The Mike Dunlap Thread

[thruthefire]

Im fine with 4 guard lineup. Send a message upstairs that it doesnt make sense to have all 90 percent of your scoring tied up in 2 positions. If youre mad about not winning games then you should be mad at Cho for giving you this roster to root for.

Dunlap was hired to turn the other cheek towards the foolishness that happens upstairs. I seriously doubt that he's trying to send a message. He just has a bizarre way of managing games that obviously don't work.

Dunlap went small ball with us five minutes away from being .500 earlier in the season. I agree, it has absolutely nothing to do with "sending a message."

[Liver_Pooty]

Mkg just got out of the hospital with a brain injury like 4 days ago

Ooh, good point. I forgot that it was particularly dangerous to play in 4th quarters with a brain injury. The first 3 quarters though, no problem.

Lol.

[Nanogeek]

I'll bet we're scoring more now than last year

Yeah but that's like saying the dog is crapping in the kitchen (but nearer the backdoor) instead of the living room.

[KembaWalker]

Mkg just got out of the hospital with a brain injury like 4 days ago

Ooh, good point. I forgot that it was particularly dangerous to play in 4th quarters with a brain injury. The first 3 quarters though, no problem.

I was trying to sugarcoat it but if you wanna get real we can...

The truth is mkg is a horrible basketball player right now even for our roster.

If he drives he turns it over or gets blocked, if he shoots its always a brick. His defense is decent but not so amazing that hes worth playing when his half court offense is such a team killer. Especially in the 4rh quartee where games grind down to all halfcourt and defense picks up

He sucks as much if not moreso than dunlap

[MasterIchiro]

Tell us how you really feel.

[JMAC3]

Get this scrub out of here.

If he isnt going to be our coach of the future, then why have him coach. So we can suck and continue to get high picks?

Why not bring in a proven offensive minded coach, or a young and upcoming coach. Just see what the team looks like with somebody else.

Do it now and let the new coach have the team after the all star break.

SVG
Alvin Gentry
Mike Brown
Sam Cassell

Somebody who can create an offense where we dont just run at the basket and hope to get fouled, when we get no respect from refs....

[Elden Payton]

I don't think a high quality coach is going to come here at this present time despite our obvious improvement from our "core" this season from last.

If you had told me that Kemba and Mullens would show such rapid improvement and Hendo and Biz such "subtle" improvement(thanks BCP) at the start of the season I would have been ecstatic, we have to look at this horrendous trainwreck of a season in context with last season...let that sink in...a rookie HC has had a much better season than Paul **** Silas last year.

I won't defend Dunlap simply because there is no way I can.

SVG-Need more talent plus big money.
Brown (not Larry)-Redemption coach (would sign here imo), team+defense first, 2004 Pistons defense Head Assistant Coach, perfect for our team imo.
Gentry-Extremely underrated imo.
2014

Everyone else...

We may have to go the redemption coach route halfway through 2013-2014.

[KembaWalker]

The only person whos responsible for mkg not playing is mkg. Whatever is wrong with him..doesnt really matter hes just horrible right now. Remember him calling Cal saying hes afraid hes not good enough? Its a cute story when hes out hustling everyone in the first month of the season. Now that hes already too worn out and broken down to hustle the truth comes out... He was right

[countryboi]

with the amount of complaining you guys do you would think the bobcats were a good team....did everyone forget about the TANK?

[penquin11]

There is tanking, and then there is getting your ass handed to you year in and year out. This isn't tanking, tanking- or losing- can still be entertaining, it can still be valuable experience to your young players. Tanking would be us calling plays to give MKG easy dunks, alley-oops, and other such plays that force him to score and give him confidence in his abilities. Tanking would be watching our team losing but still being entertaining. I want to see Biyombo slam the hell out of every ball with all the might he can, I don't care if he flubs as long as he goes for it- because if by some miracle he manages to learn how to dunk over defenders it would be great and would give me something that I would want to watch. I would like to see us run a fast paced- electric offense that capitalizes on our young players athleticism- we aren't defending anyways so why not actually utilize Biyombo's+MKGs+Kembas ability to out race defenders down the court. Also this applies to the draft, if we are going to tank, why not grab a raw super athlete who has an NBA ready body but still has the necessary skills and potential to grow (Drummond- who if you remember, was who I wanted us to draft)- who cares if he won't be great out of the gate thats the point isn't it, that we need to develop players to be great, but we need to draft guys who have potential first.

