John Wall Has Gotten FAT
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John Wall's gravitational pull should leave Beal open a lot.
But for real I don't think this is a problem...yet. He will most likely get back to lean and defined though it's a bit disappointing to see him let himself go. I doubt it's as bad as those crap quality pictures make it look, especially that first one.
But for real I don't think this is a problem...yet. He will most likely get back to lean and defined though it's a bit disappointing to see him let himself go. I doubt it's as bad as those crap quality pictures make it look, especially that first one.
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Raymond Felton is unimpressed.
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Come on, this isn't like Lamar Odom weight gain or Felton in Portland. That extra weight will be gone quick.
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LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.
Muscle is heavier than fat (edit: by volume), so he could have had muscle turn to fat without gaining weight, then gain 7-lbs of fat on top of that.
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Losing the fat should be easy. Problem is that he also lost muscle if he really didn't do a whole lot.
edit: I honestly thought he wanted to turn his career around. Not saying he can't or won't but if he was really into it, he would still be in great shape (like Rose).
edit: I honestly thought he wanted to turn his career around. Not saying he can't or won't but if he was really into it, he would still be in great shape (like Rose).
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He'll lose that very quickly. With the amount of work these guys do, once he's back at full health I could see him being in shape within a month
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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:MeloisMVP wrote:
Here's another player below that's been out rehabbing a leg injury like Wall:
It's obvious that one guy has been working, while the other hasn't.
To be fair to John, people can run and do any number of cardio workouts around 4 months afteran acl surgery if I'm not mistaken (it takes longer to be cleared for high impact work like cutting and plyometrics though). So that means Rose has likely been cleared for jogging and track work for months. Wall was just cleared for light impact work a few weeks ago. That's not to say that John should necessarily be in the condition that he's in now (although he'll be fine from a cardio perspective in a few weeks I'd bet), but Rose has definitely been able to do significantly more floor work than John over these last few months.
It should be noted that John's diet has been terrible from day one with the Wizards. He's like Chad Ochocinco in that he eats tons of crap every day, it's just that he's incredibly active throughout the week so the junk food doesnt stick to him like it does to us. It doesn't surprise me that without the freedom to do the type of work that he's known for in DC that he'd pick up weight assuming he didnt make any alterations to his diet.
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more stress on his knee
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He's a professional athlete with unlimited resources.. give him a couple of weeks.
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Not to say he won't get fit in a timely manner, but letting yourself go and gaining that much fat is definitely Wall's fault, not his injury's. It's worrisome, because you generally don't see that kind of fat gain from such a young player, injury or not. Usually it's older players with wider frames, who didn't exercise in the offseason (Zbo, Shaq, Melo, Odom).
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DCsOwn wrote:BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:MeloisMVP wrote:
Here's another player below that's been out rehabbing a leg injury like Wall:
It's obvious that one guy has been working, while the other hasn't.
To be fair to John, people can run and do any number of cardio workouts around 4 months afteran acl surgery if I'm not mistaken (it takes longer to be cleared for high impact work like cutting and plyometrics though). So that means Rose has likely been cleared for jogging and track work for months. Wall was just cleared for light impact work a few weeks ago. That's not to say that John should necessarily be in the condition that he's in now (although he'll be fine from a cardio perspective in a few weeks I'd bet), but Rose has definitely been able to do significantly more floor work than John over these last few months.
It should be noted that John's diet has been terrible from day one with the Wizards. He's like Chad Ochocinco in that he eats tons of crap every day, it's just that he's incredibly active throughout the week so the junk food doesnt stick to him like it does to us. It doesn't surprise me that without the freedom to do the type of work that he's known for in DC that he'd pick up weight assuming he didnt make any alterations to his diet.
Rose has been working the entire time, though. I'm not trying to bash Wall, but I really hoped that he was serious about taking his game to another level. Here's Rose below doing the upper-body work that Wall should have also been doing:
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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:DCsOwn wrote:BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:Here's another player below that's been out rehabbing a leg injury like Wall:
It's obvious that one guy has been working, while the other hasn't.
To be fair to John, people can run and do any number of cardio workouts around 4 months afteran acl surgery if I'm not mistaken (it takes longer to be cleared for high impact work like cutting and plyometrics though). So that means Rose has likely been cleared for jogging and track work for months. Wall was just cleared for light impact work a few weeks ago. That's not to say that John should necessarily be in the condition that he's in now (although he'll be fine from a cardio perspective in a few weeks I'd bet), but Rose has definitely been able to do significantly more floor work than John over these last few months.
It should be noted that John's diet has been terrible from day one with the Wizards. He's like Chad Ochocinco in that he eats tons of crap every day, it's just that he's incredibly active throughout the week so the junk food doesnt stick to him like it does to us. It doesn't surprise me that without the freedom to do the type of work that he's known for in DC that he'd pick up weight assuming he didnt make any alterations to his diet.
Rose has been working the entire time, though. I'm not trying to bash Wall, but I really hoped that he was serious about taking his game to another level. Here's Rose below doing the upper-body work that Wall should have also been doing:
I think the excess muscle weight might have played a factor in Wall's knee injury. He's fairly built for a 6'4 pg, once he gets back in shape I'd like to see him lose 4-5 lbs of additional weight from last years playing weight.
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call.me.dude wrote:Losing the fat should be easy. Problem is that he also lost muscle if he really didn't do a whole lot.
edit: I honestly thought he wanted to turn his career around. Not saying he can't or won't but if he was really into it, he would still be in great shape (like Rose).
Yeah, I read an ESPN Magazine interview with him in the preseason where he sounded motivated.
I guess maybe you could make the argument that he got depressed when he found out he'd miss the start of the season, and went all
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BubbaTee wrote:LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.
Muscle is heavier than fat (edit: by volume), so he could have had muscle turn to fat without gaining weight, then gain 7-lbs of fat on top of that.
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Is the 1st pic Wall or Felton?
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even with those other pictures shown, he definitely doesn't have six-pack anymore. Which is ridiculous.
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LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.
Not necessarily.
When you have an ectomorph body type, and normally have a lower body fat %, you look a lot more bloated and out of shape when you gain a few pounds more than you should have. Particularly if it's all bad weight gain, like eating junk food.
But the flipside is that with 4-6 weeks of focus on strength, conditioning and flexibility, as well as diet, you will lose it almost as quickly as you gained it.
That's why you see a lot of basketball players show up out of shape. They oscillate between being extremely health-conscious and, when they have downtime, pigging out. But their body is used to exercising, and responds very quickly to rigorous workouts.
The bigger problem with something like that is it hints that Wall is a bit of a mental midget, which, of course, is the knock.
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Muscle and fat are two different things... one doesn't become the other.BubbaTee wrote:LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.
Muscle is heavier than fat (edit: by volume), so he could have had muscle turn to fat without gaining weight, then gain 7-lbs of fat on top of that.
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