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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#41 » by hotrod » Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:44 pm

I like the deal. Hump would be a double-double machine here.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#42 » by BlackOutBuzz » Sat Feb 9, 2013 2:51 pm

Heh, so that makes 2 Cho-proposed trades that were originally posted on RGM.

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You guys have really soured on Brooks huh? My first reaction is "Hell yes," but if you're willing to just give him away like that it makes me a little apprehensive :lol:

I'd still probably do it though, cheap prospect vs. an expiring, not gonna complain either way.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#43 » by Keith Van Horn » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:01 pm

Marshon isn't bad, but I can't see him fitting into our long term plans. He's a shoot first type player and needs to sorely work on his defense, but he's very capable of slashing and breaking down defenses. He's had the same problem as Hump this year, Avery Johnson and PJ Carlesimo have begun to ruin them and their confidence by cutting their minutes significantly.

I think a lot of Nets fans would like to see Gordon>Brooks but most likely not at the expense of bringing back Warrick... I just kinda threw that out there. I don't know if we really need another PF since we have Evans and Teletovic (who will see more time, rightfully so, after and IF Hump is traded).
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#44 » by DY_nasty » Sat Feb 9, 2013 3:36 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:agree with Marvel. sure he's an upgrade, but it seems like another typical bobcats trade. just another player who lacks skills but compensates with hustle and effort. meh

If rebounding isn't a skill, then why can't Biyombo do it?
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#45 » by KembaWalker » Sat Feb 9, 2013 4:03 pm

Bismack gets 10 boards per 36. not bad at all. if we had competent defense that could generate rebound opportunities or not make him come over for blocking help on every drive he could probably get a lot more

Kris Humphries at age 20 was a worse rebounder than Biyombo
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#46 » by James Gatz » Sat Feb 9, 2013 4:10 pm

A Humphries-Gordon straight up swap does not interest me. We are going to suck either way and quite frankly the thought of a Humphries-Biyombo front court is frightening. There would be football teams scoring more points than the Bobcats.


Have you seen our current front court? You think the Adrien Biz duo is better offensively?
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#47 » by Nanogeek » Sat Feb 9, 2013 4:28 pm

James Gatz wrote:
A Humphries-Gordon straight up swap does not interest me. We are going to suck either way and quite frankly the thought of a Humphries-Biyombo front court is frightening. There would be football teams scoring more points than the Bobcats.


Have you seen our current front court? You think the Adrien Biz duo is better offensively?


What are you on about Adrien? He's started 5 games and only played 6 mpg. Gordon can actually shoot and score - a rarity on our team. Humphries can be big and look clueless on the court. We've got several guys that can do that already - why would we want another?

If we are going to burn our Gordon chip we need something that is going to help us - not make us actually be worse than we are now.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#48 » by catch20two » Sat Feb 9, 2013 4:57 pm

Nanogeek wrote:Gordon can actually shoot and score - a rarity on our team. Humphries can be big and look clueless on the court. We've got several guys that can do that already - why would we want another?

If we are going to burn our Gordon chip we need something that is going to help us - not make us actually be worse than we are now.

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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#49 » by HornetJail » Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:11 pm

Pretty sure Kemba, Taylor, and Hendo can give us 75% of what Gordon was giving us anyway. Our interior game is giving us major problems so why not alleviate some of our problems down there? Gordon is very very very replaceable, especially if we're getting Mar$wag back in the deal.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#50 » by JMAC3 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:28 pm

Ben Gordon- 12 million

here are players who could be available and be a possible swap.

Humphries-12
Josh Smith- 13- expiring
Al Horford- 12- would cost our first rounder too, prolly still not available
Paul Pierce-16- No point
KG-11- No point
Boozer-15- might have to throw in portland pick
Granger-13- they would want too much for him
Amare-19- too much salary
Hibbert- 13- prolly off limits
Okafor-13- not interested
Nene-13- maybe for Gordon and Portland pick, but they wouldnt want Gordon
David Lee-12- off limits
Bogut-13- injury prone
Randolph-16- no point
Gasol-19- no point
Kevin Love-13- Would take Gordon and prolly both our picks, doubt minny would even do that
Eric Gordon-13- Gordon for Gordon?, would cost us our first rounder... rather just get a cheap young guard

I would say most these players except Humphries would take our first round pick coupled with Gordon to get. We may be able to get Boozer, Nene, Amare, and Okafor could be had for Gordon and the Portland pick possibly.

I think Humphries and Boozer are only ones I'm interested in.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#51 » by BigSlam » Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:32 pm

IT's not like you are limited to one for one trades though and can't make two for ones.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#52 » by JMAC3 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:41 pm

BigSlam wrote:IT's not like you are limited to one for one trades though and can't make two for ones.


I agree, but I was thinking teams would not likely want to take on Gordons big contract unless they were dealing a bad one in return. Also, I tried to avoid listing guys who are in last year of deal, because Gordon is not worth the cap space.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#53 » by JMAC3 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:55 pm

Make this trade
Amnesty Tyrus
Dont bring back Warrick
Sign Jefferson
offer QO to Mully

Front Court Rotation

Hump- Mully- Rocky
Jefferson- Biz- Haywood

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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#54 » by James Gatz » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:07 pm

What are you on about Adrien? He's started 5 games and only played 6 mpg. Gordon can actually shoot and score - a rarity on our team. Humphries can be big and look clueless on the court. We've got several guys that can do that already - why would we want another?


