How about Lamb and Perk for KG?

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How about Lamb and Perk for KG? 

Post#1 » by chall12180 » Mon Feb 4, 2013 1:16 am

That makes OK City the favorites to win it all, even with the Heat. Did not try trade machine but if it does not work, it's got to be close. Filler could easily make up any small gap.

Is this worth Lamb? Tough to trade that kid, but KG is a defensive stud and still playing very well at 36. No signs of showing his age. Just won't give 40 minutes a night any more.

Could mean 2 straight titles for OK city.
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Post#2 » by bbms » Mon Feb 4, 2013 2:35 am

I'd rather keep Lamb because of his high ceiling at the 2 and Martin's contract situation.
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Post#3 » by richboy » Mon Feb 4, 2013 5:40 am

Not buying into any rather keep Lamb idea over KG. I don't see him being a future superstar. If they would give us KG I would do Lamb. Not to mention we get rid of Perkins. At some point the goal is to win titles. Not stockpile young players. Honestly I think you switch Perkins with KG this team is near unbeatable. I think you have someone that could make Serge a better team defender. You have an individual defender who can actually nearly shut down or at least slow down a Blake Griffin, Zach Randolph, or Tim Duncan. No way you could slow down OKC with the way Ibaka and KG can shoot. You have a guy who still can do work in the post.

That deal wouldn't be enough. Would have to be more like Jones or Jackson and the Toronto pick for him. Might want Lamb instead of Jones or Jackson. If OKC did the deal i can't imagine how anyone in the West would beat them.
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Re: How about Lamb and Perk for KG? 

Post#4 » by deevo » Mon Feb 4, 2013 7:53 am

Garnett's trade value is really low considering that there are very few teams he will accept a trade to and Boston must find the best assets among those teams. He might even retire next year, so giving up a lottery talent for him is paying quite bit already. You wouldn't pay Lamb + Perkins for a 36 year old guy who might retire soon and only give you 1.5 seasons, especially under this new CBA. But I'd do that for Garnett, he'd be the only 36 year old guy I would be willing to give up Lamb for. Mostly because of what he can teach Durant and Ibaka.
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Re: How about Lamb and Perk for KG? 

Post#5 » by bbms » Mon Feb 4, 2013 1:15 pm

I'm not against Garnett, I think he'd be top 3 in impact on this Thunder team, and could very well make the Thunder a top defensive team in the playoffs. I just rather use other assets in order to make an offer for him. I don't know if he's interested in ring chasing, but in OKC he would be useful for his whole rest of contract.

Garnett is the ultimate fit for the Thunder. He makes us better both ends on the court. I'd just rather keep Lamb, because I don't know how much Martin will ask to resign, this would make the Thunder a poor G rotation, and Lamb could find there his niche to play. I like Reggie Jackson more on the SG btw.

On the defensive end, he can act as the defensive anchor the Thunder don't have, his defensive impact is still amazing and he is a 26% DRB rating. What he brings to the table NOW on the defensive end is the ability to make the Thunder a top5 defensiv team at worst. For the rest of his contract, if he can't keep up his defensive game, he still can be a tutor for Ibaka and Durant, helping them to find better positioning and behavior defensively.

Offensively, NOW he takes pressure off from everybody. He has a mid range jumper, a solid low post game and a passing game. Thunder won't need desperately the Ibaka's offensive project to work. Also he gives space inside for slashs and cuts to the basket. He's a decision maker on the high post. Westbrook can just throw him the ball in the elbow, everyone move off the ball and he'll find the open man. It'll be excellent if the Thunder acquire him, every playoff-rotation bigmen on the Thunder would have range, which is always very good for a young slashing team.

Garnett still has at worst one more elite post season defensively. The Thunder doesn't need Garnett to play 30 minutes per game to win in the playoffs, so he could have a lot of rest on his legs, and give him an elite 2014 post season too. Garnett would put rings on Durant's fingers. Offensively, he just need to set high screens, catch and shoot open jumpers, play 1-2 with PG, ocasionally post up with scrubs... Something he'll forever be able to do.

And, finally, if he doesn't give the Thunder a healthy 2015, he's a huge expiring.
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Post#6 » by Balkman32 » Mon Feb 4, 2013 3:24 pm

No Thanks! Lamb will be the 6th man next year, since we have 66 million guranteed to 10 players. I also do not see the Thunder giving Maynor the QO unless he starts playing ahead of Mr. Jackson sometime soon...

The Thunder will end up filling out their roster with vet min contracts next year.
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Post#7 » by Drehova » Tue Feb 5, 2013 3:51 pm

Lamb will not be apart of any trade unless it's a blockbuster imo. with martin's contract situation undecided we'd only have Thabo if Martin sigend elsewhere. jeremy is a huge part of our future. but i'd be willing to do something like :

Perkins , PJ3 , Maynor and OKC 1st or the future Dallas 1st

for KG and Barbosa.

