Is Sap or Al worth more in S&T than Expiring?

SoCalJazzFan · Post #1 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:53 pm

Many of us have been focused on what the Jazz could get for a 1/2 season, expiring Sap (mainly) or Al. However, couldn't the Jazz possibly not trade Sap or Al and instead do a sign and trade with another team this summer (still could only afford 1 expensive player coming back)? This could be a way for the player to get a longer/bigger contract and do the team a favor on the way out as a thank you for treating me so well.

If this is the scenario, do the teams and players expand from what they are now, and who could they be?

kebutah · Post #2 » by **kebutah** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:09 pm

S&T are as easy anymore. Teams over the CAP are not allowed to do them. There are more restrictions in the new CBA,

SoCalJazzFan · Post #3 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:58 pm

I don't think anything kicks in until 3 years after CBA, and I believe that it only limits teams that are so many millions over the tax threshhold, not the cap.

kebutah · Post #4 » by **kebutah** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:36 am

This is from Larry Coon's FAQ:
Starting in 2013-14, the team receiving the player cannot be above the "apron" ($4 million above the tax level) after the trade.

Starting in 2013-14, the team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception that season.

Post #5 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:21 am

so S&T is still possible this season without those restrictions, which come into play NEXT year.

kebutah · Post #6 » by **kebutah** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:29 am

During the season it would be an extend and trade which was eliminated in this CBA, The S&T rules in this CBA begin when this season ends.

Post #7 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:41 am

thank for the info :thumbsup:

do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?

does anyone have a link to the NEW CBA (not the one from 2005 which you can find in the nbpa website)? and i mean the FULL NEW CBA and not just the few pages that were linked to the media during the lockout when they came to an agreement.

kebutah · Post #8 » by **kebutah** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:59 am

ww.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

Post #9 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:03 am

yeah, i know this one.

do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?

i meant if there is a source of the actual new cba.

kebutah · Post #10 » by **kebutah** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:14 am

I don't think it has been posted yet. It will be on the union web set eventually.

Post #11 » by **StocktonShorts** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:15 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:yeah, i know this one.

do you have a link to this info (besides larry coon's cba faq)?

i meant if there is a source of the actual new cba.

Billy Hunter's niece was supposed to post it but he fired her.