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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1001 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:11 am

Nerlens Noel keeps looking more and more intriguing...
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Post#1002 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:24 pm

Does anyone think it's possible to package the POR pick at 15 with a player and draft up to Minnesota or Dallas at 10? I'd really like to get closer to MCW, Smart or Trey Burke
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1003 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:27 pm

CBS Sports Draft update came out a couple days ago (with video)

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/2164 ... le-changes

1) Noel
2) McLemore
3) Zeller
4) Bennett
5) Muhammad
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Post#1004 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:31 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Does anyone think it's possible to package the POR pick at 15 with a player draft up to Minnesota or Dallas at 10? I'd really like to get closer to MCW, Smart or Trey Burke

MCW and Trey Burke will be within range of the Portland pick. Marcus Smart might not since I envision him having a great NCAA tourney performance. We really don't have no need for point guards though unless they're capable of playing SG. MCW and Smart fit that mold but Burke doesn't.

Edit: I just realized that Trey Burke's stock has blossomed into the top 10. He rightfully deserves it too.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1005 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:38 pm

It would be amazing if Cho could manipulate a way to package our #1 pick and the Portland pick to get us two picks between the #4-8 range and we could land both Shabazz Muhammad and Anthony Bennett.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1006 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 4:50 pm

I'd settle for Ben McLemore + Michael Carter-Williams + Al Jefferson.
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Post#1007 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:02 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I'd settle for Ben McLemore + Michael Carter-Williams + Al Jefferson.

We would still be lackluster with that lineup. McLemore (theoretically Hendo) and MCW (theoretically Sessions) wouldn't add any wins to what we already have and Jefferson might make us a 30 win team.

If we could draft Shabazz Muhammad and Anthony Bennett, then sign Al Jefferson I seriously doubt that we'd miss the playoffs.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1008 » by James Gatz » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:03 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:I'd settle for Ben McLemore + Michael Carter-Williams + Al Jefferson.

We would still be lackluster with that lineup. McLemore (theoretically Hendo) and MCW (theoretically Sessions) wouldn't add any wins to what we already have and Jefferson might make us a 30 win team.

If we could draft Shabazz Muhammad and Anthony Bennett, then sign Al Jefferson I seriously doubt that we'd miss the playoffs.

How McLemore is basically hendo? Hendo shot no where near as well as McLemore in college.
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Post#1009 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:08 pm

McLemore's rookie season won't be anything better than what Hendo is giving us right now. I'm sure that McLemore would become a more superior player than Hendo within 3 years but his 1st season won't be anything special, probably 12 points per game.
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Post#1010 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:28 pm

Saw Steph Curry play at Davidson and I like McLemore's stroke better.
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Post#1011 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:37 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Saw Steph Curry play at Davidson and I like McLemore's stroke better.

McLemore pales in comparison to Steph Curry as a scorer. He's a better athlete though.
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Post#1012 » by BeesWax » Wed Feb 6, 2013 5:54 pm

I would not mind McLemore or Bazz. Either would be a good pick at that spot. McLemore is a better scorer than Steph was at this point but I do not think he is a better shooter. Steph was still working on his handles when he was 19 and was slight and had trouble in the lane. McLemore is a better finisher but does not have the same quality stroke.

With the second pick I really don't want Bennett. I think he is going to be a bust. I would prefer MCW as I think he would help Walker. I think Walkers game improves when he can spend some time off ball like he does with Sessions. This gives us a bigger PG who can guard 2s and us not give up so much size like we do now.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1013 » by penquin11 » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:00 pm

I really can't see Ben McLemore only averaging 12ppg... He has a FG% of 50% and is shooting 45% from 3. He is averaging 16.4pts on 5.5-10.8 FGs a game, Ben Gordon takes the same amount of shots in just 22 minutes of playing time and is scoring 13ppg. Heck MKG is taking 3-8 FG's a game and scoring 9ppg; and he doesn't shoot 3's.... I could see McLemore averaging 14ppg on the low side and 18ppg on the high-side during his rookie year...

