Lovie is fired

[patryk7754]

I meant they would be a wildcard team only if vick signs with the Chiefs. Same with Bowe (he might stay if Vick signs)

[The 6ft Hurdle]

Is anyone impressed by the coaching list so far?

For me, that's just too many rookie HC candidates for a veteran team. Hopefully that's all smokescreening.

I wouldn't necessarily be sad with choosing a McCoy or a Chip Kelly especially if the season unfolds favorably, but there is not much reason a priori to be optimistic.

For everyone impressed with Phil Emery's speech, Vinny Del Negro impressed with his talking as well (and I'm one of the few who didn't think VDN was that bad at Chicago).

Perhaps Phil Emery is smart, but if he doesn't get a veteran coach and retains the key guys, I wouldn't be that optimistic.

Very impressed. Honestly, this is one of the best selection of coaches in years. Again, there's a reason success from former HC's is rare; they fail for a reason. Great HC's don't just become available unless they retire and then come back, in which case the next question becomes if their schemes are now up to date and if they have the same passion that they once had.

The selection of both coordinators and even college coaches is very good as well, so no I COMPLETELY disagree with you.

Hell, even with HC's, how often do you see guys like Gruden or Reid available? Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.

I'm not quite sure how you've qualified that this is the "best selection of coaches" when no one we have appeared to be targeting has coached a single NFL game in their career. For all we know they could be the equivalent of the 2000 NBA draft. Perhaps they're the best-"looking" crop in years, but I'm not even sure how that's determined.

I am excited about the HC's available, but it doesn't seem like at the outset the brass is even targeting them, and that's where my lack of enthusiasm sets in. Really, I hope Emery has a better plan than just discard and hope things change.

[kozelkid]

Is anyone impressed by the coaching list so far?

For me, that's just too many rookie HC candidates for a veteran team. Hopefully that's all smokescreening.

I wouldn't necessarily be sad with choosing a McCoy or a Chip Kelly especially if the season unfolds favorably, but there is not much reason a priori to be optimistic.

For everyone impressed with Phil Emery's speech, Vinny Del Negro impressed with his talking as well (and I'm one of the few who didn't think VDN was that bad at Chicago).

Perhaps Phil Emery is smart, but if he doesn't get a veteran coach and retains the key guys, I wouldn't be that optimistic.

Very impressed. Honestly, this is one of the best selection of coaches in years. Again, there's a reason success from former HC's is rare; they fail for a reason. Great HC's don't just become available unless they retire and then come back, in which case the next question becomes if their schemes are now up to date and if they have the same passion that they once had.

The selection of both coordinators and even college coaches is very good as well, so no I COMPLETELY disagree with you.

Hell, even with HC's, how often do you see guys like Gruden or Reid available? Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.

I'm not quite sure how you've qualified that this is the "best selection of coaches" when no one we have appeared to be targeting has coached a single NFL game in their career. For all we know they could be the equivalent of the 2000 NBA draft. Perhaps they're the best-"looking" crop in years, but I'm not even sure how that's determined.

I am excited about the HC's available, but it doesn't seem like at the outset the brass is even targeting them, and that's where my lack of enthusiasm sets in. Really, I hope Emery has a better plan than just discard and hope things change.

Maybe there is a reason for that. Again, there is a reason former HC's usually don't have a job; they aren't very good nor bring anything new to the table.

As for coordinators, there are at least 3-4 from great offenses available.

[The 6ft Hurdle]

There is a reason former HC's usually don't have a job; sometimes the reason may not be a very good one.

No use crying over spilled milk, but man if the objective was to compete in the Super Bowl and we hire a "hot" but novice OC or someone who's been out of the league for so long, chances are not likely for 2013.

Of the coaches still in the playoffs, three, Belicheck, Fox, and Carroll are coaching retreads.

With the exception of Jim Harbaugh, all coaches have 5 or more years of experience as NFL HC.

Jauwanny years 2.0, are ya ready for us?!

[bearadonisdna]

There is a reason former HC's usually don't have a job; sometimes the reason may not be a very good one.

No use crying over spilled milk, but man if the objective was to compete in the Super Bowl and we hire a "hot" but novice OC or someone who's been out of the league for so long, chances are not likely for 2013.

