Driver & Jennings on Mike & Mike and First Take

[Godgers]

Thought this deserved its own thread. DD was on yesterday and Jennings was on today. Both said alot of stupid stuff and from what I took from it is they did not love playing with Rodgers.

But a few things I remember that stood out was:

Driver said the Packers did not gameplan for Kap running at all. Driver said they thought the 49ers would be scared to run on the outside against great LBs like Walden and Mathews.

Driver said the Packers made no half time adjustments since they didnt plan on Kap running and didnt feel like there was any type adjustments that could be made in time.

Driver said he liked playing with Favre more than Rodgers.

Onto Greg Jennings today.

Greg Jennings half the questions alone were about his old spice commercials. Really plugs that. Was asked about his house for sale. Gave the fake answer that he could be a Packer still but reading between the lines theres no chance hes coming back.

Said Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL right now. Said Favre winged it and you always had a chance of getting the ball on every play. Said Rodgers they run dummy routes and he goes through all his progressions and you dont have the same chance of getting the ball on every play.

Said Rodgers stats are great but dont mean much.

Was asked to compare Favre and Rodgers and he said Favre was Michael Jordan and Rodgers was Lebron. meaning he thought Favres the greatest player of all time and Rodgers is the best player in the NFL right now.

[Newz]

I think as a receiver and teammate I'd probably prefer to play with Favre too, at least when he was younger. Dude seemed like he was a 'life of the party' type of guy.

Kind of strange they are coming out and saying stuff about Rodgers right away. But oh well, hopefully he reads or hears about it and it just adds more fuel to the fire.

[Kerb Hohl]

Rodgers is getting the trash because he's the current player, and I think that should be taken into consideration.

That said, you lose credibility when you tell me Favre was better. There was a 3-year stretch where Favre held a candle to Rodgers, but Rodgers blows Favre completely out of the water, statistically. He's going to be better when everything is said and done. Comparing Favre to Jordan is the lulz.

It's funny that some are **** on Rodgers as he may have some internal locker room issues but we're getting to the point where everyone casually forgets about Favre's locker room ego.

[BUCKnation]

Other than the Favre/Rodgers stuff, Im pretty sure all of that was known already.

[Kerb Hohl]

Also, I'm not defending Rodgers. I'm sure he's full of himself in the locker room...but even from an outsider's view, unless Rodgers is like banging Jennings' wife behind his back, there is nothing you can tell me to convince me that Rodgers' ego is worse than Favre's and that you'd rather have a guy that throws the ball around like Jay Cutler in the playoffs.

[Reddeye]

I need to find those interviews so I can watch them again. I never heard Driver say he liked playing with Favre more than Rodgers. Also thought that Jennings was using the Jordan/Lebron analogy to show that both players were great, but they had different styles of play. Jennings was going to explain himself, but the other idiots kept interrupting him so he pretty much agreed to what they said.

[Kerb Hohl]

Yeah, I guess I should have remembered who was paraphrasing this thread.

I'd like to listen back to this interview in podcast form to see how badly BucksRuleAll or BucksFan (I forget every time which one was the legit one) threw his bias in there.

[Reddeye]

Kind of strange they are coming out and saying stuff about Rodgers right away. But oh well, hopefully he reads or hears about it and it just adds more fuel to the fire.

I didn't see Jennings on Mike and Mike just First Take. I saw Driver on both. I didn't think either had anything bad to say about Rodgers. Driver tried to tap dance around the Favre/Rodgers question until they kind of made him give them an answer. He used Favre's career stats as the reason he picked him as the better QB. Jennings basically said that Rodgers will go through with the play as designed and not take chances with the ball and that with Favre the ball could be coming at any time.

[emunney]

I think it's pretty ridiculous to say there was a three year stretch where Favre 'held a candle' to Rodgers. He won the MVP those three years. He was unbelievable. Rodgers is a great QB, no doubt, and the way he's been playing the last few years has earned his way into discussions of all time greats, but the suggestion that Rodgers is so much better than Favre that Favre was only CLOSE for those three years betrays a really short memory.

I don't see anything there that would indicate that either guy didn't like playing with Rodgers. Calling Rodgers LeBron and the best QB in the league isn't exactly a slap in the face. I actually kind of like the analogy. Jordan was much more of a freelance/force the issue player. LeBron is obsessed with making the correct decision, like Rodgers. I just laugh at the idea that an athlete in any sport would or should feel slighted by being compared to LeBron.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

It's funny that some are **** on Rodgers as he may have some internal locker room issues but we're getting to the point where everyone casually forgets about Favre's locker room ego.

Favre's locker room ego was so large that he literally had his own locker room. Not hard to see why most players were fine with Rodgers taking over at the end of Favre's career (in GB).

