Heats bench score a combined 13 points. Only 3 players. Loss

[DieHardBallFan]

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There is absolutely no excuse for this. This will be our downfall.

They are averaging a low 27ppg on 44%. This is among the leagues worst.

Anoyne who has followed the Heat the last 2 years know their bench is their achilles.

We cannot repeat playing like this..cannot.

[imchillin]

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There is absolutely no excuse for this. This will be our downfall.

They are averaging a low 27ppg on 44%. This is among the leagues worst.

Anoyne who has followed the Heat the last 2 years know their bench is their achilles.

We cannot repeat playing like this..cannot.

our bench is old Ray, he only really plays good at home.
Miller should have retired or worked on his back or whatever
Cole is too green and his ball iq is bad
Spo doesnt even play Rashard
Joel can only defend and is too short to really be impactful on the boards or blocks

I cant even complain, we don't have the money, we have to develop what we have..that is all..

[Pimpwerx]

This is the best bench we've had in the Big3 era. There's only so much we can do with the new CBA. The other owners hamstrung us. Our bench was very productive when we played Shard, but then everyone complained that we gave up too many points. Now the second unit isn't as productive, but we're not conceding as many points. Yin and yang. PEACE.

[EscapoTHB]

The bench isn't important in the playoffs. That's why we've been to two straight finals with the worst bench in the east among playoffs teams.

That said this is the best bench of the big three era.

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[hellla]

The bench isn't important in the playoffs. That's why we've been to two straight finals with the worst bench in the east among playoffs teams.

That said this is the best bench of the big three era.

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You've been to two striaght finals because of LeBron James. Bench players still matter. You expect your starting 5 to do all the work?

[EscapoTHB]

The bench isn't important in the playoffs. That's why we've been to two straight finals with the worst bench in the east among playoffs teams.

That said this is the best bench of the big three era.

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You've been to two striaght finals because of LeBron James. Bench players still matter. You expect your starting 5 to do all the work?

Lebron still plays here. Bench still doesn't matter.

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[LeChosen1]

I dont know what people expected when your top 3 heavy, I assume most people thought Heat would dominate Reg Season and Playoffs with low Difficulty, and wouldnt have to rely on a bench as much as other teams

[narmerguy]

The bench isn't important in the playoffs. That's why we've been to two straight finals with the worst bench in the east among playoffs teams.

That said this is the best bench of the big three era.

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You've been to two striaght finals because of LeBron James. Bench players still matter. You expect your starting 5 to do all the work?

It would be nice if our starting 5 did a lot of work but only 3/5 starting 5 can consistently do work .

[King_John]

Too many problems right now. Besides our rebouding issues there comes also the inability of our bench to score the basketball. I feel sorry for LeBron and D-Wade (not so much Bosh because he really doesn t help with our rebound problems and he should). It is basically a 2 men game right now. And on side note Ray Allen is done. Seriously gets his ass right next to Rashard Lewis on the bench.

[DieHardBallFan]

Too many problems right now. Besides our rebouding issues there comes also the inability of our bench to score the basketball. I feel sorry for LeBron and D-Wade (not so much Bosh because he really doesn t help with our rebound problems and he should). It is basically a 2 men game right now. And on side note Ray Allen is done. Seriously gets his ass right next to Rashard Lewis on the bench.

Sigh. Bosh does everything the team needs, other then Lebron, Bosh by far does the most work on the team. In some cases I would say he does more considering Lebron rarely sets picks or help defends as much as Bosh. We uncover a weakness and immediately people jump to blame Chris for not making up for that weakness. Not to even mention he averages 8rpg.

What's next? Bosh must hand out towels and Gatorade?

[imchillin]

Too many problems right now. Besides our rebouding issues there comes also the inability of our bench to score the basketball. I feel sorry for LeBron and D-Wade (not so much Bosh because he really doesn t help with our rebound problems and he should). It is basically a 2 men game right now. And on side note Ray Allen is done. Seriously gets his ass right next to Rashard Lewis on the bench.

Sigh. Bosh does everything the team needs, other then Lebron, Bosh by far does the most work on the team. In some cases I would say he does more considering Lebron rarely sets picks or help defends as much as Bosh. We uncover a weakness and immediately people jump to blame Chris for not making up for that weakness. Not to even mention he averages 8rpg.

What's next? Bosh must hand out towels and Gatorade?

whaaaaaa? Bosh does more than Lebron? Go sit in a corner.

[Chosen01]

Seriously, not even close. The work LeBron does is a lot more than Bosh, I mean the guy is basically leading the Heat in virtually every stat. LeBron is basically the PG, SF and Center of this team.

Bosh is averaging less boards than LeBron, that's not acceptable. Even he said that his goal was to get 10 boards a game. The thing is, a lot of times I don't see Bosh box out and thus you see teams literally picking rebounds around him.

