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Around the NBA part 3

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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#801 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:55 pm

What is Rashard doing??
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#802 » by egelband » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:57 pm

br7knicks wrote:wtf. why did sullinger get T'd up. that was all on Lewis and the rest of the Heat vaginas


miami is the home team in every city, essentially. people would say sullinger should just take that but the refs wouldn't have called lewis otherwise.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#803 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:58 pm

LMAO Miami got charged with a phantom call...probably to make up for the double tech.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#804 » by Kooz » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Lewis put Sullinger in a headlock and Sullinger gets a technical foul. Eff these refs. :evil:
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#805 » by egelband » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:59 pm

hah. i'm wrong. sullinger got to go to the line after falling over his own feet. haha
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#806 » by egelband » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:01 pm

the number six is one of the worst numbers a superstar could pick. it has no...cache.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#807 » by 21shumpshumpst » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:09 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:You got it backwards IMO.

The stats enhance the eye test, otherwise no need to watch the games.

Sometimes I wonder what fans did back in the day before all this.

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21shumpshumpst wrote:Btw can someone explain to me how these great stats on isolation by the all mighty Synergy are compiled?

They have a bunch of guys looking at video on a computer, annotating each play they see. I know because I took the online test to become one of those guys (but I guess I didn't do well enough to qualify).

21shumpshumpst wrote:Does it take into account that sometimes when you are isolated and your man breaks your ankle the opposing team may or may not have a good help defending big that stops points from being scored?

Closest man that contests the shot, causes the TO, or commits the shooting foul is credited with being the defender in isolation. If no one contests the shot, it is left to the judgment of the analyst to determine who the closest defender is.

21shumpshumpst wrote:Does it take into account the defensive scheme being used for help defending vs said isolations? Because it is rare in the nba to see a man be left on his own in isolation situations without
No it does not. The offensive play is annotated (isolation, pnr ball handler, pnr roll man, post up, spot up, off screen, cut, handoff), but the defensive scheme is not, not that I know of.

21shumpshumpst wrote:How about does it take into account number of isolations ? For example, maybe Lin was allowed to be isolated 10 times vs 100 for another pg.

The stats include the number of instances.

For example, Lin defended 91 plays in isolation, which is 16.4% of the total plays he has defended this year. Opponents have scored .76 points per possession on isolation plays on Lin. It also gives the FGM, FGA, 3PM, 3PA, % of isolation plays that ended in a Shooting Foul, and 1's, % that ended in a TO, and % that ended in a score.

For synergy, a "play" means a possession that ends in a FGA, TO, or FTA.

You can check http://www.mysynergysports.com/ to see for yourself. Apparently they give you three freebies, so you can look up 3 players' stats for free.

21shumpshumpst wrote:Or the fact that sometimes pgs are hidden from the best iso scorer on the other team as part of hte initial defensive scheme? So for example you wouldn't put Nash on CP3 you would put Kobe. Thanks

The Synergy analyst is instructed to record the closest defender to the offensive player when the offensive player shoots, turns it over, or draws a shooting foul.

21shumpshumpst wrote:Sorry one last thing what is their criteria for isolation? Thanks

Any play that ends in a FGA, TO, or FTA that's not a PnR, post up, spot up, catch and shoot shot off a screen, cut, or a handoff.

If the play falls into a grey area, the analyst (video guy annotating the play) uses their best judgment in assigning which play type it is.


Hey man one more question. What are the requirements to be able to do this job? Could any person off the street apply or is there a specific skillset that an analyst needs?

How much do you pay?
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#808 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:17 pm

The 8th seed isn't winning 48 games out West this year, I have no idea why they keep talking about that.

I doubt the 7th seed does either.
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Post#809 » by knicksnyk » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Did somebody really says stats confirm what you see? That is utter crap. Has anybody ever heard of confirmation bias?

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/03/22/you-w ... s-so-what/

People that say Lin is an awful defender are kidding themselves. Daryl Morey himself said he was a good defender unless you presume to know more about the NBA than Morey

Also you don't use DRTG as a stat for defense because DRTG is a stat for team defense not individual defense.

There are so many stats that give a decent indication of individual defensive ability that say Lin is a good defender (synergy, on/off, DRAPM) but keep on keeping.

And FYI Synergy isn't advanced stats there is absolultey nothing advanced about synergy. get your facts straight yall.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#810 » by DE FENSE » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:35 pm

Definitely looked like KG said to himself "Dammit muthaf**ka...stupid f**k, come on b**ch" after the missed freethrow. His trash talk knows no boundaries :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#811 » by Kooz » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:38 pm

Rondo has a torn ACL. He is obviously done for the season.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#812 » by denterprise » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:38 pm

Really bad news for Rondo, torn ACL.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#813 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:44 pm

Boston is done. Losing Rondo is a HUGE blow.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#814 » by SonOfMars » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:46 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:All I need is for PP, KG, Wade and Lebron to get injured this afternoon.


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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#815 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:48 pm

SonOfMars wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:All I need is for PP, KG, Wade and Lebron to get injured this afternoon.


:o

I kinda feel bad now lol.
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Post#816 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:49 pm

knicksnyk wrote:Did somebody really says stats confirm what you see? That is utter crap. Has anybody ever heard of confirmation bias?

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/03/22/you-w ... s-so-what/

People that say Lin is an awful defender are kidding themselves. Daryl Morey himself said he was a good defender unless you presume to know more about the NBA than Morey

Also you don't use DRTG as a stat for defense because DRTG is a stat for team defense not individual defense.

There are so many stats that give a decent indication of individual defensive ability that say Lin is a good defender (synergy, on/off, DRAPM) but keep on keeping.

And FYI Synergy isn't advanced stats there is absolultey nothing advanced about synergy. get your facts straight yall.

You expect Morey to admit his own player is weak defensively? :lol:

And for the record drtg is also a player rating.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#817 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:49 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
SonOfMars wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:All I need is for PP, KG, Wade and Lebron to get injured this afternoon.


:o

I kinda feel bad now lol.

Why, you didn't list Rondo. I'm sure there was no pity party for us in Miami last year.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#818 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:50 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Why, you didn't list Rondo.

No, but I was certainly thinking it lol
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#819 » by DE FENSE » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:00 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Why, you didn't list Rondo.

No, but I was certainly thinking it lol


Dude just stop talking before you jinx us :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#820 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:01 pm

So I remember Dr. Deftknick saying the Knicks are a joke if they don't beat the Celtics by 20-30 pts. The Heat are leading by 1. Does that not make them contenders?
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