If you could go back in time...how to handle Bargs?
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Ultimately the issue started when BC inseminated Andrea's mother.
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If we are going to assume that we draft Bargs. Then by the end of year two BC should have made a choice. Bosh or Bargs. I think its really that simple. They tried Bosh with a perimeter poor rebounding defending front court partner Charlie V. It didn't work and anyone with a brain saw it din't work.
So Bosh and Bargs was never going to work. I'm going to assume that drafting a guy #1 and turning him into a 6th man wasn't really an option so its pretty cut and dry. You can't play Bosh and Bargs together and win. So one has to go.
I don't think coaching or paying C or SF or anything else would radically change what Bargs is. Players either have greatness in them and work to bring it out because they have the drive to do it (Dirk, Kobe Nash all working endlessly in the gym ) or you don't . Brags "don't"
So Bosh and Bargs was never going to work. I'm going to assume that drafting a guy #1 and turning him into a 6th man wasn't really an option so its pretty cut and dry. You can't play Bosh and Bargs together and win. So one has to go.
I don't think coaching or paying C or SF or anything else would radically change what Bargs is. Players either have greatness in them and work to bring it out because they have the drive to do it (Dirk, Kobe Nash all working endlessly in the gym ) or you don't . Brags "don't"
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1. Fire Sam Mitchell and hire Dwayne Casey. Some may think Mitchell would have been good for Bargnani, but his realtionship with BC was doomed to failure. BC respects Casey. At the least, Bargs would have learned NBA defence from day one.
2. Avoid force-feeding him starter minutes in his first year, which only led to him settling into the only role he could perform - outside shooting 7-footer. Have him back up Bosh or have Bosh play centre, have him play in a stretch 4 role only, whatever - just don't drive him toward one-dimensional play.
3. Send him to big-man camp before each of his first 3 seasons.
4. Deny him the option to compete with the Italian national team.
5. Enforce a pre-season weight limit - he can't play or get paid unless he makes weight.
6. Give him better media training, and insist he not do foreign language interviews without prior clearance.
7. Extend him at $8mil/year instead of $10mil
8. When he got injured last year, let him stay injured until he was fully ready to return and in game-shape.
9. Permit Ed and Amir to fight him for minutes.
10. Trade him over the past off-season for a Rasho-quality starting 5, a mid-to-late 1st round pick and cap relief.
2. Avoid force-feeding him starter minutes in his first year, which only led to him settling into the only role he could perform - outside shooting 7-footer. Have him back up Bosh or have Bosh play centre, have him play in a stretch 4 role only, whatever - just don't drive him toward one-dimensional play.
3. Send him to big-man camp before each of his first 3 seasons.
4. Deny him the option to compete with the Italian national team.
5. Enforce a pre-season weight limit - he can't play or get paid unless he makes weight.
6. Give him better media training, and insist he not do foreign language interviews without prior clearance.
7. Extend him at $8mil/year instead of $10mil
8. When he got injured last year, let him stay injured until he was fully ready to return and in game-shape.
9. Permit Ed and Amir to fight him for minutes.
10. Trade him over the past off-season for a Rasho-quality starting 5, a mid-to-late 1st round pick and cap relief.
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Smitch had the right idea developing Bargs. Keep him.
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I really don't see much of a difference in Bargnani's game in the last 4 years---at least when comparing the job Triano/Casey have both done with him. Defensively, he hasn't developed in any way/shape/form. If anything he was at his best in that aspect during the Smitch years, at least statistically
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Simply one thing. No automatic minutes. He earns every one by presenting a complete game. Amir or Ed play if he doesn't perform.
BC wanted him coddled thou due to his own ego. He refuses to admit he blew a #1 overall pick. It happens all the time that teams do blow that pick, but they have the sense to either move on from him, or fire the GM and move on from both. We seem to have had a leadership vaccuum the last couple of years as MLSE was sold. I'm hoping the new board takes BC to task on his spotty record. We either are a team in the playoffs or a team at the bottom of the standings competing for good draft picks. Since Bargs we drafted: No Pick, 17, 9, 13, 5 and 8. That's prime treadmill ground there, unless we are making up for it in FA, which BC has been an abject failure at outside of Anthony Parker. The rest of his FAs: Kapono, Hedo, Fields, Kleiza have been an unmitigated disaster.
BC wanted him coddled thou due to his own ego. He refuses to admit he blew a #1 overall pick. It happens all the time that teams do blow that pick, but they have the sense to either move on from him, or fire the GM and move on from both. We seem to have had a leadership vaccuum the last couple of years as MLSE was sold. I'm hoping the new board takes BC to task on his spotty record. We either are a team in the playoffs or a team at the bottom of the standings competing for good draft picks. Since Bargs we drafted: No Pick, 17, 9, 13, 5 and 8. That's prime treadmill ground there, unless we are making up for it in FA, which BC has been an abject failure at outside of Anthony Parker. The rest of his FAs: Kapono, Hedo, Fields, Kleiza have been an unmitigated disaster.
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Is this a question to BC? Because he is the one who should be accountable for the Bargs fiasco. And now that his trade value at an all time low it is certainly become an issue
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JN wrote:Ultimately the issue started when BC inseminated Andrea's mother.
So to fix the issue you have to send back someone to assassinate BC in the past.
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Work and work on his quickness and make him play SF.