Around the NBA part 2

Pharmcat · Post #1181 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:25 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:Of course, the guy we presumably could have had instead of Stoudemire is Lee. At the time, I thought it was a great move, but now I feel dumb.

melo wasnt coming to come to play with lee

he came to play with amare, and tyson followed (tyson declined to go to GS)

Amare started the movement that Lee couldnt have

Quick Kick · Post #1182 » by **Quick Kick** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:01 am

Pharmcat the voice of reason.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1183 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:04 am

Pharmcat wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:Of course, the guy we presumably could have had instead of Stoudemire is Lee. At the time, I thought it was a great move, but now I feel dumb.

melo wasnt coming to come to play with lee

he came to play with amare, and tyson followed (tyson declined to go to GS)

Amare started the movement that Lee couldnt have

So even though every GM in the league knew Amare was damaged goods, Melo thought he was the 2nd piece of a championship duo?

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1184 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:06 am

ibraheim718 wrote:Low turnovers is the new ball movement on the board. Last few years it was all about "move the ball" "move the ball" this year it's all about "don't turn the ball over" "don't turn the ball over".

There have been some great teams that turned the ball over all the time. The 2008 Celtics were 27th in the league in turnovers. The first Heat championship was 16th the second 23rd.. the 2003 Spurs were 23rd. The 94 rockets were 17th the 95 Rockets were 19th..

You don't want to encourage turning the ball over of course.. but not turning the ball over doesn't necessarily equate to a championship.

Low TO's are especially important when the top dogs, Miami and OKC, excel at scoring in transition.

Pharmcat · Post #1185 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:41 am

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:Of course, the guy we presumably could have had instead of Stoudemire is Lee. At the time, I thought it was a great move, but now I feel dumb.

melo wasnt coming to come to play with lee

he came to play with amare, and tyson followed (tyson declined to go to GS)

Amare started the movement that Lee couldnt have

So even though every GM in the league knew Amare was damaged goods, Melo thought he was the 2nd piece of a championship duo?

injuries are part of the game

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1186 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:20 am

IMO, Melo came to NY cause he saw all the articles speculating about Lebron and NY and thought "that could be me."

ibraheim718 · Post #1187 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:45 am

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:Low turnovers is the new ball movement on the board. Last few years it was all about "move the ball" "move the ball" this year it's all about "don't turn the ball over" "don't turn the ball over".

There have been some great teams that turned the ball over all the time. The 2008 Celtics were 27th in the league in turnovers. The first Heat championship was 16th the second 23rd.. the 2003 Spurs were 23rd. The 94 rockets were 17th the 95 Rockets were 19th..

You don't want to encourage turning the ball over of course.. but not turning the ball over doesn't necessarily equate to a championship.

Low TO's are especially important when the top dogs, Miami and OKC, excel at scoring in transition.

You are aware than you can score in transition off of missed shots.. especially missed jump shots right?

KnickSon75 · Post #1188 » by **KnickSon75** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:59 am

Portland being aggresive looks like they playing Miami hard today, hope they win big get that shine of the Knicks game.

Fat Kat · Post #1189 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:02 am

Tracy McGrady's team in China has a 2-17 record, and he recently threatened to leave if the league's officiating doesn't improve.

Jay10 · Post #1190 » by **Jay10** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:23 am

portland is definitely trying to give the pistons a run for their money when it comes to calling timeouts

ITGM · Post #1191 » by **ITGM** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:41 am

Fat Kat wrote:
Tracy McGrady's team in China has a 2-17 record, and he recently threatened to leave if the league's officiating doesn't improve.

NBA refs officiate games in China as well?

Bran Fast Hands · Post #1192 » by **Bran Fast Hands** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:02 am

Go the Blazers. I like that team, they need to add some decent players to their bench tho, once they do that they can be a force to be reckoned with in the west for the next few seasons.

CrazyKnicks · Post #1193 » by **CrazyKnicks** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:12 am

Matthews is insane

KingzAndQueenz · Post #1194 » by **KingzAndQueenz** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:12 am

at least the heats about to lose

Bran Fast Hands · Post #1195 » by **Bran Fast Hands** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 am

Hmmmm Ray Allen game winner coming up?

CrazyKnicks · Post #1196 » by **CrazyKnicks** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:17 am

Knicks are losing but so is Mia I guess.

KingzAndQueenz · Post #1197 » by **KingzAndQueenz** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:17 am

all in all, only half a game behind Miami?

I expect the Knicks to roll through after allstar break

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #1198 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:19 am

KingzAndQueenz wrote:all in all, only half a game behind Miami?

I expect the Knicks to roll through after allstar break

Yep. Felton melo back and we good. Heat relatively healthy too.

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ijag23 · Post #1199 » by **ijag23** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:20 am

No great teams in the East.

Bran Fast Hands · Post #1200 » by **Bran Fast Hands** » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:21 am

ijag23 wrote:No great teams in the East.

.......In the last couple of weeks, yeah.