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Re: Around MLB 2012 (offseason signings, trades, rumors, ect 

Post#421 » by wichmae » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:03 am

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trwi7 wrote:Mariners/A's/Nats complete a 3 team deal. I have no idea wtf the A's are doing.

Mariners trade: John Jaso
Mariners get: Mike Morse

A's trade: A.J. Cole (top prospect that the Nats traded to them in the Gio Gonzalez deal)
A's get: John Jaso

Nats trade: Mike Morse
Nats get: A.J. Cole


I know AJ Coles isn't on the level of the Royals guys or Trevor Bauer, but what is going on in baseball with prospect trades? Total 180 from 2 years ago when no one would give up anyone.

Exactly my thoughts too
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Post#422 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:51 pm

trwi7 wrote:I should add that if Jaso hits like he did last year, this deal looks good for the A's. The problem is he's 29 and has never come close to hitting that well, especially power wise so I have my doubts.


Against righties, he's pretty good. A bit of an upgrade over Kottaras. Assuming that he's at least found a bit of slugging improvement last season. You're right, if it's a fluke, it's bad.

Let's say he's an .810 OPS guy against righties. That's a great advantage to have. They could legitimately trot out a lineup almost every day where nearly every hitter has an .800+ OPS against the hand they are hitting against.

If he's back to being a near-scrub, then they got worked on the trade.

Also, Cole is only 20 but when he moved to high A ball, he got DESTROYED. Could mean nothing or maybe it means that the guy just doesn't have the talent to move higher.
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Post#423 » by El Duderino » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:19 pm

Captain Erv wrote:So pretty much the A's get rid of the best player involved in the trade and receive the worst player involved in the trade? MONEYBALL!


He takes a lot of walks :dontknow:
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Post#424 » by trwi7 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:23 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:Also, Cole is only 20 but when he moved to high A ball, he got DESTROYED. Could mean nothing or maybe it means that the guy just doesn't have the talent to move higher.


It was 38 innings in the Cal League. It means nothing.
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Post#425 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:41 pm

trwi7 wrote:
GrendonJennings wrote:Also, Cole is only 20 but when he moved to high A ball, he got DESTROYED. Could mean nothing or maybe it means that the guy just doesn't have the talent to move higher.


It was 38 innings in the Cal League. It means nothing.


I would tend to agree with you but the reason it was 38 innings was because he went 0-7. Could barely make it through 3 innings.
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Post#426 » by giraldo5 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:37 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
GrendonJennings wrote:Also, Cole is only 20 but when he moved to high A ball, he got DESTROYED. Could mean nothing or maybe it means that the guy just doesn't have the talent to move higher.


It was 38 innings in the Cal League. It means nothing.


I would tend to agree with you but the reason it was 38 innings was because he went 0-7. Could barely make it through 3 innings.



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Post#427 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:13 am

GrendonJennings wrote:
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GrendonJennings wrote:Also, Cole is only 20 but when he moved to high A ball, he got DESTROYED. Could mean nothing or maybe it means that the guy just doesn't have the talent to move higher.


It was 38 innings in the Cal League. It means nothing.


I would tend to agree with you but the reason it was 38 innings was because he went 0-7. Could barely make it through 3 innings.


It was 3 innings because they were limiting his innings towards the end of the season and like I said it was the Cal League, a League that would make Yuniesky Betancourt look good on offense.
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Post#428 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:57 pm

Yeah, like I said I normally wouldn't even bat an eye at those stats, just saying that maybe he is showing signs that he doesn't have big league stuff.

Probably nothing at all to take from those stats and the A's for some reason thought Jaso was that valuable. We shall see.
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Post#429 » by mlloyd10 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:51 pm

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Sources: #Braves close to acquiring Justin Upton from #Diamondbacks. Still working through final details.
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Post#430 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:13 pm

Upton and Chris Johnson for Delgado, Ahmed, Drury and Spruill. Big package for the D-Backs, though Prado is an impending FA.
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Post#431 » by Captain Erv » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:12 pm

Sounds like Prado will get an extension with the D-Backs.
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Post#432 » by BUCKnation » Thu Jan 24, 2013 7:52 pm

Good deal for both teams, imo.
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Post#433 » by humanrefutation » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:23 pm

Baseball Prospectus had a lip reader decipher some of the manager-umpire arguments last year. I hope they make this a regular feature.

I'm still angry about this one:

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Post#434 » by trwi7 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:36 pm

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Post#435 » by trwi7 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:39 pm

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He tagged him on his ball sack! :lol:
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Post#436 » by humanrefutation » Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:03 am

So, I'm just going to leave this here for now. South Florida and PEDs? I don't want to think about it, but there is one former University of Miami player that we all know of that was connected to PEDs in the last couple years. Don't think it's the same guy that was quoted in the article, but there were a couple alarms going off in my head when I read this.
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Post#437 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:22 pm

Looks like Yuni found some incriminating photos of Charlie Manuel.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/phillies-sign-yuniesky-betancourt.html
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Post#438 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:35 pm

Decent number of players have been named as clients to a Miami area clinic known for supplying PEDs, namely HGH. A-Rod, Gio Gonzalez, Melky Cabrera and Nelson Cruz are the big ones. Key here is if allegations are true, they can be hit with a suspension; no test needed.
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Post#439 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:54 pm

The guy's notes were ridiculous. "I need to get A-Rod more roids on Friday" basically.

Yasmani Grandal is a pretty big name as well.
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Post#440 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:09 pm

Not surprising. He's already suspended for the first 50 games of the season.

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