Danny Granger, Eric Gordon, Evan Turner

Post #1 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:31 pm

Does any of them interest you? All three are being mentioned in rumors.

Hawk4Playoffs · Post #2 » by **Hawk4Playoffs** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:34 pm

yes, yes and maybe

GrimeyKidd · Post #3 » by **GrimeyKidd** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:36 pm

Anything without trading josh. He proved that he can do his part but Al has to do his cohesively

Hawk4Playoffs · Post #4 » by **Hawk4Playoffs** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:44 pm

GrimeyKidd wrote:Anything without trading josh. He proved that he can do his part but Al has to do his cohesively

so do you want to give josh the max in the offseason?

GrimeyKidd · Post #5 » by **GrimeyKidd** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 7:48 pm

Hawk4Playoffs wrote:
GrimeyKidd wrote:Anything without trading josh. He proved that he can do his part but Al has to do his cohesively

so do you want to give josh the max in the offseason?

Josh is most likely gonna mellow down and understand what the Mr.Ferry wants do with the team.

Hawk4Playoffs · Post #6 » by **Hawk4Playoffs** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 8:09 pm

GrimeyKidd wrote:
Hawk4Playoffs wrote:
GrimeyKidd wrote:Anything without trading josh. He proved that he can do his part but Al has to do his cohesively

so do you want to give josh the max in the offseason?

Josh is most likely gonna mellow down and understand what the Mr.Ferry wants do with the team.

You didn't answer the question. Josh will walk away and get a max from somebody else if it isn't Atlanta. If we aren't planning to give him the max, we should trade him and get something in return.

I would offer him a 5 year $75 million contract right now and if he declines I would trade him.

Post #7 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 9:00 pm

Gordon maybe. Turner, probably.

Granger is overpaid. Solid player, btu not worth the money.

I just want a tough, athletic wing player to play good defense and hit open threes.

Think Bruce Bowen, Tayshaun (in his younger days), Rick Fox, Scottie Pippen, Shawn Marion (in his younger days).

All great teams have that one player who guards like crazy and scores in transition or when open.

Basically, Josh without the jump shooting or the ego.

Post #8 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 10:14 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Gordon maybe. Turner, probably.

Granger is overpaid. Solid player, btu not worth the money.

I just want a tough, athletic wing player to play good defense and hit open threes.

Think Bruce Bowen, Tayshaun (in his younger days), Rick Fox, Scottie Pippen, Shawn Marion (in his younger days).

All great teams have that one player who guards like crazy and scores in transition or when open.

Basically, Josh without the jump shooting or the ego.

Do you not think Gordon is overpaid? Granger only has one year left on his contract at 14 million.

Post #9 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 10:31 pm

I do think Gordon is overpaid. That and his injury history give me pause.

I didn't realize that about Granger.

I wish we had traded for Gay. He has only one more year guaranteed in his deal.
(He's also avg 24 ppg since he was traded.)

Granger is still a maybe. Wouldn't be against it. Just don't think he fits long term into our plans.

I look at San Antonio with their depth and movng parts. I want that so bad, HMFFL!

So maybe we trade for Granger, then re-sign him to a modest deal if we convince him to play a more free flowing brand of offense.

The thing about SF, is that so many players fall into this position and are similar in production. The difference between Marvin Williams, Evan Turner and Rudy Gay is negligible. It would be unwise to drop too much money into the position.

Post #10 » by **ATL Boy** » Sat Feb 9, 2013 10:37 pm

Hawk4Playoffs wrote:yes, yes and maybe

D21 · Post #11 » by **D21** » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:21 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I wish we had traded for Gay. He has only one more year guaranteed in his deal.
(He's also avg 24 ppg since he was traded.)

Trade Josh to TOR and he would certainly score 24ppg.
IMO, Granger and Gordon are a bit overpaid, but I would think abut getting them, depending on the way we get them.

We also have to keep in mind that if we can add one or two good player before doing anything with Josh, and keeping less than the Max under the Tax threshold, he would certainly think twice before leaving the team fro nothing, because he would be more forced to take less, but still would see a better team than now.
If he has to choose between 15M/yr + contender and 20M and loosing, he could very well choose 15M if he really wants to win. It's like choosing between 20M and 1M. Now, lots of player already preferred more millions and loosing...

Post #12 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:17 am

D21 wrote:Trade Josh to TOR and he would certainly score 24ppg.

...Why can't Josh just avg 20 ppg in ATL?

He is the best player and #1 option. He takes more shots than any other Hawk. With Lou down, noone else on our team can create their own shot.

tcorbin · Post #13 » by **tcorbin** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:39 am

No, no, and no

Danny Granger is good, but overpaid

Eric Gordon is okay, but has major health concerns, and i think he will be out of the league in 3 years like Brandon Roy

and a big NO to Evan Turner, he has Marvin Williams written all over him. Sixers fans complain that he is not aggressive enough, that sounds way too familiar, like Marvin all over again

i would rather keep Josh or the cap space he brings if walks away.

Post #14 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:46 pm

FlightBrothers wrote:From Chad Ford Chat Wrap (2/13/13)

Anthony (Chicago)

Who's front runner for Josh Smith?

Chad Ford (1:07 PM)

That is the question. Always has been. The Hawks have been interested in moving him for the past 2 seasons, but have never gotten a strong offer for him. Plenty of teams are interested including the Nets, Spurs and Lakers ... but the Hawks want value in return and none of those teams are willing to part with core players to get him. I think the 76ers might make some sense ...

Malik (Philly)

Chad...I hope all is well...what's your opinion of Evan Turner to date, does he have any trade value and if so what could the Sixers get back for him?

Chad Ford (1:09 PM)

I think Turner is one player who is definitely available. Ditto for Spencer Hawes. That package should be able to get them a quality player. They seem to be to be a natural fit for Josh Smith ... however they face the same dilemma everyone does with Smith. He's an unrestricted free agent this summer. He wants A LOT of money. No one wants to trade valuable assets for a guy who could be a two to three month rental.

gurpilo · Post #15 » by **gurpilo** » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:57 pm

I don't understand the hate on Evan Turner, the guy is young, still improving, rebounds extremely well for his position, good passing abilities, defends well, has size, can play SG and SF... it's true he is still having issues with shooting percentages but is showing great improvements at all categories. I would absolutely love to have him here and will be a better fit than Smith. My concern would be that he commands too much handling the ball taking it out of Jeff's hand but he is a great player. I would do a trade for him and Young or Hawes without any doubt.

About Gordon and Granger I don't have it clear, they are injury prone and althought they are both great players the injuries really scare me, specially on Gordon of course. It would be a yes for Granger and no for Gordon I guess.