Around the NBA part 3

[ORANGEandBLUE]

I was talking about what the Knicks got in return for him when they traded him to Golden-State. There were many Knicks fans that wanted David Lee to remain a Knick. The majority of them believed that if Lee was surrounded with better players a 12 million dollar contract for him would not have been a terrible thing for the Knicks. Remember that David Lee throughout the majority of his career played for coaches that didn't stress defense and with a great number of players that are either no longer in the NBA or being used as bench warmers right now. It is not Lee's fault that he never had the right coach or the right cast of players to surround him.

First of all, Lee was a FA and could have walked to another team, so we are lucky we got anything for him.

Second, while I agree the trade turned out pretty poorly, I could see the thinking at the time. Randolph was still considered to be a valuable prospect, and Azubuike, prior to the knee surgery, was a very solid 2-way role-player. Turiaf was decent for us, although he was not a great fit next to Amare due to his poor rebounding.

[Capn'O]

Do people still attribute David Lee numbers to being in the Mike D'antoni system? That was a ridiculous claim that lasted for a few years. David Lee is a Star.

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I'm watching that game right now. Lee is just so skilled and has some of the best hands of any big man. He and Bogut may make the best passing big man tandem in the league.

I'll take the power of our bigs over them though. Amar'e is so dangerous inside. But these guys could do some damage in the playoffs.

He's one of the only players in the NBA I've ever seen that has gotten better since he was a rookie.

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything there

[Capn'O]

They should show that replay five or six more times...

[Capn'O]

Again - Randolph was a key part of the Melo trade. The Lee trade helped us get Melo.

[Capn'O]

Has the Lee/Webber comparison been made before? That's who Lee reminds me of now.

[mattzane227]

Has the Lee/Webber comparison been made before? That's who Lee reminds me of now.

Shaq already coined his nickname WCW. The white Chris Webber.

[Rasho Brezec]

If Gallo is just a role player you should have absoutely no problem naming 5 small forwards in the Western conference that are clearly better. When I say clearly I do not mean may be better. I mean without a doubt clearly better. I will start you off. Kevin Durant. That is 1. You only need to name 4 more.

Why limit it just to the western conference? Just because the West is weak at SF doesn't give Gallo any form of props..

He isn't top 10 in the league currently.....

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10.

And that's not including guys like Granger who is injured, Parsons, MKG and Barnes who are rooks. and sure to pass him over in about 2 seasons.

Gallo is a good player, nothing special, definitely not worthy to be called top of anything.

Turner, Leonard, and Parsons. This can't be real life.

[Leaguepass]

Gay is definitely better than Gallo. We all understand that Rudy is struggling this season but he is a 45-46% career shooter, 34% from 3 , averaging 18points/6rebounds throughout his career and being a solid defender.

Gallo is a good player overall but I think at this point any reasonable knick fan would do the Melo trade 100 times out of 100.

Better SFs than Gallo:

James
Durant
Melo
Deng
Granger/George
Josh Smith(if you consider him a SF)
Batum
Gay

then you have 4-5 guys who are pretty much on Gallo's level:

Ryan Anderson (much more consistant shooter and clearly better rebounder but worse defender and slasher)
Chandler Parsons (14points/6rebounds/4assists on more efficient shooting)
Evan Turner (better allrounder but overall can be argued whether he is better/worse or equal)

I'd out Gallo anywhere between 9-12 at his position, which is good but he really isn't a player I shed a tear over losing......

[Thugger HBC]

If Gallo is just a role player you should have absoutely no problem naming 5 small forwards in the Western conference that are clearly better. When I say clearly I do not mean may be better. I mean without a doubt clearly better. I will start you off. Kevin Durant. That is 1. You only need to name 4 more.

Why limit it just to the western conference? Just because the West is weak at SF doesn't give Gallo any form of props..

He isn't top 10 in the league currently.....

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10.

And that's not including guys like Granger who is injured, Parsons, MKG and Barnes who are rooks. and sure to pass him over in about 2 seasons.

Gallo is a good player, nothing special, definitely not worthy to be called top of anything.

Turner, Leonard, and Parsons. This can't be real life.

I dont think Gallo is that good personally, i actually could name a few more.

[Pharmcat]

lee is a very good player, but he lacked the drawing power

melo wasnt coming here to play with lee...he came here to play with amare

and tyson had a chance to go to gs and play with lee, but he turned that down and came here

[NYK3]

Nets or Bulls tonight??

[Leaguepass]

Depends partly on whether Boozer is playing or not. If he is playing I like the Bulls chances of severely limiting Brooklyn's frontcourt. Butler will make it tough for Johnson as well.

I have the Bulls.

[Grinditout]

Better question is who would you want to win/lose?

[Thugger HBC]

Nets or Bulls tonight??

Go Bulls......bury the Nets.

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[god shammgod]

the answer is - pacers. root for the pacers. always look ahead, not behind. that goes for all things. i'm like ghost dog in this bitch.

[Lord Commander]

the answer is - pacers. root for the pacers. always look ahead, not behind. that goes for all things. i'm like ghost dog in this bitch.

[Johnny Hoops]

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, ]Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10

the ones bolded aren't better than gallinari

I'll give you everyone but Evan Turner

[Johnny Hoops]

Do people still attribute David Lee numbers to being in the Mike D'antoni system? That was a ridiculous claim that lasted for a few years. David Lee is a Star.

I think Lee is an outstanding player but to be fair --- that GS offense is more run-gun than any offense with D'Antoni in NY.

Lee is a very good player - bottom line.

[Johnny Hoops]

for nothing? We got Amare at the time who was awesome (and still shows flashes), which led to us getting Melo and then Tyson.

people have selective memories when it comes to past Knick players like Lee. When he was here, we lauded him for his rebounding and hustle, but the majority of this board couldn't bear the thought of us paying him 12 mill per season, because his defense was horrendous and he wasn't a game changer at all back then. Even when he got to Golden State, he was putting up good numbers but they were ultimately hollow since they never translated into wins, and when you're making $80 million, that's an expectation you have to accept as a player. It wasnt until they got a coach who stressed defense and drafted a monstrous back-court that Lee's skills were put to good use.

NOW he's a truly great player.....but up until this year, let's not pretend we were all lamenting his loss, because that's just revisionist history.

I was talking about what the Knicks got in return for him when they traded him to Golden-State. There were many Knicks fans that wanted David Lee to remain a Knick. The majority of them believed that if Lee was surrounded with better players a 12 million dollar contract for him would not have been a terrible thing for the Knicks. Remember that David Lee throughout the majority of his career played for coaches that didn't stress defense and with a great number of players that are either no longer in the NBA or being used as bench warmers right now. It is not Lee's fault that he never had the right coach or the right cast of players to surround him.

Like many NBA teams already -- I think most of us (me included) fell into the Anthony Randolph trap.

I really thought Randolph would become a star with the Knicks but much like his other LSU brother --- Tyrus Thomas -- he has completely flamed out.

I also thought Turiaf would be solid (but he's made of tissue paper) and didn't realize Azabuke's knee injury was basically career ending.

So at the time - I thought the Lee deal was great.

[Thugger HBC]

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, ]Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10

the ones bolded aren't better than gallinari

I'll give you everyone but Evan Turner

Why not? Same age, better rebounder, more assists, hits the three at a solid clip although he doesn't take many, and plays in a slower pace, the only real difference is he doesn't get to line as much.

Keep in mind I'm stating this season.