Of the coaches still in the playoffs, three, Belicheck, Fox, and Carroll are coaching retreads.

With the exception of Jim Harbaugh, all coaches have 5 or more years of experience as NFL HC.

Jauwanny years 2.0, are ya ready for us?!

The Bears need the next Mike McCarthy. League golden boy.

[The 6ft Hurdle]

^
I'd definitely like, but even it took him a season before he got a winning season himself. This has to be either an extraordinary coach and/or a sweeping positive change on the offensive line, while keeping the defense in tact.

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Regarding Lovie Smith:

If former Chicago Bears coach Lovie Smith fails to land a head-coaching job elsewhere, he's prepared to sit out the 2013 season because he's not interested in any of the coordinator jobs, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Smith interviewed for head-coaching jobs in Philadelphia, San Diego and Buffalo, but each of those teams selected other candidates.

The only other two coaching vacancies are in Arizona and Jacksonville.

An NFL source recently said that Smith's name hadn't come up during any discussions for the opening with the Jaguars

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/ ... job-source



Regarding Jerry Angelo:

Rich Cimini @RichCimini
#Jets GM update: Angelo fading. Barring a curve ball, it looks like Idzik (2nd interview today), Khan and Cohen. My money is on Idzik.

After searching for more than two weeks, the New York Jets are poised to name their next general manager. They will hire Mike Tannenbaum's replacement as early as Thursday, according to league sources.

The front-runners are John Idzik and Omar Khan, front-office executives from the Seattle Seahawks and Pittsburgh Steelers, respectively, sources said. Jets assistant GM Scott Cohen also is considered a finalist.

Idzik and Khan were brought back for second interviews this week. In fact, Idzik was scheduled to meet Wednesday with team officials. Khan's second interview occurred Tuesday.

The Jets have interviewed no fewer than nine candidates, only two of whom have GM experience -- Jerry Angelo and Ted Sundquist, formerly of the Chicago Bears and Denver Broncos, respectively. Angelo has been involved in follow-up discussions with the team, but he hasn't been invited back for a second interview.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_ ... ources-say

[bearadonisdna]

Lovie screwed himself by interviewing for jobs. The Bears already have to pay the rest of his contract.

If he would have sat out this round of interviews, some losing teams would be dying to talk to Lovie next offseason.
He could have played a 10-6 firing a lot better and seem like he wouldn't just take any job.

[The 6ft Hurdle]

Is anyone impressed by the coaching list so far?

For me, that's just too many rookie HC candidates for a veteran team. Hopefully that's all smokescreening.

I wouldn't necessarily be sad with choosing a McCoy or a Chip Kelly especially if the season unfolds favorably, but there is not much reason a priori to be optimistic.

For everyone impressed with Phil Emery's speech, Vinny Del Negro impressed with his talking as well (and I'm one of the few who didn't think VDN was that bad at Chicago).

Perhaps Phil Emery is smart, but if he doesn't get a veteran coach and retains the key guys, I wouldn't be that optimistic.

Very impressed. Honestly, this is one of the best selection of coaches in years. Again, there's a reason success from former HC's is rare; they fail for a reason. Great HC's don't just become available unless they retire and then come back, in which case the next question becomes if their schemes are now up to date and if they have the same passion that they once had.

The selection of both coordinators and even college coaches is very good as well, so no I COMPLETELY disagree with you.

Hell, even with HC's, how often do you see guys like Gruden or Reid available? Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.

I'm not quite sure how you've qualified that this is the "best selection of coaches" when no one we have appeared to be targeting has coached a single NFL game in their career. For all we know they could be the equivalent of the 2000 NBA draft. Perhaps they're the best-"looking" crop in years, but I'm not even sure how that's determined.

I am excited about the HC's available, but it doesn't seem like at the outset the brass is even targeting them, and that's where my lack of enthusiasm sets in. Really, I hope Emery has a better plan than just discard and hope things change.

Yay, I called it.

[HyMay]

Very impressed. Honestly, this is one of the best selection of coaches in years. Again, there's a reason success from former HC's is rare; they fail for a reason. Great HC's don't just become available unless they retire and then come back, in which case the next question becomes if their schemes are now up to date and if they have the same passion that they once had.

The selection of both coordinators and even college coaches is very good as well, so no I COMPLETELY disagree with you.

