussion is because at some point you read one of my posts that said something about weather manipulation.

Of course as soon as you guys saw that you tried to be clever and point out that there is this research being conducted (HAARP) to try to prove me wrong about weather manipulation as if I said that it was impossible.

Here is the thing. I never said weather manipulation was impossible or that it was not being investigated.

The reason I brought weather manipulation into the discussion was to ask you guys why on earth are you not lobbying for weather manipulation to stop superstorms because well superstomrs MIGHT HAPPEN and could be destructive to life.

Since your whole "lets keep our guns" premise was due to things that MIGHT HAPPEN.

And you two dummies went on and on about HAARP completely missing the context of which I brought weather manipulation into the discussion.

You asked why I lol and emoticon at your posts? This is why. :lol: :lol: :lol:


We talked about HAARp because we wanted to talk about HAARP. Another thing we wanted is to not talk to you, which I will stop doing after this post and recommend others to do as well. Trolls love the attention, and I will supply you no attention from now on.

Do you want me to quote you and show how the very first time you brought HAARP was after I had asked why you don't lobby for weather manipulatoin.

Not only that but you quoted my post?

Seriously? Because I can do that. ROFL this is too easy. :lol: :lol:
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Re: OT: Alex Jones freaks out on CNN 

Post#219 » by AndroidMan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:00 pm

Pharmcat wrote:cut off?

the dude kept on rambling like a deranged person

one is not going to score points for their side by acting like a fool and not being able to hold a civil discussion


Piers did cut him off. When Alex attacked his credibility in the whole hacking scandal Pier's cut him offf. When Alex tried to explain what weapons causes the most deaths, Piers cut him off. A good interviewer's job is to hodl back and let the guest go. Piers wanted to control the conversation and make sure he had the control. AJ wasn't having it.
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Post#220 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:00 pm

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21shumpshumpst wrote:I find your stance on this topic ignorant because it all boils down to something that may or may not happen and the probability of it happening is so infinitely minute that for you to use it as a leg to stand of just shows how weak your argument is.

As a matter of fact you know what you should be more worried about? A biological attack. Or a superflu. why don't you lobby to corral all the sick because hell a superflu MIGHT HAPPEN.

You know how many things in this world MIGHT HAPPEN?

Why don't you lobby the govt to spend more money on investigating how to manipulate weather since a superstomr 10 times the size of Sandy MIGHT HAPPEN.

Everything with you guys is this MIGHT HAPPEN. Anyone can make such a simple argument.


What might happen is another school shooting. Why change the law, especially a second amendment right, for something that might happen. School shooting happen maybe once every few years. Considering how many schools there are nationwide, I'd say mass school shootings happen at a rare occurrence as well.

As for weather manipulation, go Google HAARP. Take caution though because it involves knowledge of science and understanding, skills you likely lack.



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