enetric wrote:
I really dont understand how you can think 3 more years of Crash is a better call for us over 1 more year of Pierce. Pierce is much better at this point of their careers and his contract only has one year left. Its honestly a no brainer here.
CalamityX12 wrote:
What i meant was, IMO, the final piece or the most desired upgrade is the 4 spot and KG fits it to a T. He'll just make us into a serious threat IMHO. Therefore engineering a trade for KG is easier to concentrate on rather than a move for both PP & KG. Whatever we have to move or deal to get KG is rough enough, times that by 2 with PP, almost impossible.
PP is also older that Wallace no? Not saying who's better, if asked what trade i would want, I would vote for the KG deal more so than a KG + PP deal.
OK...have to break this down. Initially you said you PREFERRED to trade only for KG. As in...you dont like Pierce for Crash. Now you are back pedaling pr perhaps redirecting a bit. I think from reading your earlier posts...someone put a negative thought on your head about Pierce so you are not really comparing Crash to Pierce just feeling negative about Pierce.
Next. You cant work the age angle here and say KG is the messiah answer. Pierce 35, KG 36...37 in May. Crash 31. Hump 27, Marshon 24, Evans 32..OK you get the point. This isnt an age argument. Espeically when Crash isnt as good as Pierce right now and he has 3 more years left on his contract and Pierce has ONE.
Next. Lets talk about the "ease" angle of one trade over the other. Its a fallacy that more players has to me harder trade.
Its only harder if:
A: You cannot salary match
B: You cant give the other team what they are trying to accomplish.
So what would Boston be trying to accomplish IF...and I say it again..IF they are looking to deal a KG? Simple answer is to save cash and start rebuilding. Now I have no idea if Boston is ready to do it. I have no idea if Boston can get a shorter matching contract for KG than Hump...or matching expirings for Pierce. But in the case of what I am saying...I came up with a way to say hey...we will take BOTH off your hands. We will save you ALL of that cash in one deal. Now sure...they might be able to find a better deal for either. But...can they find a way to deal BOTH? If not...there is logic to my offer...MORE SO than focusing on ONE of them as you said. Because...we are able to ensure that BOTH contracts are dumped. The key is...can we get someone to take on Crash?
Because no way Boston would want him. And if someone wants Crash...why not take Pierce who is better? So its tricky. Pierce makes a lot more this year...so higher match and bigger cap hit. We dont care about cap hit. Other teams MIGHT. SO that is what I pointing out here.
Next...this idea that adding KG makes us monumentally better? I love me some KG. You wont find a bigger fan on this board. But...seriously. Monumentally better than WHO? We are comparable with any team in the EC other than Miami. And 36 year old KG doesnt make us better than Heat. He just doesnt.
I dont know that KG AND Pierce do. But..that is least a noticeable upgrade for the here and now. Its a two year window of absolute unquestionable top 2 team in the EC. Its a fighting chance. ANd yes...I do feel Pierce is THAT much better than Crash right now. And Crash is another player I used to love. He just isnt close to Pierce right now.
So lets recap...
1- Pierce is better than Crash
2- KG alone doesnt make a monumental difference in our place in the conference
3- Trying to acquire both in this case looking at Boston's motivation and the salary matching IS NOT harder.
4- You saying you desire KG only over getting both is baffling so you should deal with the obvious. Compare PP and Crash to determine who is better. Dismiss age because Pierce has a deal that is 2 years shorter and contract length is more problematic in this league than per year when you are over the cap in a win now window. This trade IF Boston were so inclined to make? Its a no brainer for us as a franchise the clear winner over KG alone. Pierce is with us for this year and next year he is in his final year. So if he isnt working out...we have a giant expiring at the trade deadline. Crash has THREE years left after this one. Simply put...BARF.
Anyway, my guess is Boston will look to deal their big name fan favorites West and see if they can find expiring and some legit prospects and picks. In the mean time, King will salivate and up the offer. He will offer Teletovic or Bogdonovic and any picks he can...because that is what King does. The ideal scenario is thaat King does come back and offers to take both and finds a team like the Spurs with an expiring contract who might take on Crash. Has to be a team that thinks they have a legit need for Crash. Spurs to me make the most sense which is why i cited them.
I was hoping We could get in on the Raps Grizz trade and Calderon could be the expiring. I think Crash made more sense for the Grizz than Prince who I think sucks even more.
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