[countryboi]

There is tanking, and then there is getting your ass handed to you year in and year out. This isn't tanking, tanking- or losing- can still be entertaining, it can still be valuable experience to your young players. Tanking would be us calling plays to give MKG easy dunks, alley-oops, and other such plays that force him to score and give him confidence in his abilities. Tanking would be watching our team losing but still being entertaining. I want to see Biyombo slam the hell out of every ball with all the might he can, I don't care if he flubs as long as he goes for it- because if by some miracle he manages to learn how to dunk over defenders it would be great and would give me something that I would want to watch. I would like to see us run a fast paced- electric offense that capitalizes on our young players athleticism- we aren't defending anyways so why not actually utilize Biyombo's+MKGs+Kembas ability to out race defenders down the court. Also this applies to the draft, if we are going to tank, why not grab a raw super athlete who has an NBA ready body but still has the necessary skills and potential to grow (Drummond- who if you remember, was who I wanted us to draft)- who cares if he won't be great out of the gate thats the point isn't it, that we need to develop players to be great, but we need to draft guys who have potential first.

its a very thin line between the tank and just being awful....we are skating that line and are just not going to be watchable everynight its just not possible we are awful

[Kembastockton]

Do you guys ever get tired of crying? I declare. You guys whine more than my eight year old daughter. We are a bad team. We don't have a true franchise player. We have a roster made up of mostly kids, and the vets are over the hill. It may take a while for this team to get anywhere. I don't think the plan was ever to be good before 2015, and that's if we had gotten Captain Unibrow. So why are you guys suprised when we get blown out? Even the good teams get blown out every once and a while.

[SWedd523]

Tell 'em Biyombo!

[fatlever]

and i get that everyone wants to see MKG get more minutes, but he is struggling right now. dunlap knows this. MKG is shooting 17% for his past 5 games and well in the 30s since december. until MKG gets out of this slump, its not really fair to criticize dunlap for cutting his minutes. perhaps, dunlap and MKG have talked about this and dunlap is purposely keeping his minutes down while MKG works through the rookie-wall.

there are plenty of reasons to get on dunlap's case, but not playing MKG a ton of minutes recently is not one i can agree with.

i'd rather hear people complain about ben gordon getting minutes when he is playing like crap. let reggie get some of those minutes.

[penquin11]

Do you guys ever get tired of crying? I declare. You guys whine more than my eight year old daughter. We are a bad team. We don't have a true franchise player. We have a roster made up of mostly kids, and the vets are over the hill. It may take a while for this team to get anywhere. I don't think the plan was ever to be good before 2015, and that's if we had gotten Captain Unibrow. So why are you guys suprised when we get blown out? Even the good teams get blown out every once and a while.

The plan for any aspiring franchise is to elevate themselves as fast as possible to a championship level team. Now I think it is more than fair to say that we didn't expect to be good until 2015, but if the plan trully is to suck until 2015- then we have a problem. Also I'm surprised that we get blown out night in and night out because I believe our current roster isn't performing to its best ability. We are terrible, thats true. But lets be real here, there is no reason why we should lose by 20 to the Raptors (and fail to score 80 points), there is no reason why we should get absolutely blown out by the Cavs. Im not so disappointed in our losing, but how we are doing it. I get it, even the best teams get blown out occasionally, and we really haven't been blown out super often this season (compared to last season), but I hate it that since Jan 11th we have only reached the 100 point mark in 2 games, and in 8 of the 18 games we have played we have failed to hit 90. In contrast, during that same 18 game stretch 11 of our opponents have scored 100 or more points on us. Also between December 3rd and December 26th, every game we played our opponents scored over 100 on us, 6 of those games featured teams scoring at least 110 on us. We are the worst team in the league, but is there ever really an excuse for allowing a team to beat you by 15 or more? At what point can we say that the Bobcats play is unacceptably bad? As a fan I know its a privileged to get to watch the team, to get to see the great athletes in the NBA, but I don't think it is to much to want to be entertained and to be disappointed when you aren't given that the NBA's sole purpose is to entertain. The past 2 years have been especially tough to watch, but moreover its been rough to follow the franchise for basically the past decade.

[James Gatz]

Penquin I want to read what your posting but whenever I see that wall of text I immediately skip right past it. Try breaking it up into paragraphs.

[ccbballin]

Reading these posts and watching this team over the years reminds me of the movie Major League. Wheres Vaughn and Willie Mays Hayes.

[JMAC3]

I am not saying we should be winning all these games, but what has Dunlap done to prove he deserves to keep his job??? I wish someone would pay me half a million dollars to not do a good job and be fine with it.

I understand being patient and what not, but do you really want to just not care for two years....

Dunlap has this team playing ugly, selfish, and inconsistent basketball. He is not really developing our young guys by any means in my mind. He plays Sessions 30 minutes a night, Runs the offense through Gordon like he is Kobe, and plays the number 2 pick 15 minutes a night if we are lucky.

I think Alvin Gentry would be great for us. He has had success with teams that like to run and has done great with good point guards. We have a similar makeup in ways.

Kemba is our nash
Hendo is our J-Rich
MKG is our Grant Hill
Mullens is our Chandler Frye
Jeff Taylor is our Jared Dudley
Sessions is our Barbosa
Gordon is our Dragic
biz is our Robin Lopez

but we have no Amare. but still i think Gentry could make us fun to watch and better offensively. what do we have to lose defensively.

[Nanogeek]

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[penquin11]

Penquin I want to read what your posting but whenever I see that wall of text I immediately skip right past it. Try breaking it up into paragraphs.

Its my way of limiting the number of people that can criticize me