Also just a fun list of players who are considered 3pt threats who McLemore has shot better than while in college:

James Harden
Damian Lillard
Ray Allen (freshman & Sophmore year stats)
Ben Gordon
Anthony Morrow
Paul George
Klay Thompson
Stephen Curry
Danny Green
CP3 (CP3 had a better 3pt%)
Carmelo Anthony
Dwayne Wade (Barely)
Deron Williams
and the list goes on..
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Post#1014 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:02 pm

jdm3 wrote:McLemore is a better scorer than Steph was at this point


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Post#1015 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:10 pm

jdm3 wrote: I would prefer MCW as I think he would help Walker. I think Walkers game improves when he can spend some time off ball like he does with Sessions. This gives us a bigger PG who can guard 2s and us not give up so much size like we do now.


I would love McLemore and MCW (for reasons u stated). Kemba, MCW, McLemore, Taylor and MKG is a great group to build around. The front court would need to be addressed though but I like Jefferson more than any of the bigmen prospects in this draft. Plus bigs take a longer time to develop in the NBA so I'd rather fill PF and C with trades and free agency. I'd rather add bigs who are ready to hold their own and dominate the NBA right now.

I'm not interested in Noel, Len, Zeller etc. I'm not interested in a project especially with Big Al out there and a wing like McLemore available who is better than any free agent wing.
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Post#1016 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:15 pm

Are any of you aware that Michael Carter-Williams is shooting just under 36% from the field this year?

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Those type of numbers doesn't exactly get better for a guard when they translate to the NBA.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1017 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:18 pm

catch20two wrote:Are any of you aware that Michael Carter-Williams is shooting just under 36% from the field this year?

:dontknow:


I think the angle you have to view him is through the lens of the current roster and the central bedrock, Kemba. Kemba is a scorer but MCW adds playmaking ability lacking on this roster. He's the best playmaker in the draft. But because if his poor shooting, hopefully he falls within range of the POR pick or close enough where we can trade up. He not only compliments Kemba with his team play but he adds length and defense. I would not be interested in MCW as a starter but I think he's a perfect fit for the roster. McLemore with starter minutes should average 16-20 PPG.
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Post#1018 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:22 pm

penquin11 wrote:I really can't see Ben McLemore only averaging 12ppg... He has a FG% of 50% and is shooting 45% from 3. He is averaging 16.4pts on 5.5-10.8 FGs a game, Ben Gordon takes the same amount of shots in just 22 minutes of playing time and is scoring 13ppg. Heck MKG is taking 3-8 FG's a game and scoring 9ppg; and he doesn't shoot 3's.... I could see McLemore averaging 14ppg on the low side and 18ppg on the high-side during his rookie year...

Also just a fun list of players who are considered 3pt threats who McLemore has shot better than while in college:

James Harden
Damian Lillard
Ray Allen (freshman & Sophmore year stats)
Ben Gordon
Anthony Morrow
Paul George
Klay Thompson
Stephen Curry
Danny Green
CP3 (CP3 had a better 3pt%)
Carmelo Anthony
Dwayne Wade (Barely)
Deron Williams
and the list goes on..


Like I said, I've watched Curry live at Davidson College (for all you non-Charlotteans, Davidson College is located just north of Charlotte). I was blown away by Curry's quick trigger and perfect follow through. But I like Mclemore's overall stroke better and I also saw Ray Allen in college because I was born and raised in CT and UConn hoops is all we have there. The only reason why McLemore is not a consensus #1 on draft boards is because a 2-guard has not gone 1 overall in nearly 40 years. That should change in 2013.

As for Curry, you also have to remember that scouts were worried about his height and if he could get off his shot against bigger defenders. McLemore has the quick trigger, the form, the leaping ability, the movement off the ball and the length Curry doesn't have.
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Post#1019 » by catch20two » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:23 pm

I like MCW and all but he's basically a project guard like Tony Wroten before him.
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Post#1020 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:25 pm

I'd agree that MCW is a project if he's expected to contribute like a starter. But I feel like he's the perfect fit for a complimentary versatile backcourt player for our rebuild.
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