Hump would be a double double guy for us. And forget Adrien do you think either of Hakim or Tyrus are on the same level of Humphries. Not saying he's a great player but our bigs are just that bad.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#55 » by thruthefire » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:20 pm

Hump was a better shooter than Mullens last season, by the way, and probably still is. But he actually plays plenty around the rim unlike our guys outside of Biz, who obviously has some issues there.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#56 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:30 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Ideally..

We get both guys and add Noel or 2 guard in draft.

Kemba- Sessions
McLemore- Brooks
MKG- Taylor
Hump- Mully
Biz- Haywood

Let Diop, Reggie, Hendo, and Warrick walk away. Then sign Jefferson. That could be a dangerous team.


8-) Yes please.

I would also try to add Danny Granger. Next year is Granger's final year of his contract so his short-lived presence would not impede the development of MKG. Granger would become a valuable expiring to trade at the deadline next year if we have no playoff hopes. Humphries would also be a valuable expiring to add a more long-term asset. Sessions would be an expiring as well.

Kemba Walker/Sessions
Ben McLemore/Brooks
Danny Granger/MKG
Kris Humphries/Biyombo
Al Jefferson/Mullens

If that team makes the playoffs (oh the horror) then we lose our pick to the Bulls but still have DET pick in 2014 around pick 9 or 10 and then we still have the POR pick 2014.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#57 » by Eoghan » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:33 pm

Nanogeek wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
A Humphries-Gordon straight up swap does not interest me. We are going to suck either way and quite frankly the thought of a Humphries-Biyombo front court is frightening. There would be football teams scoring more points than the Bobcats.


Have you seen our current front court? You think the Adrien Biz duo is better offensively?


What are you on about Adrien? He's started 5 games and only played 6 mpg. Gordon can actually shoot and score - a rarity on our team. Humphries can be big and look clueless on the court. We've got several guys that can do that already - why would we want another?

If we are going to burn our Gordon chip we need something that is going to help us - not make us actually be worse than we are now.

Bwahahaha! Mike Dunlap, is that you? Are you a fan of these idiotic 4-guard line-ups we trot out there? How would this possibly make us worse? You need some basketball fundamentals books if you think that addressing our massive, gaping hole of rebounding and defense at the expense of a guy we got for Bad Porn and a 1st rd pick will make us worse. Kemba, Hendo (now with a 3 pt shot), Sessions, Taylor, and even Reggie Williams can all cover most of Gordon's production and they'll get much better looks and not have to rely on circus shots as much (Gordon's specialty) b/c defenses will actually have to guard the paint.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#58 » by thruthefire » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:42 pm

In any case, the main reason to add Hump now is that he has a much better chance of recouping his value here than Gordon does any further. At next season's trade deadline, we'll likely have a double-double player that there will be plenty of takers for.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#59 » by Nanogeek » Sat Feb 9, 2013 6:56 pm

BrotherDave wrote:Bwahahaha! Mike Dunlap, is that you? Are you a fan of these idiotic 4-guard line-ups we trot out there? How would this possibly make us worse? You need some basketball fundamentals books if you think that addressing our massive, gaping hole of rebounding and defense at the expense of a guy we got for Bad Porn and a 1st rd pick will make us worse. Kemba, Hendo (now with a 3 pt shot), Sessions, Taylor, and even Reggie Williams can all cover most of Gordon's production and they'll get much better looks and not have to rely on circus shots as much (Gordon's specialty) b/c defenses will actually have to guard the paint.


You know why the Nets can trade Humphries? Because he can't break past Reggie Evans and Andray Blatche in the depth chart. Evans has more toes than points scored in his career. And Blatche is such an incredible player the Wizards amnestied him... the WIZARDS!! Being amnestied by the Wizards is like not making the cut in the spelling bee contest where the other contestants are zoo animals. And Humphries is behind that crew in the Nets line up.

Yes we need better front court players but to tie up 12 million per year in a guy that can't push aside Reggie Evans and Blatche? You've got to be kidding me.
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Re: Trade Rumor: Gordon for Humphries 

Post#60 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:13 pm

Nanogeek wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Bwahahaha! Mike Dunlap, is that you? Are you a fan of these idiotic 4-guard line-ups we trot out there? How would this possibly make us worse? You need some basketball fundamentals books if you think that addressing our massive, gaping hole of rebounding and defense at the expense of a guy we got for Bad Porn and a 1st rd pick will make us worse. Kemba, Hendo (now with a 3 pt shot), Sessions, Taylor, and even Reggie Williams can all cover most of Gordon's production and they'll get much better looks and not have to rely on circus shots as much (Gordon's specialty) b/c defenses will actually have to guard the paint.


You know why the Nets can trade Humphries? Because he can't break past Reggie Evans and Andray Blatche in the depth chart. Evans has more toes than points scored in his career. And Blatche is such an incredible player the Wizards amnestied him... the WIZARDS!! Being amnestied by the Wizards is like not making the cut in the spelling bee contest where the other contestants are zoo animals. And Humphries is behind that crew in the Nets line up.

Yes we need better front court players but to tie up 12 million per year in a guy that can't push aside Reggie Evans and Blatche? You've got to be kidding me.



Humphries contract ends when Gordons done, so that in itself is a wash. He would also help this team immensely as far as rebounding goes, and would fit a need unlike Gordon.

Not sure how someone couldn't like this deal.
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