Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22)

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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#21 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Feb 5, 2013 4:28 am

Corbin is so clueless. It's gotten ridiculous.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#22 » by countrybama24 » Tue Feb 5, 2013 4:42 am

It was nice seeing Burks play down the stretch. In a shocking turn of events, he's pretty good when he plays 30 minutes.

Last offensive possessions down the stretch in the 4th:
Jefferson desperation 18 footer as the clock expires (not his fault)
Foye leaner from three (miss)
Jefferson three (airball)

Bravo coach.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#23 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:33 am

countrybama24 wrote:It was nice seeing Burks play down the stretch. In a shocking turn of events, he's pretty good when he plays 30 minutes.

Last offensive possessions down the stretch in the 4th:
Jefferson desperation 18 footer as the clock expires (not his fault)
Foye leaner from three (miss)
Jefferson three (airball)

Bravo coach.


To be fair to Corbin, it could be that he's calling good plays but the players just don't know where they're supposed to be or what they're supposed to do. So really you could argue the blame is on whoever is supposed to teach them those things.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#24 » by RyanStorm » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:34 am

My case is closed.......

Burks was freed tonight, and he produced. Some said he didn't have the knowledge/experience to run the system, but he proved that he can handle clutch time, not just in controlling the ball(which is the main case), but he kept from TOing like most young PG's would do in tight situations(or making other mistakes). He also worked his way with the clock to his advantage.
I just think he is the better defender, and has all the abilities that Tins nor Watson don't have, not just because he is young, but cause his IQ is high, and can play against Hybrid PG casue he is a Hybrid(like Westbrook).

Penetrating and Shooting is something he doesn't lack, which is an obvious flaw in Watson's game. Tinsley isn't as bad, but he thinks he is playing true basketball by not shooting(he thinks he is a true point guard, but this lacks his overall performance, cause he doesn't adapt as the game evolves), but that is dumb because true basketball is shooting the ball when your wide open.

Kings are hopeless with un-tamed talent. Jazz wouldn't even bother with a guy like Cousins or Fredette, cause they are tainted. Fredette is obviously not going anywhere, if he was doing what he needs in Practice he might have 20+ min a night.
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Post#25 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:35 am

Sorry if I'm acting like we lost after we won, but that final play of regulation may be the single worst play I've ever seen the Utah Jazz run out of a timeout.
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Post#26 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:37 am

RyanStorm wrote:My case is closed.......

Burks was freed tonight, and he produced. Some said he didn't have the knowledge/experience to run the system, but he proved that he can handle clutch time, not just in controlling the ball(which is the main case), but he kept from TOing like most young PG's would do in tight situations(or making other mistakes).



What game did you watch? Burks turned it over a bunch.

I thought he played well over all, but the way some people talk he didn't make a single mistake. In fact he made several, many, even. But that's to be expected from a young player who is learning.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#27 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Feb 5, 2013 6:22 am

Jazz sure know how to win ugly. It's getting increasingly difficult to watch and support this team.
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Post#28 » by slcjosh » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:14 pm

corbin made a ballsy decision last night to put millsap and jefferson back in at the like 5 minute mark. the jazz were down 5 and both had been struggling. the first thing that happened when they checked in was millsap drove to the bucket and scored. the jazz went on their run after that to get back into the game. Not gonna lie i was a bit nervous sitting there in section 6, thinking "dammit are we really gonna lose so the jimmer fans go home happy???"

The al Jefferson three point attempt was ugly, but in a sense, it was the right play. with no Gordon or Mo to initiate the offense and to penetrate, we had to settle with foye. Foye made his move and got cut off at the elbow. he was jammed up and had to kick it out to the wing, its just kind of funny that it happened to be jefferson. Im not mad at him for air balling a last second three thats not his normal type of shot, plus i think hes only hit 2 or 3 in his career.

The Jazz picked up their energy and finally closed out the kings in overtime, but the jazz are banged up and i expected this to be a dog fight.

The bench was solid, Demarre played well, enes had a couple of steals, favors was his usual awesome self, and burks nutted up and played well in the second half.

