Around the NBA part 2

[K_ick_God]

The last time i check Jennings and Felton are pretty even around the rim in %'s.

Dont care about the skill, i care about the conversion....they both only covert 54% of their shots round the rim and most of Jennings shot dont come from there, thus his 40% from the filed.

Felton's overall numbers mean nothing to me really. First of all, I trust my eyes. But more importantly, his overall numbers include a) a very nice start with hot numbers and b) atrocious play more recently.

Maybe if the Knicks are lucky they'll get something in the middle for the playoffs. I think it will clearly shade toward the bad. Which, it goes without saying, is not good enough.

[Fat Kat]

The last time i check Jennings and Felton are pretty even around the rim in %'s.

Dont care about the skill, i care about the conversion....they both only covert 54% of their shots round the rim and most of Jennings shot dont come from there, thus his 40% from the filed.

Felton's overall numbers mean nothing to me really. First of all, I trust my eyes. But more importantly, his overall numbers include a) a very nice start with hot numbers and b) atrocious play more recently.

Maybe if the Knicks are lucky they'll get something in the middle for the playoffs. I think it will clearly shade toward the bad. Which, it goes without saying, is not good enough.

I thought that you weren't watching the games KG.

[K_ick_God]

The last time i check Jennings and Felton are pretty even around the rim in %'s.

Dont care about the skill, i care about the conversion....they both only covert 54% of their shots round the rim and most of Jennings shot dont come from there, thus his 40% from the filed.

Felton's overall numbers mean nothing to me really. First of all, I trust my eyes. But more importantly, his overall numbers include a) a very nice start with hot numbers and b) atrocious play more recently.

Maybe if the Knicks are lucky they'll get something in the middle for the playoffs. I think it will clearly shade toward the bad. Which, it goes without saying, is not good enough.

I thought that you weren't watching the games KG.

I watched about four games this year. Yeah they happened to be Felton's bad ones. But those were the ones he turned in most recently. I am also pretty familiar with Ray's line of work.

[Quick Kick]

Id actually do that deal if we could keep Smith or Shump.

[Thugger HBC]

The last time i check Jennings and Felton are pretty even around the rim in %'s.

Dont care about the skill, i care about the conversion....they both only covert 54% of their shots round the rim and most of Jennings shot dont come from there, thus his 40% from the filed.

Felton's overall numbers mean nothing to me really. First of all, I trust my eyes. But more importantly, his overall numbers include a) a very nice start with hot numbers and b) atrocious play more recently.

Maybe if the Knicks are lucky they'll get something in the middle for the playoffs. I think it will clearly shade toward the bad. Which, it goes without saying, is not good enough.

Jennings has no such record of any good play that has won games for any stretch.

I have no issue with admitting that Felton has been subpar at times, but Jennings has been subpar since draft day.

[JustaKnickFan]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

[K_ick_God]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

[Pharmcat]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

bruised hands

[21shumpshumpst]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

Both of his hands had bone bruises. He started sucking as soon as that happened.

[JustaKnickFan]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

Bruised hands which really affected his passing, shooting, and even just dribbling the ball.

[21shumpshumpst]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

Bruised hands which really affected his passing, shooting, and even just dribbling the ball.

Other than that he was just fine.

[K_ick_God]

Are you kidding? So you don't take stats into account when debating Felton vs Jennings? How about record and Felton leading the Knicks to a 20-8 record before getting injured while the Bucks are fighting for the 8th seed? How about offense efficiency and how the Knicks are ranked #2 with him as the PG. Also, Felton is pretty clutch, too. He ended up with the game winning assist to Kidd in the Brooklyn game, and let snot forget about that buzzer beater he had a few years ago against Toronto.

As for Felton's "atrocious play more recently" he has been playing hurt. Look at Kyle Lowry's stats and you'll see the same thing, fact is point guards don't play well when they're injured.

What injury did Felton have before the pinkie fracture?

Bruised hands which really affected his passing, shooting, and even just dribbling the ball.

I didn't know about that, admittedly. We'll see. I'm just not a believer. But since the Knicks are not going to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick or anything, I hope I'm wrong.

[j4remi]

I didn't know about that, admittedly. We'll see. I'm just not a believer. But since the Knicks are not going to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick or anything, I hope I'm wrong.

I'm gonna be honest...I look at Felton and Jennings and I see an inordinate amount of similarities but Felton's veteran savvy makes him a better fit for a veteran team...meanwhile Jennings has come off as pure chucker to me.

[JustaKnickFan]

I didn't know about that, admittedly. We'll see. I'm just not a believer. But since the Knicks are not going to miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick or anything, I hope I'm wrong.

I'm gonna be honest...I look at Felton and Jennings and I see an inordinate amount of similarities but Felton's veteran savvy makes him a better fit for a veteran team...meanwhile Jennings has come off as pure chucker to me.

One big difference is that Felton can actually finish with both hands, while Jennings has a lot of trouble going to his right.

[J0rdan4life42o]

For this team, Jennings wouldn't have that much bigger of an impact over Felton's role that would warrant butchering the team's guard depth...lets remember, NYs perimeter defense has been atrocious, dumping 3 good to excellent (Shumpert) defensive guards for Jennings is basically waving the white flag for this season. Illysova looks like his talent left the moment he signed his contract and Dunleavy would essentially play the same role as Novak...what's the point in swapping the two?

Felton may not be a better player than Jennings, but on this team, with the core guys healthy, their impact would be fairly identical. The things that this team would need to really improve at the point, Jennings really doesn't do any better than Felton...they can both push the ball and get into the paint adequately...both guys can drive and dish...I would actually say that Felton has a better handle on the p&r than Jennings... I really don't see the benefit here at all. Jennings is more dynamic, is craftier with the ball and I like his range, but again, none of those skills would benefit the makeup of this team, especially not enough to lose Shumpert/Smith.

[Thugger HBC]

The Hawks have 20 points at the half.....

[Pharmcat]

It's astonishing how many former Knicks are playing well this year.

none of them are stars that can carry you

they'll have nice stretches but not consistent enough

[Pharmcat]

The Hawks have 20 points at the half.....

[denterprise]

The Hawks have 20 points at the half.....

I am not laughing if the Bulls defense is getting better than it already is.

[Bran Fast Hands]

I'm shocked how little a lottery team like Dallas looks to use it's future hall of famer in it's offense.