KG would defintely give us a edge but we're likely to at least make a deep playoff run even without him. So no way Presti is going to give up a lot of value
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Post#8 » by deevo » Wed Feb 6, 2013 2:01 pm

bbms wrote:I'm not against Garnett, I think he'd be top 3 in impact on this Thunder team, and could very well make the Thunder a top defensive team in the playoffs. I just rather use other assets in order to make an offer for him. I don't know if he's interested in ring chasing, but in OKC he would be useful for his whole rest of contract.

Garnett is the ultimate fit for the Thunder. He makes us better both ends on the court. I'd just rather keep Lamb, because I don't know how much Martin will ask to resign, this would make the Thunder a poor G rotation, and Lamb could find there his niche to play. I like Reggie Jackson more on the SG btw.

On the defensive end, he can act as the defensive anchor the Thunder don't have, his defensive impact is still amazing and he is a 26% DRB rating. What he brings to the table NOW on the defensive end is the ability to make the Thunder a top5 defensiv team at worst. For the rest of his contract, if he can't keep up his defensive game, he still can be a tutor for Ibaka and Durant, helping them to find better positioning and behavior defensively.

Offensively, NOW he takes pressure off from everybody. He has a mid range jumper, a solid low post game and a passing game. Thunder won't need desperately the Ibaka's offensive project to work. Also he gives space inside for slashs and cuts to the basket. He's a decision maker on the high post. Westbrook can just throw him the ball in the elbow, everyone move off the ball and he'll find the open man. It'll be excellent if the Thunder acquire him, every playoff-rotation bigmen on the Thunder would have range, which is always very good for a young slashing team.

Garnett still has at worst one more elite post season defensively. The Thunder doesn't need Garnett to play 30 minutes per game to win in the playoffs, so he could have a lot of rest on his legs, and give him an elite 2014 post season too. Garnett would put rings on Durant's fingers. Offensively, he just need to set high screens, catch and shoot open jumpers, play 1-2 with PG, ocasionally post up with scrubs... Something he'll forever be able to do.

And, finally, if he doesn't give the Thunder a healthy 2015, he's a huge expiring.


I am in the same boat, but I think it's worth exploring giving up Lamb for him, considering that Martin's role in our system is to shoot open jumpers at a high percentage, and you could get some 6 million/year guys that does this. I mean Martin will be better than these guys as a first option, but in our system, he is all about making high percentage shots. Heck, we could probably get two 3 point aces for 6-8 million. But the upgrade from Perkins to KG is a bigger difference maker.

I hope he ends up here and help us to two more rings. After he leaves, we'll have a huge expiring + a team that learned from KG's defense. Durant will become an entirely different player if he learns under KG. In fact, if Durant can just get 30-50% of the intensity/team defense that KG has, we'll be looking at someone who is as good as Lebron.

So we are not just trading Lamb for KG, we'll be trading for KG + his ability to upgrade the rest of the team defense + holding Westbrook accountable. I'd like to see Russ throw pointless temper tantrems with KG around, that **** won't fly.
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Post#9 » by RickInCali » Fri Feb 8, 2013 2:52 am

There is an active thread on the Bucks page that goes like this: Bucks trade LRMAM, Dalembert, and Daniels. OKC trades Perkins, Lamb, and Maynor. The thinking is Mbah a Moute is a hardcore defender that would be huge for a team on the cusp -- he is still low mileage and the salary is reasonable. Dalembert is expiring and still useful, while Daniels is obviously filler. LRMAM doesn't need the ball so he doesn't require an overhaul of your offense, and he will take the other team's best 2 or 3 on the defensive end.

KG idea is certainly flashier and I am not trying to completely co-opt your thread, but I am interested in thoughts on this if you're willing. Thanks in advance.
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Re: How about Lamb and Perk for KG? 

Post#11 » by PersianCeltic » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:25 am

Know the trade deadline went by but you guys are delusional if you think that is a bad trade for the Thunder. Celtics would never ever ever EVER do that trade in a million years. I saw this thread and find it absolutely hilarious. You guys do that trade and honestly would win probably 2 straight championships easily beating whoever makes the finals in at most 5-6 games.
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Post#12 » by spearsy23 » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:25 pm

PersianCeltic wrote:Know the trade deadline went by but you guys are delusional if you think that is a bad trade for the Thunder. Celtics would never ever ever EVER do that trade in a million years. I saw this thread and find it absolutely hilarious. You guys do that trade and honestly would win probably 2 straight championships easily beating whoever makes the finals in at most 5-6 games.

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Re: How about Lamb and Perk for KG? 

Post#13 » by Shook Ones » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:34 pm

lol

Celtics would laugh at that offer

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