[Kerb Hohl]

"Hold a candle" was probably a poor choice of words.

The MVP years + 2007 + 2009 were the only years that Favre had his reigns on correctly. You could throw in those two years where Mike Sherman had Ahman Green running in prime form and we went 12-4 (2001/2002) where Favre was solid enough. Those, coincidentally, where the years that we went better than 10-6 (and the Vikings). Favre had his playoff issues in all of those years except the MVP ones.

I'm saying outside of MVP years Favre or if you gave him a studly rushing attack, give me Rodgers any day of the week.

I realize Favre was playing in an era where defenders were congratulated for taking shots at QBs heads so the ratings were always lower, but outside of MVP form Favre, assuming Rodgers doesn't fall off a cliff, give me Rodgers in any other season. Give him a competent defense and/or rushing game and he'll win a few Super Bowls. Favre is more of a grab bag in that, except for the MVP years and a few others where he had stellar rushing attacks. If you give me a good defense and decent rushing attack, I'm not sure if Favre is going to throw interceptions for a 10-6 season or throw me out of the playoffs. I know that if those things show up for the season that Rodgers will get me there.

[Kerb Hohl]

Rodgers has really only had 4 years in his "prime" (I think he has 3 more in his super prime and then 3 where he is still elite) and he has not thrown us out of anything yet. He put up 50+ points against the Cardinals with only a boneheaded early INT and a facemasked fumble in OT. Then a Super Bowl where he was god. Then didn't play great against the Giants but since our memories are fresh, he did not get any help from his WRs/RBs/TEs. This year, he played fine (not elite) and the defense gave up 45.

Favre had a similar run in his prime through a few playoffs. After that...well...where do I start? He botched basically every playoffs and had inferior statistical regular seasons to Rodgers in every one.

However, unless Rodgers unexpectedly starts texting dong pics and becomes a turnover machine, I think he will still put up great regular seasons and will not wilt in the playoffs.

Favre is crazy, I think the "playoff pressure" or "clutch god" terms are waaaayyyy overrated by the media to try to characterize anomalies, but in Favre's case, he was a massive playoff choker after about 1998.

[Newz]

Favre's first year in Minnesota was pretty damn impressive too. Favre doesn't have to take a backseat to anyone. He's one of the best players and best QBs to ever play the game.

[Kerb Hohl]

Favre's first year in Minnesota was pretty damn impressive too. Favre doesn't have to take a backseat to anyone. He's one of the best players and best QBs to ever play the game.

That was in my list, ("2009"), you stinking n00b.

[Newz]

Favre's first year in Minnesota was pretty damn impressive too. Favre doesn't have to take a backseat to anyone. He's one of the best players and best QBs to ever play the game.

That was in my list, ("2009"), you stinking n00b.

I may or may not have missed that while reading your post.

[Thunder Muscle]

This seems like a situation where you have to hear the comments to truly gauge the intent. If they flat out said Favre > Rodgers and/or they preferred Favre over Rodgers, I'm pretty sure this would be a huge State story. Interesting either way though.

I don't think Favre needs to defend himself to anybody, the guy was an elite QB for years and won a Super Bowl, and went to another. Besides the ugly departure, I think Rodgers' early success has diminished the greatness he was. The team never had a drop-off after he left, so everybody is on the new guy's back. I think if the Pack don't get back to the Super Bowl in the next few years and if these leadership issues continue to dog Rodgers that you may see a greater appreciation by the fans for Favre's tenure with team. Especially as we move farther from his Vikings years and time heals those wounds.

[DH34Phan]

Comparing Favre and Rodgers' statistics is apples and oranges with the officiating and how defense is policed. It's a different game.

There is no doubt in my mind that if Favre from the 90's had played in this era he'd have thrown 40+ TDs a year while being able to scramble for yardage without the fear of getting his head taken off.

[Kerb Hohl]

I agree with that. I mentioned that the game is different in my book of a post. That said, unless he had a brain transplant or with how the game is officiated, Favre's brain would be safer...Favre post-1998 mostly cannot hold up to Rodgers. Maybe Favre throws 45 TDs in a season or two but he still throws 15 INTs.

I know that Favre had more of a gun when he was on, but the INTs can't be ignored if you are arguing who you'd rather have.

[Godgers]

You could tell that everything Jenning's sister put out there was stuff Jennings said to her. I just got the sense from Driver and Jennings that things were not that great between them and Rodgers. Maybe thats why Jennings is leaving.

[MickeyDavis]

We have a fantastic top notch offense. If Jennings has '' bad feelings '' about anyone or anything he needs to grow up. Goodbye and good luck.