[SweetTouch]

Too many problems right now. Besides our rebouding issues there comes also the inability of our bench to score the basketball. I feel sorry for LeBron and D-Wade (not so much Bosh because he really doesn t help with our rebound problems and he should). It is basically a 2 men game right now. And on side note Ray Allen is done. Seriously gets his ass right next to Rashard Lewis on the bench.

Sigh. Bosh does everything the team needs, other then Lebron, Bosh by far does the most work on the team. In some cases I would say he does more considering Lebron rarely sets picks or help defends as much as Bosh. We uncover a weakness and immediately people jump to blame Chris for not making up for that weakness. Not to even mention he averages 8rpg.

What's next? Bosh must hand out towels and Gatorade?

What?
NTP = No Tengo Palabras

For what you just wrote. Hopefully u forgot the green font

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[Slot Machine]

Seriously, not even close. The work LeBron does is a lot more than Bosh, I mean the guy is basically leading the Heat in virtually every stat. LeBron is basically the PG, SF and Center of this team.

Bosh is averaging less boards than LeBron, that's not acceptable. Even he said that his goal was to get 10 boards a game. The thing is, a lot of times I don't see Bosh box out and thus you see teams literally picking rebounds around him.

Yeah, there was a really egregious one yesterday where after a missed shot, Bosh watched the ball bounce up, didn't box out and let Paul George run right by him and get the tip in.

Obviously, it's not all Bosh's fault but he's averaging something like 6 rpg in the past few games. That's unacceptable.

[DWadeno3]

Why are we discussing Bosh now when the Big Three aren't the problem? If anything, I'd like to see Wade and Bosh log around 35 minutes a night and have the attempt more shots. Given that D-Wade and CB have fairly high USG% (29.1 and 22.9 respectively), their shot attempts are fairly low (15.2 and 12.2 respectively). Given that the Big Three are by far our most efficient players, I want them to have more attempts a game. While Wade shoots 51.1% from the field and Bosh is at 54.7%, Chalmers for example is 39.0% from the field on just 6.2 shot attempts while Cole is at 37.3% on 5.1 attempts. Add Shane's 37.8% on 5.2 attempts to it and you'll get a feel for why we struggle offensively at times.

We tried the Lewis experiment, but while he helped us offensively, his defensive struggles have led to his benching. Thus, the only thing I can think of is more shot attempts for the Big Three, Wade and Bosh in particular, since LeBron's 18.6 attempts are at the level you'd like the other guys' shot attempts to be. I'm tired of us kicking it out for shooters who are very inconsistent and who continue to take semi-contested shots even though they haven't been hitting anything. Other teams are successful with running their offense through a select amount of players, so given that we will never have the depth the Spurs, Clippers or Celtics have, we'll have to take that route too. We are top heavy, that's a minus in terms of depth, but a plus in terms of talent and we should play to that strength instead of being in love with the three point shot.

[DieHardBallFan]

Seriously, not even close. The work LeBron does is a lot more than Bosh, I mean the guy is basically leading the Heat in virtually every stat. LeBron is basically the PG, SF and Center of this team.

Bosh is averaging less boards than LeBron, that's not acceptable. Even he said that his goal was to get 10 boards a game. The thing is, a lot of times I don't see Bosh box out and thus you see teams literally picking rebounds around him.

Sometimes I feel like most fans almost literally just look at their t.v when someone either scores a basket or passes the ball. And then they go to the stat card at the end of the game and act like they watched the game.

Ive said this before:

For one for you to say Bosh doesn't box out just blows my mind. I won't even TOUCH that one. Just focus on if Bosh "blocks out" next Heat game. Just look.
Bosh does almost everything possible on an NBA floor during a game regardless of what it means his numbers will show. He defends every single pick and roll even if it means running out to half court and sprinting back to the paint. (Coach K said there isn't a player in the world who defends the ball screen better than Chris Bosh) He helps on every help defensive play trusting in his teammates to cover his back. He sets some of the best picks in the league. He plays decoy for a whole quarter, running all over the court, taking hits etc if it means Lebron or Wade will get theirs. He always looks for the open man before forcing his own. He does whatever it takes to get his team the victory knowing there will be kids like you thinking he "isn't rebounding enough" or not appreciating what he is doing.. With all that aside he is still averaging 17/7/2 on a top 10 55%FG as the 3rd best player on the team and someone who gets maybe 3 plays ran for him an entire game if he's lucky.

[WWsum]

There's some over-reaction here.
Ray and Shane had a bad game. (And Shane had a number of those recently) But calling Ray trash is wrong. He has played pretty well.

I would like Spo to play some Rashard in a game like this. He has not played well on defense but that's from the beg of the season when nobody else was playing on that side of the floor. And he needs time to adopt to new system. At least he can still shoot and score.

[EscapoTHB]

Bosh is the problem when we are getting just five boards on nights we are getting killed on the glass.

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