Hell, even with HC's, how often do you see guys like Gruden or Reid available? Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.

I'm not quite sure how you've qualified that this is the "best selection of coaches" when no one we have appeared to be targeting has coached a single NFL game in their career. For all we know they could be the equivalent of the 2000 NBA draft. Perhaps they're the best-"looking" crop in years, but I'm not even sure how that's determined.

I am excited about the HC's available, but it doesn't seem like at the outset the brass is even targeting them, and that's where my lack of enthusiasm sets in. Really, I hope Emery has a better plan than just discard and hope things change.

Yay, I called it.

You nailed it. I think Emery has used up his three strikes with cutler contract, hiring tressy, and the Shea project. Tressy should go for his body of work.

[Susan]

I don't mind Emery when it comes to acquiring talent.

Willie Young panned out
Bennett panned out
Marshall panned out
Houston was playing well before his ACL tear
Bushrod has been good

Resigning Jay when we saw McCown outproduce him was bad
Shea was bad
The entire coaching situation was downright terrible. How would this team look with Lovie still here and Trestman (or Norv Turner @ OC) right now? Or Bruce Arians?

Drafting has been above average sans Shea. Fuller, Long and Alshon are all high level picks.

[The 6ft Hurdle]

I don't mind Emery when it comes to acquiring talent.

Willie Young panned out
Bennett panned out
Marshall panned out
Houston was playing well before his ACL tear
Bushrod has been good

Resigning Jay when we saw McCown outproduce him was bad
Shea was bad
The entire coaching situation was downright terrible. How would this team look with Lovie still here and Trestman (or Norv Turner @ OC) right now? Or Bruce Arians?

Drafting has been above average sans Shea. Fuller, Long and Alshon are all high level picks.

As someone either on this board or another mentioned, Emery appears to be a great scout.

However, he hasn't found anyone to properly organize and utilize this talent and struck out horribly with his first hire.

[Friend_Of_Haley]

Jay over Josh in no way goes in the negative column. Give me a **** break. As a whole Emery has done well with talent composition , but to this point has undermined it with the coaching hire. Still not sure what's happening with the offense from last year but the D coaching failure (on simple stuff) is bad enough on its own.

[Susan]

Jay over Josh in no way goes in the negative column. Give me a **** break. As a whole Emery has done well with talent composition , but to this point has undermined it with the coaching hire. Still not sure what's happening with the offense from last year but the D coaching failure (on simple stuff) is bad enough on its own.

Not saying we needed to keep Josh over Jay, but that we saw what **** Josh McCown did with the offense and we saw Jay's level of production, why on earth did we have to give Jay all that cash?

[Friend_Of_Haley]

Because that's what FAs get. His deal will have and has had no negative impact on our ability to compile a team, including signing FA. If he makes it through the deal it's likely to look small. If it doesn't, it's easy to walk away from.


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[BullHeaded]

Jay should have been franchised last year. Neither the coach nor the qb had earned that commitment. They earned another look... but not a long term commitment.

Also, Briggs should have been jettisoned with Lovie or at least by last year. Tucker stinks... don't get me wrong. But the fact that we had to bend over backwards to make the defense make Briggs happy was ridiculous. I don't perceive any real buy in from the guy and when it comes to on field leadership, it really needs to come from a LB and QB... they guys who call the plays. Its nice when guys like Kruetz or Marshall show some leadership chops on their side of the ball or Tillman on the other... but the guys calling the plays are usually the most effective at rallying the unit.

Emery has been improving as a drafter and I like some of the overlooked moves he made like bringing in the analytics guy from STATS or Joe Kim to develop the hand techniques of certain position players. But with the contract he gave Jay and the decision to maintain the same defense we had to appease guys like Briggs, he built in too much inflexibility in the long term. It will be difficult to make a coaching switch at the top because Jay and Trestman are pretty much a package deal and many of the moves we made on defense last year (think the DL) when we had a ton of turnover was to commit to the same defense we had. I don't see how we can get a reset at the QB position or a reset to a different defensive scheme with the commitments we made last offseason. The winning moves were to franchise Jay, trade Briggs for even a low round pick, and get a new DC whom we could start stocking the shelves for according to his scheme.

[NZB2323]

So has Lovie been fired from the Bucs? What's going on here?