Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic?

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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#201 » by Keith Van Horn » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:37 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Word. Let's get back to the meat and potatoes of it, actual basketball talk...

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The Knicks might find themselves as the 5 or 6 seed and another first round exit at this rate.


I really admire how you always want to defend your nets against everybody. Like literally everybody!!!


And what's wrong with that? At least he can call himself a fan who likes to back up his statements with evidence. I don't get why he wouldn't want to defend his team to someone who's dissing them after a victory. :-?
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#202 » by Hijinks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:03 pm

I am not OP, so i don't care what was said in the opening post. There is no such things as the knicks fans or the nets fans. We are individuals who like to root for a sports team!

I just responded to him, because I find it funny, that he quotes about anyone that calls out the nets an tries to disprove their statements.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#203 » by therealbig3 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:31 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:I am not OP, so i don't care what was said in the opening post. There is no such things as the knicks fans or the nets fans. We are individuals who like to root for a sports team!

I just responded to him, because I find it funny, that he quotes about anyone that calls out the nets an tries to disprove their statements.


Yeah, when people are spewing obvious BS about your favorite team, you shouldn't say anything.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#204 » by Nuntius » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:34 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:IWe are individuals who like to root for a sports team!


I agree with this. However, he has every right to defend his team and call out the OP for what he said about his and all the other Atlantic teams.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#205 » by Hijinks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:29 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, when people are spewing obvious BS about your favorite team, you shouldn't say anything.


Don't you put words in my mouth. I never said he shouldn't say anything. In fact i like his passion for his team.
But he ruins his whole solid post with his last sentences aka his own BS!!!

And the Nets are now 12 and 2 under PJ and the Knicks are 6 and 8 during that same span.


Look at the opponents in that time span and tell us the difference, thank you!

The Knicks might find themselves as the 5 or 6 seed and another first round exit at this rate.


Why this hit at the knicks in the end? So your opinion is that, the knicks might be 5th or 6th at the end of regular season, if they don't play better. OK, understandable. But why does that equal another 1st round exit? There is no evidence right there. Just pure hatred for the opponent and simple bias.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#206 » by Trader_Joe » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:10 pm

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The excuses of the Knicks fanbase are so hilarious at times...
oh we didn t had Stat and Shumpert
now stat and Shumpert...oh well we didn t have Felton and the 65-year old Rasheed Wallace
basically you have your best perimeter defender and your second scoring option back...anyou STILL complain about injuries
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Ama're and Shumpert just came back. They're rusty, as expected. Felton is our leader and playmaker. Not having him is huge.

Please.. you guys were much more injured when you started the season on fire and blew out teams like Miami, but you need Felton against us?

Felton in 3 games vs. BK this year:
11-46 (22% overall/12% from 3)
16 assists
12 turnovers

Cost you guys game 1, almost lost you game 2. You won game 3 in spite of him (4-15).

He is a 32% shooter for his career against Deron.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#207 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:14 pm

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therealbig3 wrote:Yeah, when people are spewing obvious BS about your favorite team, you shouldn't say anything.


Don't you put words in my mouth. I never said he shouldn't say anything. In fact i like his passion for his team.
But he ruins his whole solid post with his last sentences aka his own BS!!!

And the Nets are now 12 and 2 under PJ and the Knicks are 6 and 8 during that same span.


Look at the opponents in that time span and tell us the difference, thank you!

The Knicks might find themselves as the 5 or 6 seed and another first round exit at this rate.


Why this hit at the knicks in the end? So your opinion is that, the knicks might be 5th or 6th at the end of regular season, if they don't play better. OK, understandable. But why does that equal another 1st round exit? There is no evidence right there. Just pure hatred for the opponent and simple bias.

With each post you're reaching even harder.

Pure hatred and simple bias? It's a very realistic scenario at this point for the Knicks to fall to the 5th or maybe even 6xth seed and if that were the case it's even likelier they get knocked out first round again.

There's no BS about it.

You want to talk about schedule but the Nets were laying out most of the scrub teams by double digits during that span and also beat the Thunder, Pacers, Hawks and Knicks.

And so what? You can only beat who you play. The Knicks had a relatively easy schedule during their 17 and 5 opening of the season as well with a few good wins peppered in there.

I mean who would have thought I'm discussing the Nets and Knicks in an Atlantic Division thread? :-?

You don't have to pat me on the head like a little kid and patronize me in your other posts either man, you'll see soon enough, this is Brooklyn's division now. You shouldn't act like you're the Heat and we're the Hawks.

And cry about Lopez? Damn dude, it must be sad when you have to resort to this stuff to have an argument. Lopez, the guy playing at a top 12 level on the season being compared to a mediocre point guard and an Amar'e who is a broken shell of himself.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#208 » by PetroNet » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:29 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:I am not OP, so i don't care what was said in the opening post. There is no such things as the knicks fans or the nets fans. We are individuals who like to root for a sports team!

I just responded to him, because I find it funny, that he quotes about anyone that calls out the nets an tries to disprove their statements.


Hold the phone,... you mean on a basketball forum, someone responded to a post, and corrected its validity?

ban him! this is neither the time, place, or medium for such shaningans.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#209 » by DanTown8587 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:36 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:I am not OP, so i don't care what was said in the opening post. There is no such things as the knicks fans or the nets fans. We are individuals who like to root for a sports team!