Jimmer is just bad. he had 3 turnovers in like 13 minutes and thats about all he contributed. here is his line from the box score... 13 minutes, 0-5 field goals, 0-3 from deep, 2-2 from the charity stripe, 2 rebounds, 3 turnovers and a -8 for plus minus. Eventually all the BYU loving ignorance will stop, and the fanboys will realize that Jimmer is garbage. Unless he develops some handles, he is in for a very short career in the NBA. (he could still play in Europe so calm down Jimmer fans, you can still buy his jersey, advertisements and all)

Demarcus Cousins is a dumbass. He was clearly the most talented player on the floor, and if he just played his game he could have gone fro 25 and 10+ rebounds and probably helping his team win. Instead he got flustered when a few calls didnt go his way and he got T'd up. His postgame interview he mentioned that he tried to talk to the ref about it, the ref told him to shut up and play and that he didnt want to talk. So he waited until half time to talk to the ref again, who once again stated, there is nothing to talk about, i dont want to talk to you about it. Demarcus then used his brilliant vocabulary and expressed his displeasure by saying to the ref "You dont have to act like suck a fu**ing female". He got tossed as Isiah Thomas and Keith Smart were trying to pull him off the floor. It is really too bad, if he could just not act out and focus on his game he would be a wonderful player.

Other than Tyreke having a pretty solid game, there isnt much more i have to say. Im glad the jazz got the W and I hope to see gordon hayward back really soon.
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Post#29 » by slcjosh » Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:26 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Jazz sure know how to win ugly. It's getting increasingly difficult to watch and support this team.


well, when you starting pg goes down with injury, your back up pg is injured, tinsley is a little gimped, and your best wing defender and scorer in hayward is hurt, things are going to be tough. You should appreciate the fact that the jazz are playing with a depleted roster and holding it down on home court. That game could have easily gone to Sacramento, but they clawed back into it and won. Its the nba, event he bad teams have great players. what is it that you really expect? a win is a win. Given the circumstances, id say im proud of the jazz for not rolling over and dying mid 4th quarter when Sactown went on a little run...
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#30 » by SoCalJazzFan » Tue Feb 5, 2013 8:48 pm

slcjosh wrote:
SoCalJazzFan wrote:Jazz sure know how to win ugly. It's getting increasingly difficult to watch and support this team.


well, when you starting pg goes down with injury, your back up pg is injured, tinsley is a little gimped, and your best wing defender and scorer in hayward is hurt, things are going to be tough. You should appreciate the fact that the jazz are playing with a depleted roster and holding it down on home court. That game could have easily gone to Sacramento, but they clawed back into it and won. Its the nba, event he bad teams have great players. what is it that you really expect? a win is a win. Given the circumstances, id say im proud of the jazz for not rolling over and dying mid 4th quarter when Sactown went on a little run...


All good points. However, when by far their best player leaves the game, their backcourt is nearly non-existent as the Jazz' and you blow a double digit lead and come up with crap for a final shot (we still have Marvin, Sap, etc to fall back on or actually run a play through instead of an iso using a spot up shooter), it is pretty disheartening. I'll give props to Burks and Favors who brought energy and emotion and made impressive plays. Otherwise, the game wasn't even that much fun to watch- which is odd considering it went into overtime.
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Post#31 » by countrybama24 » Tue Feb 5, 2013 8:53 pm

I didn't realize Boogie picked up his second T because after being told by the ref to "not talk to me" he said "you don't have to act like an effin' female." This dude needs a mentor in the worst kind of way. Good luck to Chris Hansen and the sonics if they keep him.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#32 » by BJSmiles » Tue Feb 5, 2013 9:34 pm

This team is boring as hell to watch without Hayward. That is all.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#33 » by slcjosh » Tue Feb 5, 2013 9:35 pm

countrybama24 wrote:I didn't realize Boogie picked up his second T because after being told by the ref to "not talk to me" he said "you don't have to act like an effin' female." This dude needs a mentor in the worst kind of way. Good luck to Chris Hansen and the sonics if they keep him.


He really does. the problem at this point is he has poisoned his own rep so badly, even if they kings tried to trade him, who would take him? they would have to short sell him. too bad the raiders dont play basketball too...
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Post#34 » by DelaneyRudd » Tue Feb 5, 2013 9:57 pm

I think people will assume he will get old and learn to scowl rather than talk, ala Rasheed Wallace.
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#35 » by slcjosh » Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:15 pm

BJSmiles wrote:This team is boring as hell to watch without Hayward. That is all.


I want him back now!
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Re: Game 49: Sacramento Kings (17-32) @ Utah Jazz (26-22) 

Post#36 » by StocktonShorts » Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:39 pm

BJSmiles wrote:This team is boring as hell to watch without Hayward. That is all.


I've felt this way for many games, but I was definitely entertained by the Jazz's lineup last night of Favors, Jefferson, Millsap, Carroll and Burks.

There's nothing boring about a lineup featuring 4 power forwards and a 6'6" swingman.
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