ImageImageImageImageImage

The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown

Moderators: Kilroy, Danny Darko, TyCobb

User avatar
rsavaj
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 24,863
And1: 2,767
Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#1 » by rsavaj » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:58 pm

User avatar
Sofa King
RealGM
Posts: 19,352
And1: 3,044
Joined: Jul 27, 2003
Contact:
 

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#2 » by Sofa King » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:38 pm

Here's my breakdown...

Image

Image
IamBBAnalysis
Rookie
Posts: 1,027
And1: 537
Joined: Dec 09, 2012

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#3 » by IamBBAnalysis » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:44 pm

Two things in that video and in general I've noticed:

1) The Lakers should try hedging on pick and rolls.
2) The spacing on offense is terrible.
User avatar
leeprettyp
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,950
And1: 680
Joined: Sep 18, 2012
Location: The City of Champions Los Angeles, CA
Contact:
       

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#4 » by leeprettyp » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:05 pm

IamBBAnalysis wrote:Two things in that video and in general I've noticed:

1) The Lakers should try hedging on pick and rolls.
2) The spacing on offense is terrible.



Agree to both. But I swear for the life of me knowing the lack of foot speed of this current team that we just dont jump the PG on the pick in roll every single time to get the ball out of there hands also. Gotta trust Dwight and the weakside support to be able to defend the rim and give back support
Image
User avatar
supaflash
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,670
And1: 131
Joined: Jun 27, 2008
Location: A Mile High
Contact:
   

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#5 » by supaflash » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:17 pm

That vid shows how god awful our pick and roll defense has been and how disorganized in general we are on that end. At first I thought it was mostly Duhon and Kobe guilty of just watching the ball, but you can see almost everyone has been doing it. We knew Pau was bad but that makes him look miserable. When he hedges, they just go around him, when he doesn't they just shoot easy shots, when he steps up they just get layups. We don't know who and when to switch, just lots of confusion. And it shows how bad Dwight as been a lot of the time to, not rotating, not challenging, and definitely not hedging... just wow at our D...
tenten
Junior
Posts: 379
And1: 32
Joined: Jan 03, 2013

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#6 » by tenten » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:34 pm

IamBBAnalysis wrote:
1) The Lakers should try hedging on pick and rolls.


no, especially if the pnr involves dwight or pau. They are way too slow and gets blow by on a switch way too easily. They need to stay with the roll guy and protect the paint, let the pg shoot a long jump shot. long jump shot by a pg vs penetration/layup/assist, take your pick. Force play makers to shoot jump shots, rather than making plays for others.
IamBBAnalysis
Rookie
Posts: 1,027
And1: 537
Joined: Dec 09, 2012

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#7 » by IamBBAnalysis » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:44 pm

tenten wrote:
IamBBAnalysis wrote:
1) The Lakers should try hedging on pick and rolls.


no, especially if the pnr involves dwight or pau. They are way too slow and gets blow by on a switch way too easily. They need to stay with the roll guy and protect the paint, let the pg shoot a long jump shot. long jump shot by a pg vs penetration/layup/assist, take your pick. Force play makers to shoot jump shots, rather than making plays for others.


I considered that...which is why I said "try". The problem is what the Lakers are doing on D does not take the other team out of their comfort zone. Making the team's best player not make plays is usually a good idea.
User avatar
gotokyo
Rookie
Posts: 1,150
And1: 283
Joined: Feb 29, 2012

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#8 » by gotokyo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:52 pm

What about running a zone? Seems like every other team can it effectively why can't we?

P.S.haven't watched the video so I don't know if that was mentioned.
Wreckus13
Pro Prospect
Posts: 875
And1: 160
Joined: Aug 06, 2012
       

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#9 » by Wreckus13 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:08 pm

That video convinced me that there is no hope for us defensively.
User avatar
AcecardZ
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,770
And1: 541
Joined: May 09, 2011
Location: Watching the Lakers play basketball...

Re: The LA Lakers' Issues: A Video Breakdown 

Post#10 » by AcecardZ » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:23 am

supaflash wrote:That vid shows how god awful our pick and roll defense has been and how disorganized in general we are on that end. At first I thought it was mostly Duhon and Kobe guilty of just watching the ball, but you can see almost everyone has been doing it. We knew Pau was bad but that makes him look miserable. When he hedges, they just go around him, when he doesn't they just shoot easy shots, when he steps up they just get layups. We don't know who and when to switch, just lots of confusion. And it shows how bad Dwight as been a lot of the time to, not rotating, not challenging, and definitely not hedging... just wow at our D...



This sums us up defensively to a T... I've been noticing exactly what you're describing all season long and the only solution I've come up with, albeit a crazy solution that probably wouldn't work, would be for us to press the ball handler far earlier in the shot clock thus doing everything possible to prevent them from getting set up to run a tradition PnR. It might just create more chaos with our lack of speed coming even more into play or it could create confusion for our opponents offensively and improve our defense. Who knows but at this point I'm willing to try anything so long as I don't have to see Pau get ran circles around anymore.
Sometimes being wrong is awesome!!! :D

Return to Los Angeles Lakers