I just responded to him, because I find it funny, that he quotes about anyone that calls out the nets an tries to disprove their statements.


Here's the funniest part: you didn't say he was wrong. Nor did you attempt to prove he was wrong. Why? Because I don't think you could.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#210 » by PetroNet » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:38 pm

knicksfan87 wrote:
And the Nets are now 12 and 2 under PJ and the Knicks are 6 and 8 during that same span.


Look at the opponents in that time span and tell us the difference, thank you!



Nets last 14 Opponents:

@Milwaukee
Charlotte
Cleveland
@Spurs
@Thunder
@washington
@sacramento
@Philly
Pheonix
Indiana
Toronto
@Atlanta
Atlanta
@New York

Knicks last 14 Opponents

Chicago
Minnesota
@Los Angelas
Pheonix
Sacramento
Portland
San Antonio
@Orlando
boston
@Indiana
Chicago
New Orleans
@detroit
Brooklyn

We played 6 good teams(spurs, indy, atlanta x2, knicks, thunder)

you played 6 good teams(boston, brooklyn, chicago x2, indy, spurs)
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#211 » by JDs_loot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:04 pm

Felton in 3 games vs. BK this year:
11-46 (22% overall/12% from 3)
16 assists
12 turnovers

Cost you guys game 1, almost lost you game 2. You won game 3 in spite of him (4-15).

He is a 32% shooter for his career against Deron.


What's the record with Felton and what's the record without Felton? I keep telling you nyet fans it's not about his shooting. He's a big part of our offense, period.

If that stat is true, and I don't know if it is because you didn't provide a link, it sure as hell ain't because of Deron's D.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#212 » by Indomitable » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:09 pm

Boston is a good team?
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#213 » by Trader_Joe » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:16 pm

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Felton in 3 games vs. BK this year:
11-46 (22% overall/12% from 3)
16 assists
12 turnovers

Cost you guys game 1, almost lost you game 2. You won game 3 in spite of him (4-15).

He is a 32% shooter for his career against Deron.


What's the record with Felton and what's the record without Felton? I keep telling you nyet fans it's not about his shooting. He's a big part of our offense, period.

If that stat is true, and I don't know if it is because you didn't provide a link, it sure as hell ain't because of Deron's D.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... p2=willide

Did you not watch the games with Felton?
He lost you game 1 and nearly lost you game 2.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#214 » by PetroNet » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:33 pm

Felton is a decent player, and more importantly limits kidds minutes and pushes kidd to the SG spot. but he really isnt the huge diference maker knicks fans are making him out to be. he also certainly is not the reason you guys lost last night.

you lost because melo hero-chucked and you guys choked at the end.

you were up by 1 with under 40 seconds to play. if you stop us, you win. you didint, JJ drilled the 2-pointer to make it 85-84. then you had another chance, down 1 with the shotclock off to win it at the buzzer, you didint, melo chucked up an airball.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#215 » by seren » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:33 pm

I am going to go ahead and say no.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#216 » by ricochet » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:55 pm

Are people still bringing up the 2 titles that Knicks won 40 years ago? :lol:
Also, how did the Yankees come into the discussion? :-?

Anyway.. Knicks have to be careful now. They can't relax..
It was only a matter of time before injuries caught up to their old team and everyone came back down to earth shooting wise..
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#217 » by Trader_Joe » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:01 pm

Only thing I have left to add to this thread is that I don't think Boston has a chance anymore.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#218 » by JDs_loot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:04 pm

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What's the record with Felton and what's the record without Felton? I keep telling you nyet fans it's not about his shooting. He's a big part of our offense, period.

If that stat is true, and I don't know if it is because you didn't provide a link, it sure as hell ain't because of Deron's D.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... p2=willide

Did you not watch the games with Felton?
He lost you game 1 and nearly lost you game 2.


So what if he had a couple of bad games against the nets?Again, look at our record with him and without him. He means a lot to the knicks. What don't you understand about that?
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#219 » by Trader_Joe » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:12 pm

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Trader_Joe wrote:
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What's the record with Felton and what's the record without Felton? I keep telling you nyet fans it's not about his shooting. He's a big part of our offense, period.

If that stat is true, and I don't know if it is because you didn't provide a link, it sure as hell ain't because of Deron's D.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... p2=willide

Did you not watch the games with Felton?
He lost you game 1 and nearly lost you game 2.


So what if he had a couple of bad games against the nets?Again, look at our record with him and without him. He means a lot to the knicks. What don't you understand about that?

Because this game was against the Nets and Williams.
He has been atrocious against the Nets this season and terrible against Deron for his career. You think that would have magically changed yesterday?

And come on already... you guys played your best ball earlier this season with much more extensive injuries.. they are part of the game and when your GM targeted older and injury prone players like Kidd, Prigioni, Sheed, KT, Camby, Chandler, Amare/half your roster injuries are to be expected. You guys had Amare and Shumpert back, which you didn't before.

We didn't have Lopez in the narrow game 2 loss either and overall in games 1,2 and 4, I'm guessing we led the games about 80% of the time.
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Re: Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic? 

Post#220 » by JDs_loot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:30 pm

Even if Felton doesn't shoot the ball well, he still ia very important to the team. He is the second most important player on the team. If we had him yesterday we would have won.

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