Varejao to have knee surgery - out 6-8 weeks

[Manny Phresh]

I rather Andy be injured 82 games a season than trade him for anything Minnesota has to offer...











With the exception of Kevin Love.

[B Mac]

There were plenty of rumors (some you could probably take more seriously than others). There was a lot of noise about Andy. The Wolves could have returned nice talent. The idea being the returning talent ought to be younger and less injury prone.

with Enes Kanter I bet the Jazz would trade the draft rights to Ante Tomic. Tomic is straight up ballin for barcelona right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_pJdXILUp0

Go back the last 5 years and list off the amount of trades that happened in December and early January for me that didnt involve head-cases being sold off on the cheap. Trades just dont happen at that point in the season. Heck, last year only 1 or 2 happened before the last day of the deadline. Even if the Cavs were looking to trade Anderson at that point it doesnt mean other teams were interested.

I get the sentiment, because its the mob mentality on talk radio all around Cleveland right now, but it doesnt make it right.

[pickIBL]

oh it makes sense... The Cavs knew they were rebuilding (aka werent gonna win many games) even in November and December. Problem is Andy just played better and better and they got greedy... thought they'd hold out. And the injury bug that always bites Andy at some point ruined what they realistically could have got for him. And the thing is with knee injuries... you never know just how much of that player you are gonna get back. He's gotta prove he can play all over again now to teams next year... just so you can trade him and try and get value back for him... and it surely will be less than what you could have got.

[rjgraca]

oh it makes sense... The Cavs knew they were rebuilding (aka werent gonna win many games) even in November and December. Problem is Andy just played better and better and they got greedy... thought they'd hold out. And the injury bug that always bites Andy at some point ruined what they realistically could have got for him. And the thing is with knee injuries... you never know just how much of that player you are gonna get back. He's gotta prove he can play all over again now to teams next year... just so you can trade him and try and get value back for him... and it surely will be less than what you could have got.

Oh, you make sense in the hindsight views that you present which are self serving ego message with the made up drama of what should have been like on some sports talk radio. By saying the Cavs got greedy is just ignoring what B-Mac was trying to say to you politely, that major trades happen closer to the trade deadline. There wasn't going to be a team making a serious offer until then given that Varejao hasn't made it there the last couple of seasons.

[pickIBL]

Chris Paul was traded 11/14
Lamar Odom 11/11
Vince Carter, Gortat, JRich 12/18
Diaw, JRich, Bell 12/10
Zach Randolph was moved early in that year. The Iverson Billups trade was early too.

Plenty of names have moved in November and December. No reason Andy couldn't have been moved in November or December if a Finals MVP can... so the FO is taking some heat from the fanbase as they should.

[Kaner]

Well, yeah... there IS a reason we didn't move Andy in November or December. It could be because there was no appealing offer made, and AV brings a lot to the table for us on a very reasonable contract. His injuries aren't chronic, they're all unrelated and we're not going to rush to make a deal for someone like him. Saying we should be upset with our FO over deals that were just hypothetical rumors that had no basis in reality leads me to believe that either A) You're a troll, or B) You aren't too familiar with the Cavs organization.

[tundraknight]

Ladies and Gentleman... Your Cleveland Cavaliers shall be in full tank mode now!!!!!!

[rjgraca]

Chris Paul was traded 11/14
Lamar Odom 11/11
Vince Carter, Gortat, JRich 12/18
Diaw, JRich, Bell 12/10
Zach Randolph was moved early in that year. The Iverson Billups trade was early too.

Plenty of names have moved in November and December. No reason Andy couldn't have been moved in November or December if a Finals MVP can... so the FO is taking some heat from the fanbase as they should.

Lets take a closer look at your apples and oranges comparison that your using to promote your Varejao trade hyperbole.

Chris Paul forced his way out which isn't the case with Varejao.

VC and JRich are over the hill players and Gortat wasn't considered that good which isn't the case with Varejao.

Diaw (overpaid too for much of his career), JRich and Bell are over the hill players which isn't the Case with Varejao.

Zack Randolph was (and still is by some) considered a bad apple (cancer) which is why he was moved. His contract is large for a player that doesn't produce that much more than Varejao. Varejao has neither contract or personal issues to make an apple to apple comparison.

Iverson is another guy who forced his way out. Varejao is not forcing his way out.

[pickIBL]

Oh you are always comparing apples and oranges with trades that is pretty much my exact point. You have to judge each situation on its own merits. Fact is I knew for damn sure big names got moved early in the season for a variety of reasons.

Sure Andy isn't forcing his way out. But there are other players (one of them on the Twolves even) that is trying to do just that. It is not like Billups wanted to leave his hometown but he got moved for AI.

Maybe you wouldn't have gotten back as much as you had wanted... but I think it is wrong to scold fans... especially season ticket holders for being disappointing that Andy wasn't moved before this.

[TheOUTLAW]

I didn't think that Varejao would be back since there was no reason to have him in a position to be reinjured. However, he's out because of an Embolism.

[pickIBL]

The franchise had an up and close view of how many problems this guy has/had and sees his medical report. Simply no excuse for not moving him when they had the chance. Probably wouldn't have brought back what cavs fans wanted... butg there is a reason... look what just happened to him.

[BossHoggin]

Now that he is done for the year can you go back to your own team's forum and troll there?

[TheOUTLAW]

absolutely anyone can have a pulmonary embolism. It's just ignorant to blame any other injury he might have had for that.

[pickIBL]

its a string of things. a bunch of bad things happens to Andy... again and again.

[kyphi]

Man, I am sorry to hear about his blood clot - he was fun to watch

[Harper4Ferry?]

They better trade him at the deadline next year and/or not pick up that 2014 option. I'm tired of this crap. He never plays. This one is just bad luck, and I do hope he recovers. You just can't plan to go forward with a player that plays about 40% of the games.

[Niko23]

Trading him in the offseason would be best. We need space for two maxes for the summer of 2014

[pickIBL]

Comment From Matt E
Chris Mannix said on the Dan Patrick show that the Cavs tried to trade Andy. Tisk tisk. Should hav

Sam Amico:
They tried. No takers. Don't just trade a guy for the sake of it. That's what they would've been doing. You need a dance partner. They had ZERO.

As it turns out the Cavs were shopping him hard. Reading past the homer speak it is pretty clear that 1) the Cavs tried to trade Andy early 2) they had offers but none they or Sam Amico (for that matter) deemed good enough. They had a dance partners... just not ones they deemed pretty enough.

[TheOUTLAW]

That really isn't new news. Anderson has been on the block ever since LeBron left, but the Cavs weren't just going to give him away. I think we all knew that.