Around the NBA part 4

[Thugger HBC]

I gotta agree with Thugger here.

Anyone remember Sonics-Bulls finals where Karl was reluctant to put Payton on Jordan, but when he did Jordan had some of the worst playoff performances of his career.

DPOY Payton...Karl wait til he's almost swept before common sense kicked.

Karl is a playoff choke artist....his record shows it.

[fdr2012]

Will you officially say that Karl is an underachiever, that is what I'm looking for, and that was my point from the start.

You dont get praise for taking a team to the finals and damn near get swept.

Then choking to an 8th seed is unheard of.

Karl is what his playoff record is.... .439 perennial loser, with all-star HOF talent mind you.

I don't know. Haven't given it as much thought as you obviously did. I don't think the Sonics team that went to the finals underachieved. I don't think any team that goes to the finals can be said to underachieve. In other years - yes, but never as badly as D'antoni did with the Knicks or the Lakers right now.

In any case, I don't want to have a general Geroge Karl debate. He is a good X/Os guy and that's as far as I'll go (which was my entire point).

[Thugger HBC]

Will you officially say that Karl is an underachiever, that is what I'm looking for, and that was my point from the start.

You dont get praise for taking a team to the finals and damn near get swept.

Then choking to an 8th seed is unheard of.

Karl is what his playoff record is.... .439 perennial loser, with all-star HOF talent mind you.

I don't know. Haven't given it as much thought as you obviously did. I don't think the Sonics team that went to the finals underachieved. I don't think any team that goes to the finals can be said to underachieve. In other years - yes, but never as badly as D'antoni did with the Knicks or the Lakers right now.

In any case, I don't want to have a general Geroge Karl debate. He is a good X/Os guy and that's as far as I'll go (which was my entire point).

He's a .439 coach in the playoffs...trash

Don Nelson D'antoni George Karl...regular season geniuses....playoff doo-doo.

[JustaKnickFan]

The sad thing is, Woodson has a reputation for being one of the playoff doo-doo coaches :/

[Thugger HBC]

The sad thing is, Woodson has a reputation for being one of the playoff doo-doo coaches :/

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

[JustaKnickFan]

The sad thing is, Woodson has a reputation for being one of the playoff doo-doo coaches :/

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

[Thugger HBC]

The sad thing is, Woodson has a reputation for being one of the playoff doo-doo coaches :/

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

How exactly do you game plan for LeBron?

[JustaKnickFan]

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

How exactly do you game plan for LeBron?

I'm not a basketball coach, but obviously other guys like Frank Vogel Doc Rivers and SVG did as they were able to beat Lebron while Woodson I believe is 1-8 against him, with that one win being almost meaningless.

[AllanHoustonFan]

The sad thing is, Woodson has a reputation for being one of the playoff doo-doo coaches :/

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

No one has figured that out.

[JustaKnickFan]

Can he get 20+ years like Karl and a couple of all-stars and hof talent?

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

No one has figured that out.

Orlando must have done something right when they swept his team in the ECF awhile back while Woodson's team just got swept by Lebron's.

[Rasho Brezec]

How exactly do you game plan for LeBron?

[GONYK]

He's not as bad as Karl, but his inability to game plan for Lebron in the playoffs is pretty concerning.

No one has figured that out.

Orlando must have done something right when they swept his team in the ECF awhile back while Woodson's team just got swept by Lebron's.

Let's see what Orlando had that we didn't last year:

Dwight Howard
A bench
Someone to run the offense
Perimeter defenders

[Thugger HBC]

Woodson got swept by LeBron?

[AllanHoustonFan]

Orlando must have done something right when they swept his team in the ECF awhile back while Woodson's team just got swept by Lebron's.

Yeah, it's called Dwight Howard. No one can stop him now though.

[Thugger HBC]

Dwight in 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>LeBron that's why they won.

[GONYK]

Dwight in 2009 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>LeBron that's why they won.

I blame Woodson for not making a gameplan that makes Tyson better than 2009 Dwight

[21shumpshumpst]

No one has figured that out.

Orlando must have done something right when they swept his team in the ECF awhile back while Woodson's team just got swept by Lebron's.

Let's see what Orlando had that we didn't last year:

Dwight Howard
A bench
Someone to run the offense
Perimeter defenders

You forgot a shooting guard who could make a shot.

[Thugger HBC]

I'm stilll waiting for when Woodson JUST got swept by LeBron.

[GONYK]

I'm stilll waiting for when Woodson JUST got swept by LeBron.

I'm still waiting for when Orlando swept Lebron in the ECF

[Thugger HBC]

I'm stilll waiting for when Woodson JUST got swept by LeBron.

I'm still waiting for when Orlando swept Lebron in the ECF

Welp, time to grab some popcorn and kiss the kids, we'll be here a while.